Question about NC titles when privately buying or selling vehicles

[fieldgrade]

By NC law, what your doing is illegal, like it or not. Matter of fact IIRC if you don’t put the title of a vehicle you purchased in your name within a certain number of days you can/could be charged with a misdemeanor and fined.

Again, it’s a called jumping title.

There’s never a problem, until there is.

After several discussions with the DMV in Raleigh a few years ago, and an attorney, I have to concur.

 

[BrettB]

Respectfully disagree. Only sellers signature Needs to be notarized and what they are actually affirming is the mileage disclosure.
The local BB&T notarized title for the last vehicle I sold, at the drive thru, while the buyer was on his way to get the car.
Notaries may not want to stamp a seller only title but that’s not the law.

I am not an expert - only repeating what I was told when I recently sold a motorcycle. The buyer contacted me and the UPS store said we both had to be present- big pain

 

[Gator]

This has been mentioned a time or two in the thread and here is the question that pops up in my mind.
Would a notary (who is willing to do that) stamp and sign a title that has been filled out with buyer and sellers name, even if the seller is the only party present?

When I sold car back in March the notary at the UPS store told me my signature had to be notarized and the buyers name ( not signature ) had to be filled in at that time. I was trying to get this done ahead of time just to save some time for the buyer. Notary told me I could fill in his name, he did not need to be present. I passed because I did not know his full legal name, the way he would enter it on the title.

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[Chriselalto]

After several discussions with the DMV in Raleigh a few years ago, and an attorney, I have to concur.

And see, I learned something. I honestly did not know that. I was told a number of years ago from a registration office, that if the bill of sale was from the original seller, it was legit. And that a bill of sale from the 2nd seller was needed as well. There could have been miscommunications in the discussion as to my intent of the question, or the person fully understanding what I was talking about and telling me it's never enforced in single private party sales. In dealerships, I fully expect that practice to be excluded.

 

[LeeMajors]

And see, I learned something. I honestly did not know that. I was told a number of years ago from a registration office, that if the bill of sale was from the original seller, it was legit. And that a bill of sale from the 2nd seller was needed as well. There could have been miscommunications in the discussion as to my intent of the question, or the person fully understanding what I was talking about and telling me it's never enforced in single private party sales. In dealerships, I fully expect that practice to be excluded.

The new "laws" are a recent addition

 

[johnnyb]

Respectfully disagree. Only sellers signature Needs to be notarized and what they are actually affirming is the mileage disclosure.
The local BB&T notarized title for the last vehicle I sold, at the drive thru, while the buyer was on his way to get the car.
Notaries may not want to stamp a seller only title but that’s not the law.

Yep, went through this as the buyer, as a lifelong resident of SC buying a NC titled truck this seemed like BS to me but we went through the drive through at the Waxhaw BB&T me driving and him in the passenger seat, handed over his NCDL and the title he had already signed, she looked at them signed, dated and stamped it and handed it back. She neither asked for my ID nor asked me to sign the title.

 

[NC Boy Scout]

Yep, went through this as the buyer, as a lifelong resident of SC buying a NC titled truck this seemed like BS to me but we went through the drive through at the Waxhaw BB&T me driving and him in the passenger seat, handed over his NCDL and the title he had already signed, she looked at them signed, dated and stamped it and handed it back. She neither asked for my ID nor asked me to sign the title.

I use the Waxhaw BBT as well

 

[P01135809]

I understand that the buyer must apply for a new title within 28 days…https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/BySection/Chapter_20/GS_20-73.pdf

But nobody here has provided evidence that it is illegal for the seller to have a signed notarized open title. Or that it is illegal for the notary to do so.

Only the seller’s name is “notarized” on the title. I’m hearing “norms” and “best practices” but nobody has shown me the statute. Show me the money!!!!