Scanning thru the for sale thread and saw a pistol of interest but then realized it was not optic ready. It has me wondering what the consumer attitude is. Feel free to leave comments!
Optics ready-now standard on all pistols?
- Thread starter keepcalmandcarryon
- Start date
- Replies 28
- Views 613
Unless the front sight is yuge, I can’t see it.
The dot’s a big deal with old man eyes.
The dot’s a big deal with old man eyes.
I think the bottom option is the only possible one. The “it depends on use case” option…
I think optics capability is important. If I was trying a new doublestack of some kind, I would demand the ability to mount a dot from factory. I would assume the optics version would hold value better than an irons-only version if things did not work out.
That need does not extend to pocket pistols (snubs or autos), vintage/collector items, guns for metallic sight competitions, or blackpowder pistols.
I think optics capability is important. If I was trying a new doublestack of some kind, I would demand the ability to mount a dot from factory. I would assume the optics version would hold value better than an irons-only version if things did not work out.
That need does not extend to pocket pistols (snubs or autos), vintage/collector items, guns for metallic sight competitions, or blackpowder pistols.
Don't usually care. If I was buying something for an optics division, needs to be optics ready. Anything else no price premium, sure. I have no plans of slapping more bulk and maintenance on anything I expect to carry or have function after years of neglect.
RDS and WML are standard gear in the year of our Lord 2023.
The WML is slightly more important for me. Half your life is spent in darkness and the Moore country power attacks only helped justify it.
The WML is slightly more important for me. Half your life is spent in darkness and the Moore country power attacks only helped justify it.
Optics only purchases for me these days, but my old non-optic cut guns aren't going anywhere.
I think the platform / mounting system matters here. Eg I’m not convinced the adapter plates are the best solution (extra points of failure!) but I don’t have firsthand experience with them and most of what I’ve heard is about the MOS cut. I just bought a new pistol and plan to send it to get the slide cut for the exact footprint I need. Irritating but I guess I’ve heard enough “and then my dot flew off!” horror stories to decide that is worth the ridiculous cost and hassle.
So I plan to have an optic on this pistol but also explicitly sought out a non optic ready model.
So I plan to have an optic on this pistol but also explicitly sought out a non optic ready model.
OP
I agree about the mounting plates. I went with the Holosun SCS which mounts directly to the MOS slide cut. 1,000+ rounds and still solid.
DrScaryGuy
🌈 Loves rainbows 🌈
2A Bourbon Hound 2024
2A Bourbon Hound OG
Supporting Member
Multi-Factor Enabled
i like optics on pistols, but it's not a necessity. there's always some form of upgrade if i want.
plus, the NEXT pistol i buy might be 90 years old or something. never know.
plus, the NEXT pistol i buy might be 90 years old or something. never know.
I have a dot on my 22 target pistol but I don't want anything new fangled on my carry gun, at least yet. I like KISS.
I absolutely see the appeal… a friend went this route while I’m looking at shipping off the slide etc and man it was just so easy. He got the pistol and optic and just mounted it!
I shot his pistol and it seems to work nicely. But I decided I’d prefer red not green and I found the auto adjust settings too bright. I think you could hit a button and make it get brighter but I wanted to turn it down a notch or two. I know guys with high round counts have been happy but I was also concerned with putting all the force of the recoil on the screws and I was concerned that on something aimed at carry the charging might not work out since it might not be exposed to enough light. So I decided to go a different direction but I’m still not confident that was the right call. The MOS+SCS would definitely have been cheaper and so much less hassle to get going…
I just got my first pistol that is optics ready and I didnt even know it was coming that way. Shield+. Not sure how effective or practical a red dot would be on that gun but would like to try it. Problem with optics ready pistols right now is the increased cost. About $100 premium. I shot a 38 Super with a giant red bull can Aimpoint way back in the day and when all the open shooters went C-more, I did too and that was a learning curve. You had to put in some time and ammo to where you could bring the gun up out of your holster and find the dot every time without hesitation.
I posted the Youtube video of the ESPN Colt Pro Shootout from 1994 in the Jim Scoutten thread. I didn't see a single pistol without an optic that match from almost 30 years ago. That should be telling me something with my aging eyes, trying to shoot faster using irons. A lot of my more recent purchases are optic-ready, not necessarily on purpose, but they just came that way.
OP
With almost every pistol now being offered as optics ready, and usually for about the same price, why not? I have a dot on my shot gun, a dot on my AK & a dot on my 22 plinker. Might as well have one on my carry gun, too.
Basically yes. I don't care to run a gun without an optic. With EDC pistols I'm expecting it to have the RMSc Shield footprint so I can put a Holosun 507K or EPS on it. For full size I'm really expecting RMR footprint, so if it isn't optics ready it suddenly becomes a matter of how expensive it will be to direct mill an RMR cutout on that pistol. That's money I'm sure I would never get back, so I'd rather it come that way to begin with, or at least use an optic mounting system that's secure and reliable out of the box. With revolvers I can get over just using irons, but even on those I'd rather run a dot if at all possible.
I expect optics-ready to become the standard for new guns, if it is not already. I also expect hefty discounts when I buy used guns that are not optics-ready.
Lots of opinions but for the most part - i am only going to buy something that is optic ready. Why should i need to have a gunsmith mill the slide potentially voiding my warranties and costing me more money and time
I will continue to buy classics of course that fall outside of this, but newer guns …
I will continue to buy classics of course that fall outside of this, but newer guns …
I don't think I'll be jumping on the EDC/RDS bandwagon any time soon, and most of the stuff I buy is carry-oriented - but the electronic sights have their place.
If I run out of projects, I may get one to play around with.
If I run out of projects, I may get one to play around with.
Personally would have to have more time with optics on my handguns as I have only has the Sig p365 xl with the Sig Romeo on from factory. Definitely see it becoming standard in the next few years though.