Michigan 9yr old kiled his mother with rifle.

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A nine-year-old boy has been charged with murder after his mother was killed with a rifle in their home in southern Michigan.

Court documents show he is also facing a felony firearm charge.

It is unclear if he has been charged as an adult or juvenile.

St Joseph County prosecutor John McDonough told WWMT-TV the woman’s body was found early on Monday morning in Fawn River Township, about 160 miles (260km) west-southwest of Detroit.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nine-old-boy-charged-murder-074453202.html
 
The accused also wanted to harm an 8yr old girl.
 
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I'll have to find the link, but I believe he was adopted and was scheduled for a psyhic eval the next day. The headline read, Mother was afraid she was raising a serial killer.


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Here's a link to a different story that covers the same info. He was adopted from a mother who was a drug user and he had mental health issues. The adoptive mother had difficulty finding resources to help him.
He apparently doesn't realize what he has done as he is asking for his mom.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-old-adoptive-son-says-trying-SCARE-her.html
 
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Rubber room for him until he is 18 then the general public will have to deal with him.
 
Goofyfoot2001 said:
Kid has probably been on psych meds from an early age. This seems to be the MO with these kids.
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Sadly. That shit is bad juju. My adult daughter's on the Autism spectrum & has some other issues & when they tweak her meds, we have to keep an eye on her that it doesn't cause her to hallucinate & become paranoid & combative. Awesome kid. Funny, smart, sweet, but if they get her meds wrong, things become not so fun.

I'm positive that some people are just born evil, but it sounds like this kid never had a chance. I had a hellish childhood & it screws you up. Badly. I've had to work my ass off & disappear half way 'round the world to get past the madness & make a fresh start. Some of us figure it out & some never will. I kept it together long enough to graduate high school & join the Army & get a chance to start over. Some can't take it for that long & snap.
 
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I think it has way more to do with underlying condition than meds. The reason I say that is my daughter has ocd and anxiety that was crippling her eating habits. She was 8 years old and weighed 45 pounds. After 10-20k dollars worth of medical test they finally gave up and said it was behavioral. So we went to a special doctor and the asked if we were against meds we said no anything to help. So they put her on an ssr inhibitor. In two days she was eating stuff she would never even look at before. There was zero change in her personality or behaviors besides the anxiety lifted. If I had not seen it myself I'd never believed it.

So does the meds play a part? Yeah I'm sure but I believe the underlying mental health issue is the greatest factor.
 
Cowboy said:
I think it has way more to do with underlying condition than meds...

...So does the meds play a part? Yeah I'm sure but I believe the underlying mental health issue is the greatest factor.
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Believe me, I don't blame the meds and wish "Psych Meds" had a different common moniker that carried less potential for unwarranted stigma. I do think, however, that too many schoolboys are labeled "ADHD" and doped-up just for acting like boys.
 
Aardvark said:
Believe me, I don't blame the meds and wish "Psych Meds" had a different common moniker that carried less potential for unwarranted stigma. I do think, however, that too many schoolboys are labeled "ADHD" and doped-up just for acting like boys.
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I agree with that for sure. But when we keep hearing it's because of the meds that's just an easy way out of the truth.
 
After dealing with the foster/adoption world, I am truly amazed that there aren't more cases like this honestly. Kids...babies...who are neglected, left to fend for themselves, abused, sexually assaulted, given drugs and alcohol, around domestic violence (both verbal and physical), homelessness, hunger.

Most of us, as adults who grew up in relatively "normal" situations cant really relate. Kids, who are still learning about the world, have very simple survival instincts. Sadly, surviving and not starving are real to them in ways we struggle to understand as they don't have the capacity to "reason" things out long term. That's how, sometimes, you can get instances where a child kills, but doesn't really understand that the person is gone forever. Now, this kid could be evil personified, Damien HellSpawn, for all I know. But just speaking in general, I have learned that how we, as adults, cope with trauma is often far different than how children do. Children have a more raw, animalistic approach to staying alive and healthy than we often understand much less give them credit for.
 
Bailey Boat said:
God only knows what's in his history to make him want to kill the person that gave him life. What in hell has happened to the kids??? (rhetorical)
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Most likely abused. But some people are just born broken. I seen kids from the same family. One extremely bright, well behaved and well adjusted. Another with zero empathy and all the early markers of a sociopath. The never ending argument of nature vs nurture. I believe it is a combination. Not everyone that is abused grows up to be an abuser or violent adult.
Me? I developed a strong aversion for conflict such that I would probably suck in a management position. I have zero tolerance for bullies and that made me seek to bully-proof my kids from when they were little.
 
B00ger said:
After dealing with the foster/adoption world, I am truly amazed that there aren't more cases like this honestly. Kids...babies...who are neglected, left to fend for themselves, abused, sexually assaulted, given drugs and alcohol, around domestic violence (both verbal and physical), homelessness, hunger.

Most of us, as adults who grew up in relatively "normal" situations cant really relate. Kids, who are still learning about the world, have very simple survival instincts. Sadly, surviving and not starving are real to them in ways we struggle to understand as they don't have the capacity to "reason" things out long term. That's how, sometimes, you can get instances where a child kills, but doesn't really understand that the person is gone forever. Now, this kid could be evil personified, Damien HellSpawn, for all I know. But just speaking in general, I have learned that how we, as adults, cope with trauma is often far different than how children do. Children have a more raw, animalistic approach to staying alive and healthy than we often understand much less give them credit for.
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Very, very true. My egg donor's 2nd husband beat the dogshit outta me on the regular. Not 'whoopins', but green & purple bruising from my knees to my shoulders & throwing me around the house, bouncing me off walls. My father found out, pressed charges & when questioned on the stand about her knowledge of the abuse, not only did that bitch disavow any knowledge (despite bandaging me up & keeping me out of school when necessary for the last couple years), but the court sent me back the the egg donor & her 'tough guy' husband.

9 y/o, trapped in hell & nobody could/would help. After being sent back 'home', I think the egg donor twigged that a switch had been flipped, as I had decided the beatings were over. I knew how to shoot, knew where asshole stashed his guns & the next time he beat me, I was going to blow his brains out in his sleep. She gave custody of me to my father at that point. Years later, she said she realized what was coming & wanted to 'spare me the trauma'. Truth is, the whore didn't want to deal with the fallout, nor lose her meal ticket.

Needless to say, I have a wee bit of a problem with people putting their hands on me & it is generally NOT recommended.

So yeah. Not a 'woe is me' thing or anything like that & likely a bit of over-sharing, but I totally understand how some kids lose their shit & act out violently. When you treat a kid like unwanted garbage, when their life looks like kill or be killed & nobody, including those who should, cares about them, don't be surprised when they completely lose their shit. Of course the adoptive mom was most likely in no way abusing the kid, but when your entire life experience is abuse, your perceptions, coping skills & reactions are so dysfunctional & extreme as to appear psychotic to outsiders & discipline & boundaries look/feel like abuse & that shit don't go away overnight. Hell, it's been 40 years since that mess & despite years of hard work, therapy & distance, I'm still a little bit broken & doubt that I'll ever be entirely 'whole'. Am I/will I be okay? Absolutely, but there are still big, black holes in my life that I'll never get back.
 
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It’s mental health, Meds, and many parents who refuse or just can’t be bothered to parent.

There simply isn’t enough access to mental health other than pull pushers.


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The kid had a legit diagnosed and treated mood disorder, and prolly a few others media haven't mentioned. The situation is tragic, and I see a dead mother who tried to do the right thing, and a kid wo will forever be 'part of the system'.
 
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Denver, Co. just decriminalized 'shrooms. Improved mental health being cited as one of the benefits.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...zes-magic-mushrooms-historic-vote/1147857001/

Advocates say the mushrooms, which contain the hallucinogen psilocybin, have been used for thousands of years and may provide an alternative treatment for opiate addiction and mental health troubles, as well as spiritual insight.
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Wonderful. Some knucklehead will take a vacation on his couch and do something stupid with a firearm. It will of course be the firearms fault.

Seriously...they be trippin!o_O
 
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