That is not going to happen. You agreed to the terms and conditions when you signed up. You agree to updated to that terms of service whenever they issue them. They expanded this beyond just business accounts a while ago.Yeah, I hope they lose their ass on it. The penalty fee is supposedly only for "commercial accounts" but they've been yanking from anyone they can, it's virtue signaling and cash grab pure and simple. Hopefully the class action suit can pile on the charges, loss of revenue, impact to sales, lost investment opportunity with the seized cash, etc.
Putting terms in pages and pages of fine print legalese when it is completely understood that nobody reads them is not really agreement. I believe there was even some sort of legal case about this over software EULA agreements and forcing people to agree to ridiculous terms after they bought the product was no bueno.That is not going to happen. You agreed to the terms and conditions when you signed up. You agree to updated to that terms of service whenever they issue them. They expanded this beyond just business accounts a while ago.
Putting terms in pages and pages of fine print legalese when it is completely understood that nobody reads them is not really agreement. I believe there was even some sort of legal case about this over software EULA agreements and forcing people to agree to ridiculous terms after they bought the product was no bueno.
Similarly changing the terms and making it a unilateral ultimatum after they have your money is likewise not agreement.
Next thing you’ll see will be PP crying about their property rights.
It is not buried in the terms and conditions that you cannot use it to buy guns or ammo. It is also explicit that using no fee F&F to pay for items is not allowed. People did it and continue to do it because they think there is no consequences but they cry when their money gets locked up.
The solution is simple don’t use their service and if you do don’t use it knowingly in violation of their terms of service agreement. I personally stopped using them for anything firearms related and almost never use them in general because there are other ways to accomplish the same thing without the hassle.
Then there are the times they lock your account because they think you violated their terms, you answer their request for info showing you didn’t violate their terms, they ignore your additional info, won’t answer your emails or calls, and they just keep your money….
They can’t catch everyone every time but this is far from a conspiracy.bought a shotty on smith forums using PP from a PP member on the forums no problem...... 2 weeks ago
seems a lot of people looking for a PP conspiracy.........but carry on...
the sky is falling
Getting caught.Several reloading businesses use PayPal to pay for bullets and powder. Where are the boundaries?
if a person, in their opinion, breaks the terms of service and uses Paypal for gun stuff (that's undefined) or other things they don't approve of they'll take all your money held in an account with them as a fine for having broken the agreement. They're not good about telling you what you allegedly did either.What's their justification?
if a person, in their opinion, breaks the terms of service and uses Paypal for gun stuff (that's undefined) or other things they don't approve of they'll take all your money held in an account with them as a fine for having broken the agreement. They're not good about telling you what you allegedly did either.
Justification? For damages of course. I sold something they didn't agree with, gladly took their percentage of fees for the sale and then banned me and stole my money. I know I'm never going to see it based on the screaming 20 min phone call I just had. It's just wrong.