NCLivingBrit
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2A Bourbon Hound 2024
2A Bourbon Hound OG
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I love a stumpy shotgun.
I love a stumpy shotgun.
Very nice. Short and sweet. Would love to do that to one of my pumps. How much is a Form 1?
The type of firearm has nothing to do with it. All Form 1 submissions are $200.Thx, same as an sbr. Might be something I’ll do in 2024.
FWIW…all Form 4 transfers are also $200, except for AOWs, which are $5.
All of THAT, and then you Holosun me???? Bro! 😅Massive shout-out to @CountrySide Gunsmithing for helping me with my first machine gun purchase and then putting together an e2 stock. (Btw don't buy sarco knockoffs)
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The only people I've ever had criticize it are people on the Internet who do not own machine guns. I said what I said. 😤All of THAT, and then you Holosun me???? Bro! 😅
Just joshing with you dude. 😅The only people I've ever had criticize it are people on the Internet who do not own machine guns. I said what I said. 😤
Jeremy at countryside did the thing and basically found the pieces and the firearm. All I did was provide the money. They did phenomenal. Appreciate the praise anyways.Just joshing with you dude. 😅
That E2 setup is breathtaking. Love it.
The only people I've ever had criticize it are people on the Internet who do not own machine guns. I said what I said. 😤
You craftily got me there...lol. 😅It looks great it's just missing a holosun then it would be perfect.
I've been contemplating an m2 as my next firearm. Fear of ammo, parts, and supposed running issues is driving me away. Please let me know how you're enjoying it once you have it.Right there with you. I have Holosuns on several of the uppers for my M10/9 and M11/380. They work well and hold zero even getting banged on in full-auto. I have a Holosun on the M1 Carbine I have waiting (not patiently) for the NFA Branch to approve the M2 kit I bought last fall. I'm sure it will survive .30 Carbine on full-auto. I'm not sure my wallet will be able to survive the same.
I've shot a full-auto M14. It was a beast. Your gun looks awesome, congratulations!
Amen! We had some M14s in inventory for a few years (courtesy of NC DPS LESS) and while most were semi-auto, there was one or two that were fully auto. I tried a magazine in fully automatic, limiting it to 3-4-5 round bursts. On that same range date, the son of the Chief (mid-to-late teens) was present and wanted to fire one. The firearms staff approved this and accompanied him to the line. Our range in is a valley, and has a HIGH berm (probably 200 feet or more prominence from the range / valley floor). He held the trigger and the rounds "walked" all the way up the berm (and I'm not wanting to commit that the last few were not over - 😬 -FORTUNATELY toward swampy river land).I've shot a full-auto M14. It was a beast. Your gun looks awesome, congratulations!
I've been contemplating an m2 as my next firearm. Fear of ammo, parts, and supposed running issues is driving me away. Please let me know how you're enjoying it once you have it.
I appreciate the well put together response, it gives me a lot to consider. To be completely honest one thing you mentioned about your own decision making that I had not even factored in mine was "is this different from what I have?". I still hope you update us here once you receive your kit.I think the way to go with a M2 is a registered conversion kit instead of a registered receiver. That is how I went. M1 carbines (and their M2 siblings) are in the range of +/- 80 years old. It would suck to end up with a cracked receiver on a $15k registered MG. Fulton Armory makes a new production M1 to original specs that would be a great host. It is expensive, at around $2500, but it won't really be that long before nice GI carbines are knocking on that price door. I was actually considering buying one to use with my M2 kit (I was already spending $13k on the kit, what is another $2500 for the host?). However, I ended up getting a GI Inland M1 from a buddy that I knew ran and it worked perfectly with a kit (dealer has a range luckily).
Parts are still widely available. They made more than 6 million of the guns and lots of spare parts. I wouldn't worry about that, at least compared to a lot of other transferable MGs. Original magazines are pricey (when I started shooting in the early 1990s new in wrap GI 15 round mags were $1 each). However, they are still available. The Keep Shooting and Korean mags seem to work pretty well also (the Keep Shooting ones are better quality IMO). Ammo is available, but it costs about the same as .308/7.62 NATO, or perhaps slightly more depending on the source. I got several thousand rounds in a trade but once that is gone I am either going to have to cry buying ammo or spend a lot of time at the press. Either way it will not be nearly as economical to shoot as my other MGs which use 9mm, .380, .45 ACP, and 5.56 (thank you Mr. Lage).
As for the shooting experience, it is quite something. The M2 is fast, I'd guess around 900 RPM. It is super light, in the 5.5 lb. range. As such, with my limited practice I can't really hold a burst of more than 5 rounds on a steel silhouette at ~25 yards. In comparison, I can hold an entire 71 round drum of 9mm from my M11/380 with a Lage MAX-31k upper on the same target at the same distance. Of course the Lage'd M11 is almost twice the weight as the M2 and shooting 9mm.
I decided on the M2 because it was something different from what I have. At present I have two MACs and I am waiting on transfers for the aforementioned M2 and a BRP Stemple Suomi/U45. I previously owned a STEN Mk.II, a S&W 76 Clone, and a M10/45. I ended up selling those to fund the M2 and BRP. Everything I had previously and still have is an open bolt, pistol caliber, SMG. The M2 is closed bolt, shoots a completely different cartridge, and has completely different character. I probably won't shoot it nearly as much as the SMGs but I am looking forward to being able to have a completely different shooting experience in full-auto as compared to what I have now.
Whatever else the M2 Carbine is, it is huge fun to shoot.
Yeah being a well built 230 lb dude who was prepared for what I thought I was going to experience I could at most get approx 4-5 rounds somewhat on target from 50 yds on auto. Prone with bipod is NP tho.Amen! We had some M14s in inventory for a few years (courtesy of NC DPS LESS) and while most were semi-auto, there was one or two that were fully auto. I tried a magazine in fully automatic, limiting it to 3-4-5 round bursts. On that same range date, the son of the Chief (mid-to-late teens) was present and wanted to fire one. The firearms staff approved this and accompanied him to the line. Our range in is a valley, and has a HIGH berm (probably 200 feet or more prominence from the range / valley floor). He held the trigger and the rounds "walked" all the way up the berm (and I'm not wanting to commit that the last few were not over - 😬 -FORTUNATELY toward swampy river land).
Another time one of our deputies who was a serious shooter and gun buff (who was not a fan of 5.56) berated the Chief Deputy so much about an M14, he was given one (one of the fully automatic ones). He ran this gun like a BOSS and shot expert with it every single qualification, but once on some advanced skills (immediate action drills) he "accidentally" 🤨 ran one stage on automatic. I was not lead instructor that day and in fact had my camera doing stills (NOT a video guy!) He held the trigger too long and from a kneeling position it took him back off his knee... the muzzle climbing to almost about 45 degrees. 😬 I still have the pic-and thank goodness the rounds stayed on the berm as we were close to it.
Those two incidents in the same year closed out the full auto on M14s chapter in our training and use.
I appreciate the well put together response, it gives me a lot to consider. To be completely honest one thing you mentioned about your own decision making that I had not even factored in mine was "is this different from what I have?". I still hope you update us here once you receive your kit.
Golly gee gotta admit I've wanted an Uzi for that reason and the famous pic of the SS Agent at the Reagan assassination attempt (and aside from it being one of the most reliable respected SMGs in the history of the planet, and all it did for the Israelis). How affordably can a fellow get into one of those through NFA processes? Scared to ask but it's probably less than I'm thinking. I wouldn't care about make or provenance as long as it's reliable and safe. Had a little open bolt experience back in the 80s.
Thanks for the quick reply.Last I checked Uzis were running $15-$20k, depending on registered bolt vs. receiver, IMI conversion vs. factory FA Vector/Group Industries. That is for the full-size gun (definitely the most iconic, most shootable, and probably most reliable). Add an additional $15-$20k for a registered Mini or Micro.
FWIW, my M10/9 has a Uzi magwell conversion. That definitely doesn't make it an Uzi, but it does mean I can use Uzi mags which are much better than any of the original MAC 9mm mag choices. With the Lage MAX-9 9mm upper it turns it into "The Uzi we have at home."
Man who do you know that has uzi's like that? I need to know that guy too. Looks nice, what are they going for these days?Got this NIB unfired Vector Uzi over the weekend. I already have a Micro Uzi and this same guy that I got the full size from, has a Mini. So now I'm going to convince him to sell me that one as well, so I can have the whole family.
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Man who do you know that has uzi's like that? I need to know that guy too. Looks nice, what are they going for these days?
Who the heck are you lol. That's some serious dough to be throwing around and some specific taste. But I guess I can understand that. I find my taste continuously evolve into the more niche direction.
Are you looking to adopt any adult children by any chance? 👋 😂I'm just some guy whose always admired highend and rare guns. Built up a network over the past two decades dealing with highend dealers. Career wise I'm an inventor who does around 10-15 patents a year, mostly in lighting, supply chain, medical and laboratory devices. One of my main inventions was the machine that ruptures blood cells to do DNA/RNA extraction. I designed it for Abbott, which at the time (2011-15) was developing the Iridica system, later to be commonly known as the PCR test. Without that machine, the test would not be possible. Its one of the 7 critical devices needed. I got domestic and international patents on carrige design that allows the machine to opperate at 450G's without selfdestructing. The FDA in Europe is much more laxed and granted approval in 2017 wheres they delayed in the US. When covid hit the first thing the GOV did was expidite the FDA approvals purposely for this. I had bugged out with a bunch of guns to one of my mountain homes, but 2-3 days after bugging out the Gov called and asked if I would assist them if any issues arise. I said sure, but they never contacted me again. I felt like I was Jason Bourne or something. I should of played the part, smoking a cigarette and told them in a deep raspy voice: "I dont make blood cell ruptor machines anymore, that part of me died years ago.... "
Are you looking to adopt any adult children by any chance? 👋 😂