Man's 'cheap and rude' tipping method goes viral

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  1. AR10ShooterinNC

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    http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/08/05/mans-cheap-and-rude-tipping-method-goes-viral.html

    Just because you're a waiter or waitress doesn't mean a guaranteed tip from me. If I get bad service, I will not tip. The thing that really kills me, letting me sit there with an empty glass, or even worse, not keeping the coffee filled at breakfast. If I get good service, I will tip around 15%. If I get great service, I will will tip upwards of 25%. At a place like the waffle house (greasy spoon) I have tipped 100% to the ladies that keep up with the coffee.
     
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    Yeah, I was a waiter for a good long time back in the day, and because of that I am generally a pretty good topper when the service is good and above.

    But the “5 dollars and take one away” thing is just silly to me. I go out to eat for the food and convenience mainly. Turning it into a game with the server isn’t in my wheelhouse. I’ve had servers who started out rough then I realized they were the only one rocking 10 tables during a rush. So my “take a dollar away” should have been “add a few more because this dude is hustling even though my drink went unfilled for 45 seconds”.


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    Are we in Tortuga? 'Cause I really want to call that dude a dirty name.
     
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    I worked as a host at a restaurant in Boston while I was in college. I am on the generous. I tip based on service. Even a Hillary supporting waitress got a nice tip. Apparently this was unexpected because she hugged my wife.
    We went to Skull Camp in Elkin on Saturday. Tip on food was probably 40%. The server was a friend of my daughter from High School. She is also very good at her job and she makes good money as a server because she busts her ars for her customers.
     
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    The last time I left a $5 tip it was for less than spectacular service. That's the top of his tip scale? Cheap meal or cheap guy, not sure which. I'm not usually a huge tipper, but $5?

    My best tip story was a bunch of us from scout camp went to Barley's in Asheville on a Sat night. Pulled together some tables that took up most of the place. Ran that poor guy ragged I'm sure, but he did great. At the end of it most of us couldn't really math anymore so we started throwing money on the table. I never really figured out how much we overpaid/tipped but he kept asking if we were sure we didn't want change. Looked like everyone tossed $20-40 dollars each on the table. There was close to 20 of us.
     
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    Not too smart in my opinion. I could just see a ticked off waiter adding a little "something special" to his meal or drink because of this.
     
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    Was at a lunch party once for work. Had a waiter that left drinks unfilled and there were several things missing. This was mentioned several times and the waiter kept saying, “I’ll bring it next time”. Finally one of my coworkers said, “We will bring your tip next time too!”
     
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    Ive also worked at a restaurant.....for that reason i am easy going the staff, and a very generous tipper. Ive only really had 2 bad experiences in a restaurant, and both times we just walked out....not dine and dash, but never got our food walk out.
     
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    Way back, when I had black hair, I worked as a bartender for 5 years in Boston. And more recently I delivered pizza. I tend to over tip. A server really has to be bad for me to leave a bad tip.
    What chaps my fourth point of contact is places that have a 'tip jar' at the register. You're making minimum wage (not the much lower wage that servers are paid), I order my food, you give me my food, and a gratuity is expected? You haven't done anything to earn a tip.
     
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    I was not a fan of the game this guy played, and $5 tip is kind of joke.
     
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    Great way to wind up with some spit in your food.
     
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    Even when I feel like I am getting bad service, I try to be aware of whether the problem is my server or whether it is a back of the house problem.

    I'm used to over-tipping because I still have elementary school aged kids and they have not learned to coordinate on asking for refills and such.

    But it also burns me when these articles say that servers make less than minimum wage without tips. Not true. If their tips don't put them over, the employer must make it up so we are subsidizing his payroll. Better to say that if they don't make enough money on tips they get canned for making him dip deeper to pay them the minimum.
     
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    that would be felony tampering with food so when caught hope he really like a prison food
     
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    My wife and I walked out of a restaurant after ordering because it was taking forever just too get coffee while we watched the hostess bring coffee to numerous tables with business men.
    That was in NYC. NYC sux balls.

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    There's a guy who woke up one morning and said "how can I be a jerk and make someone else's life harder today?" He found his answer.

    If this is you, get another hobby.
     
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    I agree completely that it would be a douche move on a server's part and would never agree with them doing something like that. But with that said, you know it has to happen. I personally don't won't to be served food by someone if I've just done something to pi$$ them off.
     
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    I figure they work for a living like I do. I try to realize she's probably a single Mom trying real hard, and she needs the money. Plus...give what you want to get.

    But what I hate are the pre-tip machines. You swipe your card after you order and she flips the screen around and it asks how much tip do you want to leave. I haven't even sat down yet. That's investing in a pig in a poke and I'm not real keen on that.
     
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    My wife were at a chinese restaurant one night with another couple. We drank a little too much and when I started adding up the bill plus the tip I lost track of a bill somewhere. So I thought I had left a rounded 20% tip. The tab was some amount and 95 cents.

    I pay and we're walking out and she comes to me with the nickel saying "This for you" I was like no you can keep the nickel it was part of the $20 I left for the tip lady. Dang you really don't want the change? She kept giving me the nickel so I took it. When I got outside the cool air made my head clear for a second and I realized she was calling me a cheap charlie. I pulled my wallet out and counted the money I had, did the math and realized I had forgot to leave the $20 so I had tipped her the nickel.

    I swallowed my pride, went back in and gave her the $20 and apologized. Felt like an ass but we still laugh about it today. "Noooo, this is for you" LMAO.
     
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    I've waited tables and tended bar and I tip more than average when the service is good and way more when it is really good. But will be stingy when service is lousy. Usually with a note left on the receipt..... "Better service = better tip." They gotta learn somehow.

    As for walking out................ the wife and I did that at a locally "well renowned" place. The owner placed us at a table and gave us menus. Then a few minutes later a girl came by and filled our water glasses --- without a word or a smile, just dumped the water in and walked away. And then we waited for someone to come take our orders. And waited. And waited. Meanwhile two other tables were seated and drink orders taken & served.

    Finally the wife said, "You're ready, aren't you?" (She knows me, lol.) As we were pulling out of the parking lot the owner was in the door waving for us to come back in. I waved back to her.

    The next day I sent them a message thanking them for the wonderful meal we had that night --- at another restaurant. I told the tale of what happened. And said how disappointed we were with the service.

    And their response was...........................................

    Same as their service. Zip.
     
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    My google-fu isn't finding it, but I seem to recall a news story from not too long ago about a cook at Outback pissing on someone's steak when they sent it back.
     
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    That is definitely a jerk thing to do. That’s worse than leaving the fake money with Jesus on it saying that you need to get to church. My wife and I both worked in the restaurant industry at different points so we tend to overtip and be understanding when problems happen. The worst thing for me was they always threw my ugly mug in the kitchen to be a cook so I got low pay while the servers made bank.
     
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    If you guys have never seen the movie "Waiting" , its a good comedy that revolves around a group working in a restaurant. Made in 2006?? or so. Its a little raunchy, so probably not a kiddie movie.
     
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    I first heard about this about 10 years ago.
     
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    I never send food back, if it's that bad I ask for the manager, try to get a discount pay and leave.
     
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    I way over tip on tabs under $75, but am always conflicted about tabs over $300.

    Hypothetically, it’s a few of us business guys, we don’t require a lot of attention, it just happens to be an expensive place. Dinner is $75-$100 or more per person. Maybe we spend $75 in the bar while waiting, leave $100. At dinner waitperson does exactly the same thing that the waitperson would do at Chili’s. I feel ripped off leaving even a 15% tip on a $400 tab when we spent an hour in the restaurant. Am I being cheap? Waitperson has 3 tables, are they making >$150/hr, how do you justify that?
     
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    Heard about this when I was working my first job at Lone Star Steakhouse, 20 years ago.

    Im not the greatest tipper, but two people at a decent meal and the max youre leaving is 5 bucks? WOW, maybe you shouldnt be going out to eat if that's all youre willing to allocate to the server
     
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    This ain't rocket science folks ..stick -'n- carrot methodology... Twenty percent for starters (IF) the service is good and more when warranted.
    And I try to never penalize a waiter/waitress for less than stellar meal (IF) their service is good they are courteous and attentive..After all I'm not tipping the cook. .I've been on both sides of the table!
    But this "entitlement" mentality (that somehow they deserve a minimum) for doing squat...well that dog don't hunt.
    That smacks of the same mindset as those whinny-ass liberal millennials picketing Mickey-D's "demanding" 15 shekels/hr simply "because"......
    Rant off.
     
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    It’s always been pretty simple for me. It’s server dependent. The end. A server who’s hustling to serve their section gets a ton of respect verses one who is super attentive to one or two tables in a full ten plus area.

    If they do the expected in a timely fashion. 20%. I’m easy to please. If you put in effort you get more. Just last night we ate at a Chinese buffet. Fella asked for drink requests. Later, filled drinks once. Removed plates once. Brought check towards the end of dinner. No muss, no fuss, no extra, sure 20%.

    For above and beyond. I have on many occasions left a tip larger than the bill. Excellent service begets excellent rewards.

    I can count two times that I didn’t tip at a “nicer” place. Both were for non existent service. On one of those occasions. My server was on the phone and gossiping and not doing crap at all. The server in the other section across the aisle. Was handling all her tables plus “my server’s” busting ass.
    “My server” came over all sweet, chatting us up, asking about the meal (clearly fishing for her tip) as she delivered the check. Struck me wrong. So I payed, (got chatted up so sweetly I think I got a cavity) then went to leave. She rolled her eyes as I left when she picked up the copy where wrote “I don’t know your private life, but professionals leave it at home when they clock on, you can do better”.

    Then she turned beet red when I handed the server who had been a rockstar a hundy for our $75 meal and thanked her for her effort and positive attitude.
     
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    If I were waiting tables and saw someone play this game, I would be happy to ignore them until they leave and they can take their $5 with them.
     
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    Off topic, but Ive had 'entitlement' on my mind for the past 13 hours or so.
    I had two soccer players just walk away from the field house before practice yesterday because they were put on the JV team.
    Both boys wouldnt even be in the top 5 of the JV team, but they expected to make Varsity, want to know why?
    Simply because they were juniors now.
    Entitlement these days is ridiculous. Kids feel like, "Im a junior now, Im going to the Varsity team" no matter how good or, rather, BAD, their skill level is.
    Of the two one would probably be a starter on the JV team, the other wouldnt even be a starter, never been very good.
    But entitlement.

    Oh well.
     
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    I work in fast food so I a sympathetic for wait staff.

    My wife and I along with two grown kids and a grand kid went to a small town pizza joint. The waitress screwed up one daughters dinner order, but anyone can make a mistake. Long story short I left her a $30 tip that she didn't expect.



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    Funny, I’ve had the same thought related to business dinners. It’s easy to run up a $500+ bill with a group of 4-6 at a steakhouse, especially with a couple bottles of wine. Do you really need to tip that person $100 (20%) for your single table? Imagine the more expensive dinners I’ve done that can be up to $2500 for a group of 8 in a private dining area at Scarpetta in Vegas.
    I will say that we usually get excellent service at these places but still it seems like a huge amount for a tip.
     
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    If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford to dine out. I see it as a part of the cost of doing business.
     
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    It's also a highly American custom. In many countries it isn't normal and in some it's considered offensive to the staff.
     
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    Exactly. Seems like you just need to get a damn life if you feel the need to do this stupid game.

    That said, I have no problem calling someone out for terrible service. But I’m taking terrible as in you never refill my glass, I wait over 20min for my check, you get multiple meals wrong and don’t offer to make it right nor apologize. People like instant feedback but I find it more productive and more reasonable to simple ask firmly and repeatedly if necessary. Most people get the picture.
     
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    Bullshit!!!!Food joints should have to pay a minimum wage, tips should just be that, nothing should expected.
     
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    I tip wait staff accordingly. If their not much of a waiter or waitress they don't get much.

    Most wait staff know I tip this way and I keep my tea glass full at all times. I'm happy you're happy.
     
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    I wait tables part time, and have been doing so for 10 years. 100% of the time anyone who talks about, or alludes to a tip is going nowhere good. That is a private matter. I do my job regardless, I am polite and promt. I will not jump through hoops or play games for a tip. If folks can't "afford" to tip, maybe going out isn't the best use of their funds. In my experience though, it has little to do with affording the tip money. Most of my bad tips come from table who have spent money on all sorts of items beyond the entree. When folks go out to eat they should receive good service, in turn the server should be justly compensated for the services rendered.
     
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    Wait staff has to be pretty bad for me to leave a reduced tip, however one waitress managed to get no tip.

    An anorexic young woman took lunch orders from myself and my wife and made it halfway to the kitchen before returning to our table to pointedly ask my wife "Was that a DIET Coke you wanted?" If looks could kill . . . . .
     
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    At a diner in high school the waitresses from my high school were pulling $15 an hour in just tips. In a 50’s style diner in a smaller area. The wage they were paid was $2.15 an hour on top of that to cover taxes, but they usually owed the government more due to how much they had to report from cards. Most of their tips were cash so they made out like bandits. It seems to me that they are doing just fine as far as the “minimum wage” crap goes.
     

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