More idiots driving with their hazards on...

Button Pusher said:
NJ has to on the top five list, they are reckless, most of the time they end causing a wreck down I95 by taking out two or more cars. They most likely lease the car so they could care kess.
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I agree. DC, NY, NJ, Chicago, Detroit are all some of the worst drivers I've seen. Everyone is missing mirrors in all of those places.
 
cubrock said:
Hazards are brighter than your standard tail lights. They definitely make it easier to see a vehicle in very heavy rain or fog. I don’t see why this annoys so many people here.

Now, hazards without headlights - that annoyance I get.
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If it's raining so hard that you can't see, pull off the road. If it's raining so hard that you don't think other people can see you, get as far from the road as possible.
Driving with your hazards on only creates a hazard because now you're distracting other drivers with flashing lights and no one knows when or in what direction you intend to turn. Of course the latter is an issue for most people rain or sun since so many people don't know that their turn signals even exist.

I just don't see the logic here.
 
I use my flashers almost everyday. I turn them on when I run calls at my volunteer department.
I dont think flashers cause that much of a problem. I don't use them in the rain unless I'm goin yo a call, but I do see people that do and I don't care if they use them. Makes zero difference to me.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
If it's raining so hard that you can't see, pull off the road. If it's raining so hard that you don't think other people can see you, get as far from the road as possible.
Driving with your hazards on only creates a hazard because now you're distracting other drivers with flashing lights and no one knows when or in what direction you intend to turn. Of course the latter is an issue for most people rain or sun since so many people don't know that their turn signals even exist.

I just don't see the logic here.
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I got my drivers license in 1972. Apparently it is how and where one is raised. I will continue to turn on my flashers with the rest of my southern brethren. You know what they say about Delta.

An I'm gonna do it from the left lane.
 
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Ikarus1 said:
Most of the NJ/Ohio/Illinois bad drivers have already moved here in droves. That's why the general driving experience here is awful. Funny, I don't recall any famous Nascar or Indycar champions from Newark, Columbus, or Chicago.
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Danica Patrick is from Illinois.


hahahahahahaha!
 
fieldgrade said:
I got my drivers license in 1972. Apparently it is how and where one is raised. I will continue to turn on my flashers with the rest of my southern brethren. You know what they say about Delta.

An I'm gonna do it from the left lane.
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Thankfully it's only a small minority that turn on their flashers during rain.

Re: left lane
This is why many states are beginning to enforce, or enact, laws against driving in the left lane. The science behind it really highlights how silly and selfish that practice is.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
Re: left lane
This is why many states are beginning to enforce, or enact, laws against driving in the left lane. The science behind it really highlights how silly and selfish that practice is.
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Inside joke my brother, @concepthomes1
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Jerzsubbie said:
Thankfully it's only a small minority that turn on their flashers during rain.

Re: left lane
This is why many states are beginning to enforce, or enact, laws against driving in the left lane. The science behind it really highlights how silly and selfish that practice is.
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Like standing in the middle of a tight sidewalk or doorway and saying "I ain't breaking any laws".
 
fieldgrade said:
I got my drivers license in 1972. Apparently it is how and where one is raised. I will continue to turn on my flashers with the rest of my southern brethren. You know what they say about Delta.

An I'm gonna do it from the left lane.
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I was born and raised in the South, got my license in '76 and was always taught that flashers we're for stopped vehicles only.
 
I guess most of y'all have never driven back-roads and got behind somebody escorting agricultural equipment. I was born and raised here and have never heard anything to the effect that hazard lights were not to be used when driving. The only reason you need an escort now moving ag equipment is precisely because of all the transplants and clueless city dwellers NOT being able to judge how fast a piece of equipment is moving and consequently hitting it from the rear. Which is almost always deadly to the tractor operator.

The first helicopter I ever saw land in person was there to pick up my grandfather when some jackleg from New Jersey plowed into the back of his tractor less than a half mile from our house.

COMMONLY accepted reasons for running hazards when I was growing up was escorting farm equipment, taking wife in labor to hospital, running calls as a first responder, driving significantly slower than those around you due to equipment malfunction, road debris navigation and a few others.

To be fair, if we ran them in the rain, it was only until we could get over and stop, and we dang sure didn't leave them running at an intersection.

I am not looking forward to dying. But, there are a couple of side benefits that I am excited about.

Like not being in pain from the minute I wake up.

And never having to drive on these roads again with some of the most inconsiderate, self centered, me generation folks again.

My daily commute has soured me to hope for humanity more than any other subject in my life (gun-control, abortion, police state, taxes, etc).

20 years ago if someone was driving in a fashion that I thought was weird, or aggressive, or stupid, I could generalize or stereotype and 90% of the time be right. Somebody going 25 miles below the speed limit in a Buick? Oh, that's probably an old white guy. Not giving a turn signal and whipping in real fast off of Franklin street? Yeah, that's probably a young asian female college student. I get behind a Volvo or Subaru out in the country that runs 70 and then slows down to 40 then back up to 70? Probably a yuppie from Cary/Chapel Hill looking for the magical organic unicorn farm that they heard was on my road.

But not anymore. It's everybody. Rednecks, city folks, young folks, old folks, conservatives, liberals, libertarians, and every race and creed.

Most folks don't seem to care about anything outside the magic bubble of their technological marvel which shields them from realities of how things work when something goes wrong. No turn signals. No lights in the rain or fog. Pull out in front of you on a country backroad with no traffic coming when you are doing 60 miles an hour and they are only 100 yards away. Because that's how they learned to drive. OR they don't care. Or they don't understand the mechanics of what can fail on their car. Nonetheless what could fail on my 20 year old Pathfinder that you just pulled out in front of. Because they can. It ain't illegal. LOL

Folks with nice equipment fail to take into account the person they are tailgating in the rain might have to go slower because their tires aren't as nice as theirs. Or their car is 20 years older than yours and that's all they can afford. Or their windshield wipers aren't as good. Or they are older and their reflexes aren't as fast so they are driving to their skill and comfort level. Screw em. Ride right on their bumper so you add to their stress and increase their sensory input.

Cause it feels fun. Feels like a game that you can win cause you're bad.

I have a theory about men that drive like that outside of the testosterone driven 18-24 year old range.

You live in a cookie cutter house in cookie cutter neighborhood in a cookie cutter modern marriage where your wife tells you what you can and can't do and your kids think you are just a goofy annoyance because that is what television and modern marriage as driven by feminism has taught them.
Out on the road is the only place you can "be a man". Be aggressive. Win the race.

I worked EMS for several years and scraped a lot of stupid off the pavement. It's more prevalent now.

Slow down. Get off peoples bumpers. Leave home a little earlier. Don't run your hazards through intersections but if somebody puts em on to warn other folks that they are going slower for WHATEVER reason, don't take it as a challenge.

Be considerate for heavens sake. You were once 16 and learning. And if you are lucky you will one day be older and may drive a little slower. You never know what is going on with other folks.

I guess I have officially "flipped" to the old codger side.

Get off my lawn.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
If it's raining so hard that you can't see, pull off the road. If it's raining so hard that you don't think other people can see you, get as far from the road as possible.
Driving with your hazards on only creates a hazard because now you're distracting other drivers with flashing lights and no one knows when or in what direction you intend to turn. Of course the latter is an issue for most people rain or sun since so many people don't know that their turn signals even exist.

I just don't see the logic here.
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I've never been distracted by someone else's flashers, nor have they made judging speed/distance more difficult for me. Different strokes, I guess.

And you can't always not drive because of the weather. We commonly see people driving with their flashers on in the heavy fog that is so common in the mountains. If you aren't willing to drive in it, you won't be driving for days at a time, sometimes. You can see the flashers of the car ahead of you long before you will see their tail lights. Handy thing, that.
 
cubrock said:
I've never been distracted by someone else's flashers, nor have they made judging speed/distance more difficult for me. Different strokes, I guess.

And you can't always not drive because of the weather. We commonly see people driving with their flashers on in the heavy fog that is so common in the mountains. If you aren't willing to drive in it, you won't be driving for days at a time, sometimes. You can see the flashers of the car ahead of you long before you will see their tail lights. Handy thing, that.
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I'll agree with you 100% on the fog. Tail lights aren't bright enough and yellow/orange light shows better in fog.
 
thrillhill said:
My daily commute has soured me to hope for humanity more than any other subject in my life (gun-control, abortion, police state, taxes, etc).

20 years ago if someone was driving in a fashion that I thought was weird, or aggressive, or stupid, I could generalize or stereotype and 90% of the time be right. Somebody going 25 miles below the speed limit in a Buick? (Snip)

But not anymore. It's everybody. Rednecks, city folks, young folks, old folks, conservatives, liberals, libertarians, and every race and creed.
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If I didn't know better, I'd say you've been driving on Pittsboro Goldston Rd ... You just described it to a T. :p
 
Jerzsubbie said:
I'll agree with you 100% on the fog. Tail lights aren't bright enough and yellow/orange light shows better in fog.
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To clarify, the kind of rain I'm talking about is those heavy summer thunderstorms that hit you without warning and make it hard to even pull over, as you are afraid of getting rear ended (again, this is the case when on the highway. In town, it is easy enough to pull over in a parking lot or something). Thankfully, they rarely last long. Regular rain, I'm with you on not needing the hazard lights. Maybe that is what the OP was talking about, too, and I misunderstood.
 
cubrock said:
To clarify, the kind of rain I'm talking about is those heavy summer thunderstorms that hit you without warning and make it hard to even pull over, as you are afraid of getting rear ended (again, this is the case when on the highway. In town, it is easy enough to pull over in a parking lot or something). Thankfully, they rarely last long. Regular rain, I'm with you on not needing the hazard lights. Maybe that is what the OP was talking about, too, and I misunderstood.
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Yup, I (the OP) was talking about moderate-to-heavy rain that you can easy see in, hence the photo where even on my phone I could see well past the traffic light.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
Yup, I (the OP) was talking about moderate-to-heavy rain that you can easy see in, hence the photo where even on my phone I could see well past the traffic light.
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LOL. I hadn't noticed you are the OP.

When you posted that, I saw the picture, but it was POURING here. You could barely see across the street. Guess that colored my view on what kind of rain we were discussing. :)
 
LeeMajors said:
And why do people leave 2 to 3 car lengths between the car in front and themselves at a stop light.
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Can't speak for them, but as for me, it's 'planning'.

I don't leave 2-3 car lengths, but I do allow myself enough room to prevent from getting boxed in, so if I have to unass the lane quickly, I can.
 
My poll results are heavily skewed in favor of no flashers. I wonder how many of the "no" votes are "locals" who grew up driving here, versus migrants who grew up in states where it's verbotten?
 
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Jerzsubbie said:
I wish. People are addicted to their phones and can barely breath without them. I want to grab a hand held air horn to blow at people staring at their phones vs the road.
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Says the person with the phone in hand taking a picture. Gonna grab an air horn with the other hand and drive with your knee while getting a pic of their reaction??
 
phideux said:
Says the person with the phone in hand taking a picture. Gonna grab an air horn with the other hand and drive with your knee while getting a pic of their reaction??
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Attention to detail not your strong suit, I see.
 
fieldgrade said:
My poll results are heavily skewed in favor of no flashers. I wonder how many of the "no" votes are "locals" who grew up driving here, versus migrants who grew up in states where it's verbotten?
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I’ve been here ~15 years. I don’t recall seeing this phenomenon until a few years ago.
 
C'mon, folks!

They think you can't see the Baby On Board sign in their window when it's pouring rain, so they turn on the Hazards.

It makes total sense!
 
I just drove a few miles with my hazard lights on a couple days ago.

Of course, it was because my car was starting to overheat and I was driving down the emergency lane to the next exit so I could pull into an Auto Zone.
 
concepthomes1 said:
Most folks are generally clueless these days. They think since their car has automatic headlights that they turn on during the rain.
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I notice many run in the rain with just their cars' daytime running lights on. Reckon they don't realize this does not turn on the tail lights. Or don't care for their own safety.
 
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One thing I've noticed, if I am driving in the early morning, or rain, or anytime visibility is impeded it always seems to be the dark colored vehicles which are already harder to see who also don't have any lights on to speak of.
 
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