New P365 Chambered in .380 ACP announced

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SIG SAUER Announces a New P365 Chambered in .380 ACP - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ SIG SAUER is pleased to bring a new caliber to the award winning P365 series of pistols. The long awaited P365 chambered in 380 is finally here – creating a new, softer shooting experience for an easier handling micro-compact option for everyday carry. “The SIG...
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* The P365-380 uses the same grip module and fire control unit as the legacy P365 with a lightened slide, a 380 barrel, and a lighter recoil spring
* optic-ready stainless-steel slide with Nitron finish
* dovetail SIGLITE night sights
* 10+1 capacity
* also available with a manual safety
* ships with (2) ten-round magazines
* Overall length: 5.8 inches
* Overall height: 4.2 inches
* Overall width: 1.0 inches (1.1 inches w/manual safety)
* Barrel length: 3.1 inches
* Sight Radius: 4.9 inches
* Weight (w/magazine): 15.7 oz.
* Price: $499.99
 
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some_kid6 said:
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SIG SAUER Announces a New P365 Chambered in .380 ACP - The Truth About Guns

&#9664Previous Post Next Post▶ SIG SAUER is pleased to bring a new caliber to the award winning P365 series of pistols. The long awaited P365 chambered in 380 is finally here – creating a new, softer shooting experience for an easier handling micro-compact option for everyday carry. “The SIG...
www.thetruthaboutguns.com www.thetruthaboutguns.com

* The P365-380 uses the same grip module and fire control unit as the legacy P365 with a lightened slide, a 380 barrel, and a lighter recoil spring
* optic-ready stainless-steel slide with Nitron finish
* dovetail SIGLITE night sights
* 10+1 capacity
* also available with a manual safety
* ships with (2) ten-round magazines
* Overall length: 5.8 inches
* Overall height: 4.2 inches
* Overall width: 1.0 inches (1.1 inches w/manual safety)
* Barrel length: 3.1 inches
* Sight Radius: 4.9 inches
* Weight (w/magazine): 15.7 oz.
* Price: $499.99
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I suppose if there is a market for a .380 carbine, you would have a market for this. But it is a backwards step....

Hopefully its still a locked breach pistol and not a blow back conversion.
 
Yeah, I’m baffled by this. Most people I know who are bug fans of the 365 bought it specifically because it was a small higher capacity >9mm< and not a .380.

You get the same gun, but with a weaker and more expensive ammo.


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I have an LCP-C I take with me on runs and I'm even embarrassed when I carry it.

Maybe it's that weird old crowd that has some deep rooted infatuation with tiny pistols. The guys that still refuse to part with their Seecamp .32 in their Miami crossdraw holster that they muzzle sweep everyone with when they draw.

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I currently have a P365 and my wife has a G42. They are exactly the same size so for me it makes sense to drop the g42 and pick up a p365 in .380. I wish they would release a .22 caliber x-change kit as well so I could use this small pistol to train my kids instead of a different platform. A5167184-C3E8-4BEB-9EBA-69A7BFD5A9E0.jpegDE321790-B748-4CA2-8FAF-2D8DB33145CF.jpeg
 
FYI, externally they are the same. In one of the Sig announcements they said it is compatible with all standard P365 holsters.
 
I've got a female friend who is recoil averse. Small 9mm makes her flinch. .380 might not be ideal, but it's better than nothing if she carries it.
This gun is one of several on the market that people need to recognize as not intended for them and move on.
 
They’re going for the female market as supposedly it’s the fastest growing segment of firearm’s ownership.

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BatteryOaksBilly said:
WOW!!! I've been carrying 2 Ruger Maxs with 26 rounds on board since they came out...100 gr solids at 1,000 fps. They are smaller and lighter than the 365s, of which I carried 2 for a few years. They cost $325 when I got them...BUT after reading all this...I'm Afraid to leave the house with them, Y'all really scared me with how weak they are.....Funny...when I leave today, they'll be in my pockets and I won't feel Under Gunned or Under Manned should I need them. But I'm Old...so whatta I know????

Smart Man

Perfect

And finally^^^^a man that knows what Going Armed means.

In addition to the 2 Maxs I carry daily, I have a LCP in .22 to practice with.........................How silly I must seem........
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I never said they are weak. I said they are weaker, which is true.


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BatteryOaksBilly said:
Sir...YOU are incapable of triggering me Period.....I simply am satisfied with the ballistics of the .380. You must require more. Your turn.
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Considering I carry a .380 daily, I’m fine with it. However if the exact same firearm could hold the exact same amount of 9mm I would carry that. This isn’t about machismo, it’s about the best tool for the job. That is the topic at discussion here. Not an attack on the validity of the .380.


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BatteryOaksBilly said:
Colonel Jeff Cooper with a Masters in History said the most dangerous man to ever walk the North American continent was James Butler Hickock...He use a gun that shot an 80 grain bullet at 800 fps and was quite capable. As usual the shootER is more important than the weapon. You obvious need "more". I will defer to your great firearms and ballistic knowledge. Sunce you have So much to offer please, reply. With personal knowledge perhaps....that's what counts Most with real SHOOTERS.
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Brother, you are all up in arms over nothing. I haven’t claimed ballistic expertise. I haven’t claimed to be a tier one shooter. I’ve made none of those claims. I don’t >need< more. But I’m not going to turn down more when it’s offered in the exact same package with the exact same capacity. That is the discussion we are having.

The truth is most people choose 9mm over .380 for many reasons. And with all due respect to Mr. Hickock I would hazard to say if he had what we have available to us today he wouldn’t opt for what he carried. And again, while I am not a ballistics expert/Uber operator gunfighter guy, I have yet to find anyone who chooses .380 as a primary go-to caliber. Even ol’Cooper carried heavier selection.

Again, no one is saying .380 isn’t an effective round. .380 is great. Even .22 kills bucket loads of people. What we are saying is “Why carry a weaker round that is more expensive when you can carry something cheaper, more abundant and easy to find, possibly more “effective” in a platform that is the exact same size?” Recoil management is really the main reason anyone has come up with.

And, to repeat again since you missed it: I carry a .380 every day. But I purchased it because of utility of the platform, not efficacy of the round. If I didn’t think it would do it’s job, I wouldn’t carry it.


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BatteryOaksBilly said:
We are spending all day tomorrow with folks traveling to take part in lengthy tests on pressures in commercial and "boutique" loadings in 9mm. When we are finished we will have reems of data that heretofore didn't exist. When we come to conclusions it is Not what we read, heard or "thought". It is derived from hours spent in the Lab and on the Range from personal knowledge and money and equipment used. There will Never be a pissing contest between us about the effectiveness of Any firearm.
We are on 9 different sections of Cartridges of the World and mentioned in the preface. I'll check and see where You are listed....pissing contest indeed......about firearms...........I know....Let's have a spelling contest...
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Again: please note anywhere at any time I have even remotely claimed expertise in any field at any time. Or made any claims at all to being such.

But please, keep moving the goal posts and arguing things that have never been mentioned.

And please answer this after your extensive research and exhaustive testing why a .380 in the exact same pistol would be a superior choice to a 9mm.

Being petty doesn’t suit you Billy. I thought we were better friends than this.


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BatteryOaksBilly said:
Why?
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Because of our multiple conversations at Chad’s, our multiple conversations here, my multiple invitations to your facility, because of years being acquainted here on the forum.

I guess I was wrong, it’s all apparently nothing compared to a disagreement in one thread.


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BatteryOaksBilly said:
WOW!!! I've been carrying 2 Ruger Maxs with 26 rounds on board since they came out...100 gr solids at 1,000 fps. They are smaller and lighter than the 365s, of which I carried 2 for a few years. They cost $325 when I got them...BUT after reading all this...I'm Afraid to leave the house with them, Y'all really scared me with how weak they are.....Funny...when I leave today, they'll be in my pockets and I won't feel Under Gunned or Under Manned should I need them. But I'm Old...so whatta I know????

Smart Man

Perfect

And finally^^^^a man that knows what Going Armed means.

In addition to the 2 Maxs I carry daily, I have a LCP in .22 to practice with.........................How silly I must seem........There is a Major Flaw that I have noticed on the 2 I have.........The magazine releases are too prominent...with normal daily use and 12 rounds loaded, the mags Can eject in your pocket.....Major Problem...down loading 1 helps [less pressure on mag]. I might have to take some off the release...we'll see.
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Oh no, you misunderstand me... Im saying from a design standpoint its a step back.

.380 is fine as a small defense round, on occasion I've been known to carry a glock 42....

If they are going to do it, BUILD it around the round. MAKE it something other then a lesser rechamber.

The 365 is so very, very small for a 9mm, and that is its strength, the fact it is already the size of previous .380 handguns and retains good capacity of a more potent round.

Its like riping out a v6 or v8 engine and replacing it with a 4 cylinder.

I feel this is lazy design by SIG. Heck someone mentioned a .22 kit? Why not. That makes sense for practice or even use as something of a kit gun. Why not a "longslide" kit? Something like a 5in slide and barrel for its native 9mm?

As you said, the Max is already an excellent example of a .380 with size and capacity that makes sense...


If they wanted they could have further reduced the grip circumference to match the .380's oal, and likely slightly reduced other dimensions aswell to make it ever so slightly smaller ala glock 42 vs 43, and it would have made more sense to me.
 
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BatteryOaksBilly said:
I've been to Chad's once...and had a great time

I have no memory of a PM from me to you Ever....BUT I just sent what will be my first and last

There are oceans of difference between acquaintances and Friends.

At least I got you you type 4 words you have never typed before.
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I’m starting to really think you have been hacked or something.


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BatteryOaksBilly said:
Why?
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B00ger said:
Because of our multiple conversations at Chad’s, our multiple conversations here, my multiple invitations to your facility, because of years being acquainted here on the forum.

I guess I was wrong, it’s all apparently nothing compared to a disagreement in one thread.


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That’s enough. Both of you. Don’t be the reason a simple thread gets locked, or timeouts get handed out. Too windy today for a pissing match like my friend @Jeppo said
 
Desolo said:
Oh no, you misunderstand me... Im saying from a design standpoint its a step back.

.380 is fine as a small defense round, on occasion I've been known to carry a glock 42....

If they are going to do it, BUILD it around the round. MAKE it something other then a lesser rechamber.

The 365 is so very, very small for a 9mm, and that is its strength, the fact it is already the size of previous .380 handguns and retains good capacity of a more potent round.

Its like riping out a v6 or v8 engine and replacing it with a 4 cylinder.

I feel this is lazy design by SIG. Heck someone mentioned a .22 kit? Why not. That makes sense for practice or even use as something of a kit gun. Why not a "longslide" kit? Something like a 5in slide and barrel for its native 9mm?

As you said, the Max is already an excellent example of a .380 with size and capacity that makes sense...


If they wanted they could have further reduced the grip circumference to match the .380's oal, and likely slightly reduced other dimensions aswell to make it ever so slightly smaller ala glock 42 vs 43, and it would have made more sense to me.
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Consider it differently. By keeping the same dimensions as the 9mm all existing accessories already work with the new .380 version. It also simplifies the manufacturing and part skus to keep on hand. That's a play that saves Sig money while releasing a new gun. Not lazy design, it's smart.
 
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