Henry now has my attention. The cool thing is they added the gate to their existing tube-loading design, so you can still unload through the muzzle end. Doesn't seem to be a cost penalty, either.
Henry Side Gate Carbine
Henry Side Gate Carbine
I let a Marlin in38-55 get away a while back, so of the caliber offerings the 38-55 is the one that I'm interested in alsoThe 38-55 has my attention.
Lever guns look better with a loading gate.I dont see the problem with not having a loading gate. It makes zero difference to me. Henry has possibly the highest quality lever gun on the market with or without a loading gate. Maybe someone can explain why its so tremendous to have a loading gate?
I dont see the problem with not having a loading gate. It makes zero difference to me. Henry has possibly the highest quality lever gun on the market with or without a loading gate. Maybe someone can explain why its so tremendous to have a loading gate?
In a hunting situation if you have to load or reload, much less movement involved in using a gate over a plunger.I dont see the problem with not having a loading gate. It makes zero difference to me. Henry has possibly the highest quality lever gun on the market with or without a loading gate. Maybe someone can explain why its so tremendous to have a loading gate?
Lot of people use the larger caliber lever guns for bear hunting, I don't hunt any more, but any thing I can't reload quickly precludes it from being an option.What would be an example of a situation where you would have to load or reload in a hurried or silent manner?
Not asking sarcastically either.
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Hell, next thing ya know...they will make a threaded barrel model.
Nuthin is sacred.
I agree and just to add a side note i think a loading gate has almost zero benefit. Loading one in the empty chamber is also quite and speedy.Ummmm. If ya shoot a lever dry in a hunt yer either on an ass ton of animals or need to go home and practice one shot kills. Most likly the latter, just saying......
Loading one in the empty chamber is fast if you need 6 shots to kill the animal. If the bear is 30 yards away and decides to charge after 4 shots the bear is eating you face anyway.Lot of people use the larger caliber lever guns for bear hunting, I don't hunt any more, but any thing I can't reload quickly precludes it from being an option.
If you drop that loading tube in the mud , or it rolls off the bed of the truck in the dark and gets stepped on your rifles useless. And my rifle of choice all the years I hunted was my marlin in 45-70,
If you perfer the look ill give you that but other than that i see no benefit.Lever guns look better with a loading gate.
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If you've.fired a.couple of snap shots at a bear one that missed completely and one a grazing shot thats just managed to piss the bear off, and you want to top off before taking another run at the bear that loading gate is pretty handy.Loading one in the empty chamber is fast if you need 6 shots to kill the animal. If the bear is 30 yards away and decides to charge after 4 shots the bear is eating you face anyway.
They already do... it's a .22.Hell, next thing ya know...they will make a threaded barrel model.
Nuthin is sacred.
I dont see the problem with not having a loading gate. It makes zero difference to me. Henry has possibly the highest quality lever gun on the market with or without a loading gate. Maybe someone can explain why its so tremendous to have a loading gate?
Im not hating but when i see comments like "now i would buy a Henry because it has a loading gate", why? Its a wonderful gun without it, there is litte to no benefit in having the gate. So people hating on guns without loading gates are either way to picky or maybe they are just so much smarter than me and im soooo stupid to own a henry without one. Its like glock guys talking about how much better a glock is than anything else with zero evidence. Its a really wierd thing. Its more fun to reload?You guys hating on loading gates sound like the people who demand a reason a rifle needs a detachable magazine.
Because 'Merica, that's why.
It's aesthetically more pleasing with one and more fun throwing cartridges in them than unscrewing a tube and dropping rounds in it like you're setting up to play Kerplunk.
why? Its a wonderful gun without it, there is litte to no benefit in having the gate.
Been done.
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I like the gate. I could deal with it not being there. Just a matter of personal preference.
EDIT: No, not mine! Pic stole from Internet
Half apart? Some people just look for a reason to complain. You twist out a tube and drop in ammo and twist it back. Im not anti gate i like all guns including my 336c in 35rem.Unless you want your lever gun to have a loading gate. Then there is a huge benefit to it.
I don't want a lever gun that doesn't have a gate. Therefore I felt no pull to buy a Henry. I saw them in stores and said "eh, whatever". I still don't think they look that good.
Plus, there's a nice benefit where you don't have to take your gun half apart to load it.
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Fore end has a hard point for cowbell.Needs more tactical.
why? Its a wonderful gun without it, there is litte to no benefit in having the gate
I've carried a rifle and never needed this function. If you shoot all of the ammo out of the mag, you can shoot one load one on an empty tube mag. If for some reason you need to.But there is. The gate gives me the ability to keep the magazine topped off with the shoot one/load one drill without taking the rifle out of battery or even dismounting it from my shoulder. I know that it's not something that I'd ever likely need, but I like having the option just the same.
It hearkens back to a day when the 1873 Winchester was a general purpose rifle that a man could not only use to stock his larder, but may also be called on to defend hearth and home. In that role, keeping a full compliment of ammunition on tap was an important consideration.
I've carried a rifle and never needed this function.
If you shoot all of the ammo out of the mag, you can shoot one load one on an empty tube mag.
I am fine with them doing this but look how sloppy it is. Compare the way that looks to a Marlin .. it's crooked and leaves just that tiny bit of metal between the port. I wish Henry well and I'm not a tube loader purist .. but they can do better than this hack job.