Dirtydirtysouf
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Got a link to the site ur using?
MASF challenges
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CHRIS_WNC
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All my stuff is in. Did you “pre-scoop” out your mixes ahead of time or do them on the fly?
Going to start with the workout mixes tonight for gym and go full liquid on Saturday, MAY the first.
CHRIS
Going to start with the workout mixes tonight for gym and go full liquid on Saturday, MAY the first.
CHRIS
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Directly from them.
SMASH YOUR GREENS®
Support Immunity, Boost Energy, and Improve Gut Health with Smashin’ Greens. The Smashin’ Greens are a Premium USDA Certified Organic Superfood Blend. Try Smashin’ Reds for antioxidants and increased libido. High Quality Collagen Protein. Veteran owned and operated. Excellence is the only standard.
masfsupplements.com
OP
I did mine the day before....the greens taste much better cold....two packs of stevia and some sugar free coffee flavors will help....
OP
I used some of the kit....if you want to do the challenge and get the award then you have to buy the kit.....if you want just the greens go for it! They also offer a mil/vet discount via IDme.
Chuckman
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Not terribly interested in the 'challenge,' just ridding myself of about 10, 12 pounds. Thinking 5 day; longer if I need to.
OP
Pound water! I was only having one smashing greens a day for breakfast then doing a recovery with 20 oz of water after work and taking the multi vitamin with my DHEA in the morning taking in 140 plus oz of water daily. I had alot of carb bloat in my upper gut that dropped away by day 2.
Chuckman
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Today is day 4 (3? They are running together). I am not full-on fasting; I am using the Smashin' Greens for IF and meal replacement for some meals. I kinda like the taste...subtle matcha tea flavor, drinks well. I get hungry but not famished. We'll see how I weigh Monday....
Chuckman
Senior Member
OK... so after using Smashin' Greens as a meal replacement for 1 or 2 meals a day for a week, today I am 189.6, down about 5#. I feel a bit looser in the waist, but I still need to rid some belly/waist fat.
This week I am eating normally, but we have a big eating weekend planned, so next week I will be back at it for another week or two of meal replacement.
This week I am eating normally, but we have a big eating weekend planned, so next week I will be back at it for another week or two of meal replacement.
OK, here's my input on this.
I can't look up this MASF thing (blocked at work), but I'll tell you how you can lose a lot of weight without this.
First, let's talk about those scales.
For monitoring your weight, you need to weigh yourself first thing in the morning, after your trip to the bathroom. This will the time when your weight is the most consistent. Go to bed well hydrated, let your body do its thing through the night, and by morning your water weight will be consistent because you'll be properly hydrated and the excess water processed and waiting for you to drain the lizard.
Your weight will vary significantly throughout the day for a variety of factors: meals, drinking, sweating, peeing, physical activity, etc. So the morning is when you should be weighing yourself for consistency.
Second, let's talk about food/fluids:
It's not unusual to loose a significant amount of weight in the first day or two of most diets. But this isn't a "true" weight loss because you're not losing it all due to fat loss...you're losing the majority of it because you've significantly reduced your dietary mass intake while your body is still pushing everything else already in the GI track out to the toilet. Essentially, you've emptied your GI track of a large bulk of food it already had in there.
After the first few days, while you're maintaining a consistent diet, your weight will settle down and the weight loss you see then will actually represent fat loss.
HOWEVER, if your diet isn't properly balanced, part of that weight loss will also be in muscle mass. So it's absolutely essential while you're cutting down on calories, that you're NOT depriving your body of the nutrients it needs to remain healthy in the process.
If you radically shift your diet by cutting out entire food groups, you WILL lose weight...but in the process, your body will react to what it's missing in nutrients by scavenging what it needs from other tissues elsewhere in the body as well as tell you it's hungry because it wants you to consume the things it needs. Like muscle mass, for example. And remember...you're heart is a muscle, too. (Just sayin'.) You can adversely affect bone density and the like, as well, in extreme cases.
You CAN significantly reduce your calorie intake while maintaining a balanced diet. As I said above, I don't know what this MASF thing is...but having lived through decades of endless diet fads, I'm STRONGLY suspicious of them because a great many of them are either nutritionally bad for you, or they are marketing scams that encourage you to do what you are already able to do yourself at no added cost.
Cutting back on calories while maintaining an balanced diet isn't really that difficult a thing. And, done properly, it means that when you've reached your target weight, you don't have to "fight" to maintain it. You've spent several weeks/months having taught yourself to eat a balanced diet in reasonable portions and don't have to change anything at that point.
Fluids? Drink water. Cut out the rest of the stuff, most especially sodas, sweet tea, etc. You really don't need them and loading up your body with hundreds of calories a day in sugar is a significant amount of calories (not to mention the wear and tear on your body's ability to process carbs over a lifetime, which may be a cause for the onset of Type 2 diabetes later in life). For flavors, add some lemon/lime juice or use some of those "water enhancers" like MIO or Kool-Aid thingies that you squirt into the water. (Those use sucralose, not sugar. I haven't seen anything which ties the long term use of sucralose to adverse health effects, but some people don't use artificial sweeteners on principle. Your choice.)
Third, let's talk about physical activity.
If you want to call it "exercise", fine. But what it's REALLY all about is being physically active. THIS is where significant weight loss is attained, NOT because you're actually burning more calories (there is that), but because of the primary benefit of being physically active.
Namely, while you're physically active, you don't feel hunger.
That's right. While you're up and about, walking to and from work sites, moving about the office, running out to your car during a break to get something, etc., your body doesn't feel hunger.
It's when you are not so active that the body now tells you "Hey, now would be a great time to eat, because I can devote resources for this."
It's not so much a "psychological" thing as a simple biological fact that the body has to manage it's resources. While you're active, your body has to devote resources to be successful in whatever activity you're doing. When you're sleeping, the body uses that time to perform the majority of repairs it was unable to dedicate the resources to throughout the day (which is why sleep is so important when you're sick). And when you stop to relax during the day, that's the time the body can devote resources to replenishing energy stores and nutrients you were using while active.
So it's not EXERCISE, per se, that's required for weight loss, it's PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.
You can lose more weight, much easier, by cutting back on calorie intake significantly and being physically active than you will be able to by trying to burn off an equivalent amount of calories by exercising. Why? Because you have to exercise a LOT more in addition to your normal daily requirements. In other words, it's easier to create a significant calorie deficit by reducing calorie intake than by increasing exercise.
As an example:
Riding a bicycle at a moderate speed for an hour will burn about 500 calories. (And this on top of your daily routine.) Or you can simply not wash that Snickers bar down with a Coke.
SO...a balanced diet in reasonable portions, combined with being physically active throughout the day. If you want to incorporate more exercise beyond that, great.
I can't look up this MASF thing (blocked at work), but I'll tell you how you can lose a lot of weight without this.
First, let's talk about those scales.
For monitoring your weight, you need to weigh yourself first thing in the morning, after your trip to the bathroom. This will the time when your weight is the most consistent. Go to bed well hydrated, let your body do its thing through the night, and by morning your water weight will be consistent because you'll be properly hydrated and the excess water processed and waiting for you to drain the lizard.
Your weight will vary significantly throughout the day for a variety of factors: meals, drinking, sweating, peeing, physical activity, etc. So the morning is when you should be weighing yourself for consistency.
Second, let's talk about food/fluids:
It's not unusual to loose a significant amount of weight in the first day or two of most diets. But this isn't a "true" weight loss because you're not losing it all due to fat loss...you're losing the majority of it because you've significantly reduced your dietary mass intake while your body is still pushing everything else already in the GI track out to the toilet. Essentially, you've emptied your GI track of a large bulk of food it already had in there.
After the first few days, while you're maintaining a consistent diet, your weight will settle down and the weight loss you see then will actually represent fat loss.
HOWEVER, if your diet isn't properly balanced, part of that weight loss will also be in muscle mass. So it's absolutely essential while you're cutting down on calories, that you're NOT depriving your body of the nutrients it needs to remain healthy in the process.
If you radically shift your diet by cutting out entire food groups, you WILL lose weight...but in the process, your body will react to what it's missing in nutrients by scavenging what it needs from other tissues elsewhere in the body as well as tell you it's hungry because it wants you to consume the things it needs. Like muscle mass, for example. And remember...you're heart is a muscle, too. (Just sayin'.) You can adversely affect bone density and the like, as well, in extreme cases.
You CAN significantly reduce your calorie intake while maintaining a balanced diet. As I said above, I don't know what this MASF thing is...but having lived through decades of endless diet fads, I'm STRONGLY suspicious of them because a great many of them are either nutritionally bad for you, or they are marketing scams that encourage you to do what you are already able to do yourself at no added cost.
Cutting back on calories while maintaining an balanced diet isn't really that difficult a thing. And, done properly, it means that when you've reached your target weight, you don't have to "fight" to maintain it. You've spent several weeks/months having taught yourself to eat a balanced diet in reasonable portions and don't have to change anything at that point.
Fluids? Drink water. Cut out the rest of the stuff, most especially sodas, sweet tea, etc. You really don't need them and loading up your body with hundreds of calories a day in sugar is a significant amount of calories (not to mention the wear and tear on your body's ability to process carbs over a lifetime, which may be a cause for the onset of Type 2 diabetes later in life). For flavors, add some lemon/lime juice or use some of those "water enhancers" like MIO or Kool-Aid thingies that you squirt into the water. (Those use sucralose, not sugar. I haven't seen anything which ties the long term use of sucralose to adverse health effects, but some people don't use artificial sweeteners on principle. Your choice.)
Third, let's talk about physical activity.
If you want to call it "exercise", fine. But what it's REALLY all about is being physically active. THIS is where significant weight loss is attained, NOT because you're actually burning more calories (there is that), but because of the primary benefit of being physically active.
Namely, while you're physically active, you don't feel hunger.
That's right. While you're up and about, walking to and from work sites, moving about the office, running out to your car during a break to get something, etc., your body doesn't feel hunger.
It's when you are not so active that the body now tells you "Hey, now would be a great time to eat, because I can devote resources for this."
It's not so much a "psychological" thing as a simple biological fact that the body has to manage it's resources. While you're active, your body has to devote resources to be successful in whatever activity you're doing. When you're sleeping, the body uses that time to perform the majority of repairs it was unable to dedicate the resources to throughout the day (which is why sleep is so important when you're sick). And when you stop to relax during the day, that's the time the body can devote resources to replenishing energy stores and nutrients you were using while active.
So it's not EXERCISE, per se, that's required for weight loss, it's PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.
You can lose more weight, much easier, by cutting back on calorie intake significantly and being physically active than you will be able to by trying to burn off an equivalent amount of calories by exercising. Why? Because you have to exercise a LOT more in addition to your normal daily requirements. In other words, it's easier to create a significant calorie deficit by reducing calorie intake than by increasing exercise.
As an example:
Riding a bicycle at a moderate speed for an hour will burn about 500 calories. (And this on top of your daily routine.) Or you can simply not wash that Snickers bar down with a Coke.
SO...a balanced diet in reasonable portions, combined with being physically active throughout the day. If you want to incorporate more exercise beyond that, great.
Chuckman
Senior Member
I think you are largely right in much of this, but weight loss is in the kitchen. Exercise/activity helps and can accelerate it; the evidence and benefits are numerous and incontrovertible. But you can easily lose weight without ever breaking a sweat, and keep it off. "Weight loss is in the kitchen; fitness is in the exercise."
MASF was created by a former SEAL (me, eye-rolling)-turned-MMA fighter, who hawks his brands of supplements. The supplements for his fasting challenges are nutrient dense. One can absolutely loose weight without any of that stuff; sometimes, you want a bit of a mental boost by having a few pounds come off quickly. This plan, a 2-week or 4-week Atkins induction, whatever, there are ways to drop big weight fast. All of that said, I am doing the supplement as a meal replacement, but typically live by 'the best diet is the one that works for you' approach. Like you, mine is 'eat less move more.' And it works just fine.
Yep. I said that at the end, with respect to the relative weight loss benefits of diet vs. exercise. And the discussion of physical activity vs. exercise.
But I love the way you phrase it..."weight loss is in the kitchen; fitness is in the exercise".
Chuckman
Senior Member
Thanks, credit where it is due, I stole it from someone else. When I was a young stud I could eat 3K-4K calories a day and just PT it off. That shi! changed when I turned 40 and my metabolism took a dump and the testosterone started waning, so while I still exercise, I can't 'run it off' anymore. I have to control it in the kitchen. And, I do not deprive myself: yesterday I had three beers, a piece of chocolate cake and some ice cream. But it was a "treat day". Now back to the grind.
Yeah, I'm approaching 60 and the metabolism thing it most definitely real. It doesn't help that "relaxing" and not being so physically active any more is soooooooo attractive!