need a m-lok foregrip

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I was looking for one on amazon - what the hell is wrong with the place? The search results were pages and pages of unrelated crap with just a few actual grips sprinkled in.

The cheapest one they had was aluminum and 34$. I would be fine with plastic and was looking for something cheaper, straight, normal size. Any suggestions?
 
I have one of these I’m going to list for sale cheap. Lmk if it would fit your needs.

 
Can you get your whole hand on that? Looks like it's fairly short?
You are correct, it is stubby so you won’t be able to get your whole hand on it.

Full size VFG’s like the KAC and Tango Down have very much fallen out of popularity. I haven’t looked for a full size MLOK VFG, but I can’t recall seeing one lately.
 
Sounds like you want a basic Magpul VFG. They're super cheap and in stock in most gun stores.
 
You are correct, it is stubby so you won’t be able to get your whole hand on it.

Full size VFG’s like the KAC and Tango Down have very much fallen out of popularity. I haven’t looked for a full size MLOK VFG, but I can’t recall seeing one lately.
I have used several for picatinny rails in the past and they were abundant and cheap but apparently not so when it comes to the m-lok flavor. What pisses me off about amazon is that when I look for a m-lok forgrip it shows me lots of grips that are clearly NOT m-lok and a boatload of stuff that is not even a grip at all (ear muffs? Really?).
 
I have used several for picatinny rails in the past and they were abundant and cheap but apparently not so when it comes to the m-lok flavor. What pisses me off about amazon is that when I look for a m-lok forgrip it shows me lots of grips that are clearly NOT m-lok and a boatload of stuff that is not even a grip at all (ear muffs? Really?).
Well your issue with Amazon is more so understanding their anti-gun position and how sellers try to get around it to access the world’s largest marketplace. Sellers usually list gun parts as something completely different, like the laundry basket category or drinking cup category, and are careful not to use gun words that’ll get red flagged. Some manage to get away with it by listing items as for airsoft, but that doesn’t always work.

I dream of the day we can buy a case of ammo from Amazon but I doubt I’ll ever see that day.
 
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Probably? The general consensus nowadays is that lollipop gripping is subpar and a less-efficient way to hold the rifle. It's better to pull into it with thumb over bore for more recoil and muzzle control. It also places your support hand in a better position for light/laser activation.

This is why stubbies exist and have grown in popularity.

Magpul vfg (1-4) and Kac (5) broomhandle pictured. The kac is definitely longer. Ymmv.

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I really like these. They’re more practical than a nub (to me) and nowhere as obtrusive as a full vertical grip.


You can reverse the mount direction too if that feels better to you. I’ve done that a few times. The pieces are modular—so by reverse I mean put the little “trigger” piece up front and turn it to face forward (like a trigger). Then your index finger and grab it and help pull the rifle into your shoulder.
 
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Probably? The general consensus nowadays is that lollipop gripping is subpar and a less-efficient way to hold the rifle. It's better to pull into it with thumb over bore for more recoil and muzzle control. It also places your support hand in a better position for light/laser activation.

This is why stubbies exist and have grown in popularity.

Magpul vfg (1-4) and Kac (5) broomhandle pictured. The kac is definitely longer. Ymmv.

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Thank you for sharing, very iluminating!
 
Thank you for sharing, very iluminating!
Absolutely! I did a little looking, I think the Daniel Defense mlok vertical grip is probably the longest out there. The Magpul is 3 inches, while the DD is 3.3.

That may be the difference between a full grip and not, depending on hand size. That being said, once you try the grip I posted above you probably won't want to go back 😉.
 
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Can you get your whole hand on that? Looks like it's fairly short?
If you have tiny hands, sure. These are the only KAC broomstick type/length MLOK ones I’ve seen. Pricey and probably heavy.

 
Probably? The general consensus nowadays is that lollipop gripping is subpar and a less-efficient way to hold the rifle. It's better to pull into it with thumb over bore for more recoil and muzzle control. It also places your support hand in a better position for light/laser activation.

This is why stubbies exist and have grown in popularity.

Magpul vfg (1-4) and Kac (5) broomhandle pictured. The kac is definitely longer. Ymmv.

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Humor me is the military using the same grip? I always thought one advantage of the longer foregrip was to get your hand away from the handguard that tends to get hot if a lot of rounds are fired?
 
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Humor me is the military using the same grip? I always thought one advantage of the long grip was to get your hand away from the handguard that tends to get hot if a lot of rounds are fired?
I’m sure some may still use that grip. But if you look at guys like GBRS (ex DevGru), they use more of the c-clamp grip that is now the “norm”.

No elite dudes use that old school grip that I’ve seen in a while. Some don’t even use VFGs but just hand stops.

You can use goon tape, gloves, or rail wraps to mitigate heat.
 
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Humor me is the military using the same grip? I always thought one advantage of the longer foregrip was to get your hand away from the handguard that tends to get hot if a lot of rounds are fired?
I'm sure Kac's are still in rotation some places, but a lot of the setups seen lately forego a vfg for a hand stop or just a clean bottom rail.

Vfgs work for me though. I've tried slick, angles grips, etc. and I always come back to a tasteful vfg.
 
Humor me is the military using the same grip? I always thought one advantage of the longer foregrip was to get your hand away from the handguard that tends to get hot if a lot of rounds are fired?
Using the military as an example of what to use or not to use is not always a great example. I have ran a few ranges and have seen dudes still using the chicken wing technique with rifles, shooting pistols with the mag placed into the palm, and a lot of equipment is either cheap or unnecessary.

The guys I see who tend to shoot more either run magpul afg, stubby grips like the bcm mentioned earlier (I run it), or use the KAC grips but in the modified c grip handstop manner showed earlier.
 
Using the military as an example of what to use or not to use is not always a great example. I have ran a few ranges and have seen dudes still using the chicken wing technique with rifles, shooting pistols with the mag placed into the palm, and a lot of equipment is either cheap or unnecessary.

The guys I see who tend to shoot more either run magpul afg, stubby grips like the bcm mentioned earlier (I run it), or use the KAC grips but in the modified c grip handstop manner showed earlier.
Oh no, I was not suggesting to copy their methods, in this case it was pure curiosity. I never have the problem that I mag dump hundreds of rounds in a firefight so heat would not be an issue for me anyway.
 
Oh no, I was not suggesting to copy their methods, in this case it was pure curiosity. I never have the problem that I mag dump hundreds of rounds in a firefight so heat would not be an issue for me anyway.
You'd be surprised what a 100-round count 2/3 gun match can do for heat. Don't mean to talk down to you if you've already experienced it, and of course it's no "firefight," but a good few dozen rounds down the barrel can easily start to become too hot to put your hand near.
 
You'd be surprised what a 100-round count 2/3 gun match can do for heat. Don't mean to talk down to you if you've already experienced it, and of course it's no "firefight," but a good few dozen rounds down the barrel can easily start to become too hot to put your hand near.
Still not an issue for me since I am just a casual plinker not a competition shooter. My range sessons only see heat issues during summer. I do believe you, of course.
 
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