Don’t think so. Paying women to have babies and the subsequent abuse of welfare laws is more like it.
Im sure that has a role as well.
Don’t think so. Paying women to have babies and the subsequent abuse of welfare laws is more like it.
Something changed on or around 1984, which would also coincide with entering a 3rd turning (decline) cycle that gave rise to the concept of "latch key kid" and required mom to get a job. I remember when my mother went from stay at home to having to get outside work simply because of finances and it certainly wasn't to keep up with anyone but basic needs.I think the whole "keeping up with the Joneses" is a marker of the down fall of society. Because it took the mother out of the home destabilizing the family nucleus.
LOL. I’m not bragging but I assure you any high school course is not going to scare me. I have degrees and passed 5 state licensing test only 15% or less pass. Save your time. I’ll put my credentials against yours anytime.Don't project your work ethic on others who are working diligently to create significant and rigorous content for online delivery. Tell you what, I have a course, two sections, you can give a try in the Fall.
Something changed on or around 1984, which would also coincide with entering a 3rd turning (decline) cycle that gave rise to the concept of "latch key kid" and required mom to get a job. I remember when my mother went from stay at home to having to get outside work simply because of finances and it certainly wasn't to keep up with anyone but basic needs.
Yup, that would have been the start of the post WW2, 1st turning high....I would say the original keeping up with the joneses in the 50's started everything down a path leading to it. When people start buying everything it drives the prices and demand up.
The football coach suppliment is by far the highest and most do not teach but two or three classes. Some teach zero classes. Supplements are given by school and district. Some get $15,000, some get $10,000. In South Carolina football is more important than education. A coach at Dutch Fork in SC makes around $110,000 counting his NC retirement. He isn’t even teaching a single class. Just win baby.Coaches make that choice they don't have to do it. So while you bring up the coaching supplement how much does someone get paid to be a head football or Basketball coach?
Yup, that would have been the start of the post WW2, 1st turning high....
I think "latch key kids" started way before 1984. I was a "latch key kid" in the mid '60's.Something changed on or around 1984, which would also coincide with entering a 3rd turning (decline) cycle that gave rise to the concept of "latch key kid" and required mom to get a job. I remember when my mother went from stay at home to having to get outside work simply because of finances and it certainly wasn't to keep up with anyone but basic needs.
The football coach suppliment is by far the highest and most do not teach but two or three classes. Some teach zero classes. Supplements are given by school and district. Some get $15,000, some get $10,000. In South Carolina football is more important than education. A coach at Dutch Fork in SC makes around $110,000 counting his NC retirement. He isn’t even teaching a single class. Just win baby.
Sorry -No not really-- I am not a socialist. I can take care of myself. I don't need any "young" people to help me in the future. ESPECIALLY young people of today! We already see what has happened with the socialist's trainng in our schools now a days! Especially ones that have been trained to be socialist and communist, spread the wealth type liberals! Its not my responsibility to educate your damn kids. Take the tax break you get "that I dont get" and use it to educate your own kids. If you want them to be communist then by all means use your money and not my tax dollars.I'm going to disagree with you. Everybody benefits from having the children educated. Someday you'll be old and infirm, and you'll be dependent on people younger than you to keep the lights on, the meds flowing, and the toilets flushing. Educating our kids as a society is a good idea.
If the kids wants play sports then the parents need to pay for that sports event, coaches salary and all expenses involved.So we can go low for this exercise.
10k for a 6 month part time job.
45k for an average teacher
3k in two payments of supplements each semester
58k a year for less than 180 days of work. So they make roughly 323.00 a day at work. That's not to bad for any profession and doesn't count benefits.
So should a teacher who coaches, or a coach who teaches in some cases, still get paid for coaching if the sports aren't played?
Yes!I remember when my mother went from stay at home to having to get outside work simply because of finances and it certainly wasn't to keep up with anyone but basic needs.
I don't have kids so I can't have a personal financial purpose relative to this discussion. All I do is pay and accept the expense because it's in my interest (and yours whether you realize it or not) to live among the literate in society. Want to know what it's like to live in a society where you don't pay taxes for education and illiteracy is common? Check out Afganistan or much of Africa. Kids running around without prospects for a future and dirt floors is all they have to offer where as America is the greatest country in the world. Literacy= increased GDP = increased quality of living.Sorry -No not really-- I am not a socialist. I can take care of myself. I don't need any "young" people to help me in the future. ESPECIALLY young people of today! We already see what has happened with the socialist's trainng in our schools now a days! Especially ones that have been trained to be socialist and communist, spread the wealth type liberals! Its not my responsibility to educate your damn kids. Take the tax break you get "that I dont get" and use it to educate your own kids. If you want them to be communist then by all means use your money and not my tax dollars.
You cannot be a little bit communist when it serves your financial purpose. Look up narcissisms. If you are gonna be a Republician then be a Republican *** learn what that means. You cannot be a democrat sometimes when it seems to be to your benefit.
Agree!!!If the kids wants play sports then the parents need to pay for that sports event, coaches salary and all expenses involved.
I don't have kids so I can't have a personal financial purpose relative to this discussion. All I do is pay and accept the expense because it's in my interest (and yours whether you realize it or not) to live among the literate in society. Want to know what it's like to live in a society where you don't pay taxes for education and illiteracy is common? Check out Afganistan or much of Africa. Kids running around without prospects for a future and dirt floors is all they have to offer where as America is the greatest country in the world. Literacy= increased GDP = increased quality of living.
I've studied psychology in college. Not quite sure why you're talking about narcissism, but I think it means something other that what you think it means.
I'm just curious, are you going to accept social security (assuming it is still an active program) when you retire? If you're legally working in the USA you're entitled to it as you've been paying into it. Will you participate in Medicare or Medicaid if you get sick or accept food benefits? You best not because you cannot be a little bit communist when it serves your financial purpose.
I will never get out of SS what I have Paid in!!! I would have rather of been in charge of my own social welfare! IF I HAD BEEN GIVEN THE CHOICE! Socialism took that choice away from me. Its clear you do not understand the concepts of the society you live in.
This country is a capitalist's society. NO comparison to the third world tribal leader countries you mentioned. But that may be were we are going if this communist system you are advocating for happens of gets any worse that it is now. I dont need food benefits, I work for a livin buddy! And I plan for my future.
Again- its not my fault nor my responsibility if somebody kids are dumb arses or if the parents are to dumb or lazy to educate them.
FYI- nar·cis·sism selfishness, involving a sense of entitlement, a lack of empathy, and a need for admiration, as characterizing a personality type. In layman's terms as related to this topic---- Wanting some else to educate and pay for their children A sense of entitle in that someone else needs to pay for something they do not deserve. A communist way to take money from one person to give it to another- to educate their children.
Lol it's like your offended. I was just telling you why she went back to her other job like you told me your wife did school. View attachment 229377
That said a toilet paper salesman would make more than most attorneys and I said earlier my wife took a huge pay cut to stay at home with our daughter. Still doubled her salary as a teacher.
The username fits. Simpleman with simple minded arguments
I honestly thought we had gotten into a schlong measuring contest, I was giving you a preview of what I have.
Hahaha, like I haven't heard that here before!
So we can go low for this exercise.
10k for a 6 month part time job.
45k for an average teacher
3k in two payments of supplements each semester
58k a year for less than 180 days of work. So they make roughly 323.00 a day at work. That's not to bad for any profession and doesn't count benefits.
So should a teacher who coaches, or a coach who teaches in some cases, still get paid for coaching if the sports aren't played?
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Coaches make that choice they don't have to do it. So while you bring up the coaching supplement how much does someone get paid to be a head football or Basketball coach?
LET ME PREFACE ALL OF THIS BY SAYING IVE NOT BEEN ON IN OVER 24 HOURS, I MISSED A LOT OF POSTS, SO THIS WILL BE DISJOINTED AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO MAKE THE POINTS I HOPE/WANT TO MAKE
Not all teachers have the choice to coach - it's written into a lot of contracts that you might have to coach something. I can think of several teachers that didnt WANT to coach, but were forced to.
I, honestly, cant say what I get paid to coach. I really dont care. I dont LIKE my sport that I coach in the fall, never played, I dont watch it in my personal life...but I love those boys and i do it for them. Would i like more money? Sure. But Im out there for the kids and so I wont complain about the pay. But the hours get hard.
My day:
Up at 445
At school at 645
School over at 3
PRACTICE DAY - practice wraps up at 530, Im home about 6:15, so about 12 hours since i left home.
GAME DAY - Home anywhere from 9-1130 getting home. Those get rough.
So, I get the above (middle of page 1?) post about time.
My spring sport I played in HS and is much easier as far as time goes and less matches
LET ME PREFACE ALL OF THIS BY SAYING IVE NOT BEEN ON IN OVER 24 HOURS, I MISSED A LOT OF POSTS, SO THIS WILL BE DISJOINTED AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO MAKE THE POINTS I HOPE/WANT TO MAKE
Not all teachers have the choice to coach - it's written into a lot of contracts that you might have to coach something. I can think of several teachers that didnt WANT to coach, but were forced to.
I, honestly, cant say what I get paid to coach. I really dont care. I dont LIKE my sport that I coach in the fall, never played, I dont watch it in my personal life...but I love those boys and i do it for them. Would i like more money? Sure. But Im out there for the kids and so I wont complain about the pay. But the hours get hard.
My day:
Up at 445
At school at 645
School over at 3
PRACTICE DAY - practice wraps up at 530, Im home about 6:15, so about 12 hours since i left home.
GAME DAY - Home anywhere from 9-1130 getting home. Those get rough.
So, I get the above (middle of page 1?) post about time.
My spring sport I played in HS and is much easier as far as time goes and less matches
Teaching is an extremely difficult job. Until you have been there (teacher or parent) I don’t really think it is wise to comment about what should or shouldn’t be done. I am a high school CTE teacher and routinely work 70-80 weeks. I’m not complaining because I love what I do and I knew what I was getting into. But when folks make erroneous claims it’s time to speak up.
So we can go low for this exercise.
10k for a 6 month part time job.
45k for an average teacher
3k in two payments of supplements each semester
58k a year for less than 180 days of work. So they make roughly 323.00 a day at work. That's not to bad for any profession and doesn't count benefits.
So should a teacher who coaches, or a coach who teaches in some cases, still get paid for coaching if the sports aren't played?
I agree.If the kids wants play sports then the parents need to pay for that sports event, coaches salary and all expenses involved.
How do you coach a sport that you don't like, never played and don't watch? What age kids are you "coaching"? That would be like an anti gunner that hates firearms and never touched one teaching a gun safety class.
How do you coach a sport that you don't like, never played and don't watch? What age kids are you "coaching"? That would be like an anti gunner that hates firearms and never touched one teaching a gun safety class.
If the kids wants play sports then the parents need to pay for that sports event, coaches salary and all expenses involved.
Yep. My wife used to hate it when I told her our kids aren’t going around the neighborhood and to our friends selling stupid crap to pay for their volleyball. I said if we can’t pay for it then they can’t play. Simple. I hate all that guilt ridden fund raising crap.
never has been, thanks to teachers!
Aint it good to just blame someone else?You have to be awake to receive instruction.
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Only if you count the time the games are taking place. It's not counting all the hours we spend waiting on kid's parents to pick them up. It doesnt count giving a kid a ride home when they dont have one. Doesnt count dealing with stuff during the school day. Painting the field. Taking kids to a Saturday tournament.I'm sure your getting at least minimum wage compensation.
So you WILL be accepting your socialist handout. Just making sure that's agreed. You can justify it however you want, but socialism it is.
You keep missing the whole point, perhaps it's cognitive dissonance.
You keep missing the whole point, ( I get your point) I fully understand what you are advocating for. I know why you are disagreeing with me and trying to say I don"t understand. What you are missing is my point. Let me spell it out for you.So you WILL be accepting your socialist handout. Just making sure that's agreed. You can justify it however you want, but socialism it is.
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Pay for coaching anything but football is disgustingly low. Considering football coaches only have to worry about 11 games to schedule compared to twenty something in other sports and about 50 in wrestling. And all the other sports Coaches have 4 classes to teach compared to zero to three in PE.Of all the things I can be pissed about in regards to where my taxes are being spent, folks coaching youngsters (essentially just being positive male role models, something sorely missing from many a child's life) is pretty low on the list.
I stopped at the headline.This is where you would expect it to be, but it shows how far public education has fallen in many areas.
https://justthenews.com/politics-po...m=feed&utm_campaign=external-news-aggregators
I stopped at the headline.
Dont think that one union equates to all public schools.
Just so we're clear - I dont wear Red on Wednesdays, not part of any union or 'union' organization, and never missed a day of work to go to Raleigh because I thought we needed change to the system.
I know you werentAgreed it does not equate to all school. But it likely equates to all teacher’s unions and the Red For Ed crowd.
And I was not pointing a finger at you. Just a very real problem in schools across the country. Public sector unions are a huge problem. Even more so when they are destroying our education system.
I know you werent
And I suspect youre right about the Red for Ed folks, most of those are FAR left