NASCAR Rejects Gun Ads - Cites “Gradual Shift” on Guns

Nothing surprises me any more....I am Amazed at times. Who is advising these folks?? Country music videos, again, who is advising These folks. Ads from LL Bean, who is advising These folks?
Really it truly appears they are honestly Trying to kill their own businesses.
 
Nothing surprises me any more....I am Amazed at times. Who is advising these folks?? Country music videos, again, who is advising These folks. Ads from LL Bean, who is advising These folks?
Really it truly appears they are honestly Trying to kill their own businesses.

I think it's been dead for a few years.
 
I hate this... I have not been to a race in years, but I have A LOT of great memories from long weekends at Darlington and Rockingham, even Charlotte.

NASCAR has been in a nose dive for the last twenty years, and instead of pulling up they are pushing the throttle harder to tear it apart.
 
Doesn't Nascar have military sponsorships and play up the whole "we love our military/we're so patriotic" angle?
Someone needs to troll them into dumping those too because "guns bad!".
 
Not that long ago they sure did like gun money.

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Between this and their rejection of Slayer's car sponsorship last week, I'm totally done with them. I used to watch most races with my dad as a kid, but I've gradually waned. Now, I wouldn't go if you gave me free tickets to watch a race from Hendrick's private suite.

I'm not even a Slayer fan, but I can acknowledge a cool idea that likely not only resonates with a percentage of NASCAR fans, but would also attract a couple new ones potentially--and to shut them down was stupid.

Now this?!?! Are they seriously drunk???

I have heard from a few folks who were involved in NASCAR's rise to fame and its 80's-90's-00's fortune, and they are greatly disappointed with NASCAR's direction.

It goes back to that thread from yesterday talking about how impressive Chewy.com's customer service is--my reply was sort of "duh, everyone should be doing exemplary customer service as it's the quickest way to success." Along those same lines, "duh, why would you turn your back on the not-so-secret-but-successful formula that got you there in the first place?!?!" Just who exactly are they aiming for? Wealthier people? They're not gonna come to races. Younger, more "acceptable" new fans for fear of the redneck base going away? There are still plenty of rednecks being born and raised--and they all of a sudden are having a pretty big hole torn in their "stuff to spend money on" as they get outcast by the yuppie management of NASCAR.
 
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Nothing surprises me any more....I am Amazed at times. Who is advising these folks?? Country music videos, again, who is advising These folks. Ads from LL Bean, who is advising These folks?
Really it truly appears they are honestly Trying to kill their own businesses.

3 possible answers.
1 They hired a left leaning company to do the research to see what the typical race fan thinks.
2 Whom ever sits on the board now for NASCAR dislikes guns.
3 This may reflect what current race fans think about the firearm industry.

Of coarse if we took a vote on a gun forum it would be overwhelming a bad idea to remove firearms stuff from NASCAR Maybe we are the minority’s in terms of the general public.
 
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Maybe moms demand action are big fans and pulling the trigger on NASCAR because at the speedway is the only place they get any action by showing their falling down boobs.
 
We should fight fire with fire and spread the message that nascar is causing global warming.

Hey theres a gradual shift nascar time to keep it under 55 and go electric. If it saves one life surely its worth the sacrifice right?
 
No secret NASCAR wants to be more PC so they can be sold off to the highest bidder.
 
Never was a fan, just didn't "get it", but I also grew up in NJ where the nearest track was Pocono.

NASCAR as a brand and company is definitiely dying. This guy on youtube, "The Company Man", does reviews of companies who have died or are dying and tries to objectively explain why he thinks that is. Recently, he did an interesting review on NASCAR. Only 11min, it's worth a watch.

 
Never was a fan, just didn't "get it", but I also grew up in NJ where the nearest track was Pocono.

NASCAR as a brand and company is definitiely dying. This guy on youtube, "The Company Man", does reviews of companies who have died or are dying and tries to objectively explain why he thinks that is. Recently, he did an interesting review on NASCAR. Only 11min, it's worth a watch.


Can’t really disagree with him on anything, good vid
 
NASCAR had a couple events that took it down a huge step each time ... Big Bill handing it over to Little Billy in ‘72 started the “modern era” thing and in a few years Little Billy got CBS to cover the Daytona 500 flag to flag and “in car cameras”. He didn’t release at the time he even got the Yarbrough vs Allison Brothers Battle Royal at the end. Little Billy made his Daddy proud and carried on the “modern era” thinking but didn’t sell out its southern roots and flavor. Cut to 2003 and Brain (I meant to spell it that way) France who decide to take it uptown and fancify it ... leaving a lot of it’s roots and loyal fan base aside each time he changed something. He cut short tracks and took race dates from southern tracks to spread NASCAR across the US. He start the Chase for the Cup playoff system in ‘04. He and the others started using the “actions detrimental to NASCAR” the to penalize drivers, owners, crew chiefs, etc if they spoke out against something ... got into skirmishes with other drivers (he forget the Yarbrough vs Allison Brothers of ‘79 put Cup on the map) ... and other stuff they didn’t like. Then the last major idiotic mistake The Car of Tomorrow or as some called it the POS of Today. Boring single file racing and no real action started cutting attendance and rating so France became PT Barnum and began having concerts, fireworks and such to try and drum up the numbers but the loyal southern fan base was then priced out of the events as ticket prices doubled and interest just kept drifting.

NASCAR is on life support and it’s only a matter time before the plug gets kicked out. Today’s teams are heavily dependent on sponsors for multi-million dollar deals along with race to race sponsorships to fill in the gaps and if NASCAR cuts ties with a sector after they had lost tobacco and the breweries ... let ‘em. Only the big boys race now ... the small teams do the start and park then move on the the next race with their couple of cars.

Gone are the characters we loved or loved to hate. Gone is the weekly who got caught doing what in tech inspection. I loved Smokey Yunick, Junior Johnson, Dale Inman, Jake Elder and such “explaining” why that part was in the gray area on the rules. Gone is the pass in the grass, Earnhardt knocking Waltrip into the wall and so on. Gone was the fun and stories behind the race itself.

I don’t no when NASCAR really caught the cancer but those various flare ups along with Earnhardt’s death caused me to stop wasting my time and money over 15 years back on Cup and other national series ... only real racing is Saturday Night locals ... LONG LIVE BOMAN GRAY SATURDAY NIGHTS!
 
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Gunbroker had a.sponsorship in one of the series, thats how I originally found out about them.
 
NASCAR had a couple events that took it down a huge step each time ... Big Bill handing it over to Little Billy in ‘72 started the “modern era” thing and in a few years Little Billy got CBS to cover the Daytona 500 flag to flag and “in car cameras”. He didn’t release at the time he even got the Yarbrough vs Allison Brothers Battle Royal at the end. Little Billy made his Daddy proud and carried on the “modern era” thinking but didn’t sell out its southern roots and flavor. Cut to 2003 and Brain (I meant to spell it that way) France who decide to take it uptown and fancify it ... leaving a lot of it’s roots and loyal fan base aside each time he changed something. He cut short tracks and took race dates from southern tracks to spread NASCAR across the US. He start the Chase for the Cup playoff system in ‘04. He and the others started using the “actions detrimental to NASCAR” the to penalize drivers, owners, crew chiefs, etc if they spoke out against something ... got into skirmishes with other drivers (he forget the Yarbrough vs Allison Brothers of ‘79 put Cup on the map) ... and other stuff they didn’t like. Then the last major idiotic mistake The Car of Tomorrow or as some called it the POS of Today. Boring single file racing and no real action started cutting attendance and rating so France became PT Barnum and began having concerts, fireworks and such to try and drum up the numbers but the loyal southern fan base was then priced out of the events as ticket prices doubled and interest just kept drifting.

NASCAR is on life support and it’s only a matter time before the plug gets kicked out. Today’s teams are heavily dependent on sponsors for multi-million dollar deals along with race to race sponsorships to fill in the gaps and if NASCAR cuts ties with a sector after they had lost tobacco and the breweries ... let ‘em. Only the big boys race now ... the small teams do the start and park then move on the the next race with their couple of cars.

Gone are the characters we loved or loved to hate. Gone is the weekly who got caught doing what in tech inspection. I loved Smokey Yunick, Junior Johnson, Dale Inman, Jake Elder and such “explaining” why that part was in the gray area on the rules. Gone is the pass in the grass, Earnhardt knocking Waltrip into the wall and so on. Gone was the fun and stories behind the race itself.

I don’t no when NASCAR really caught the cancer but those various flare ups along with Earnhardt’s death caused me to stop wasting my time and money over 15 years back on Cup and other national series ... only real racing is Saturday Night locals ... LONG LIVE BOMAN GRAY SATURDAY NIGHTS!

You left out when they went to the stupid stage racing.
 
I hate this... I have not been to a race in years, but I have A LOT of great memories from long weekends at Darlington and Rockingham, even Charlotte.

NASCAR has been in a nose dive for the last twenty years, and instead of pulling up they are pushing the throttle harder to tear it apart.

23 years...

1996 was the last WINSTON CUP race at North Wilkesboro..that was the beginning of the end.

Oh...and F**K Bruton Smith.:mad:
 
23 years...

1996 was the last WINSTON CUP race at North Wilkesboro..that was the beginning of the end.

Oh...and F**K Bruton Smith.:mad:
Oh yeah Bruton buying up all the tracks/dates so he could open his mid-west and west track with those dates (which Brain approved gladly) ... all about the Benjamins or should I say Brutons ... his ego is so big he’d put his picture on his own money if he could legally.
 
23 years...

1996 was the last WINSTON CUP race at North Wilkesboro..that was the beginning of the end.

Oh...and F**K Bruton Smith.:mad:
Shame it's still sitting there empty. It would make one heck of a dirt track if someone would put some money in it before it's too far gone.
 
Trying to kill their own businesses.

Don't be a DICK. :D

And when ESPN went political or CNN Jr. , don't think it went too well.

People and the masses tune in or attend events for Fun & Enjoyment.

Seems Big Business keeps wanting to remove the temporary escape we have to enjoy / relax by becoming part of the problem.
 
Henry has a car now. It's asscar Xfinity series. Whatever that is. I have a hard time caring about a bunch of guys driving in circles for hours. Yes I know there is a lot more to it than that, but it's still mostly guys driving around in circles when the rubber meets the road. Yawn.

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No ads, but a car? Some interesting fence riding. If they had any stones, they would go all or nothing. Business being business, in todays political climate, my move would be the nothing. Fiduciary responsibility would have to take precedence over my personal feelings. Just my stinking opinion.
 
Quit watching years ago. Too many prima donnas now. Too many rules. They ought to turn the tracks into big carp ponds......................
 
A.J. was asked what it would take to reboot NASCAR. His answer while we may or may not agree would at least make it where you could stand to watch it again. He said...…..They need two rules...…..a minimum weight and No Spoilers.
I would like to add ..no radials. Hell, let's find out who can drive.
 
Smae decline to the NHRA which I pity as I love drag racing.

Greed and ego ruin most worthwhile things.

I say make Chicagoland a road course through downtown and the projects.;)
 
A.J. was asked what it would take to reboot NASCAR. His answer while we may or may not agree would at least make it where you could stand to watch it again. He said...…..They need two rules...…..a minimum weight and No Spoilers.
I would like to add ..no radials. Hell, let's find out who can drive.


Might I add no restrictor plates.Like Dale sr said move the stands back 20 rows and let em go.
 
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A.J. was asked what it would take to reboot NASCAR. His answer while we may or may not agree would at least make it where you could stand to watch it again. ..…..

...They need... MORE WRECKS! A great, long race with no wrecks is like a pitchers' duel in baseball: They might be masterpieces in their sports, but they are boring as hell to watch. I love a baseball game with lots of hits and runs, and I will watch NASCAR for the wrecks.
 
How about for that big money race in May? that pays money but no points. At Least for that one have No engine restrictions. Give folks Something to change up the boring races. Hell, even in Darlington they started selling out again out just by Painting the cars in Retro paint.
 
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