Russian 6.02x41 cartridge

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https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...rtridge-and-prototype-rifles-ak-22-mini-svch/

The Russians are working on a 6.02x41mm round to replace the 7.62 and 5.45mm rounds in service

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Always a good idea to add more small arms ammo types you have to deal with in your iffy logistics chain to go with the two you mentioned, 7.62x54r, 9x39 plus whatever the WW2/Cold War stuff they're taking out of mothballs needs. In the middle of a bogged down war that's showing the paucity of your supply chain.

If they'd actually issue everyone the new thing it would make sense, but they always half arse it and just dribble out enough for show and tell.
 
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A you tube video I watched on the cartridge said that motivation for its development is the same as the 6.8; body armor penetration.
 
NCLivingBrit said:
Always a good idea to add more small arms ammo types you have to deal with in your iffy logistics chain to go with the two you mentioned, 7.62x54r, 9x39 plus whatever the WW2/Cold War stuff they're taking out of mothballs needs. In the middle of a bogged down war that's showing the paucity of your supply chain.

If they'd actually issue everyone the new thing it would make sense, but they always half arse it and just dribble out enough for show and tell.
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Hey, there's Russia smart, then there's Axis smart.
All three, Germany, Italy, Japan, tried to change both their rifle and cartridge either just before, or during WW2. 😂
 
pinkbunny said:
Hey, there's Russia smart, then there's Axis smart.
All three, Germany, Italy, Japan, tried to change both their rifle and cartridge either just before, or during WW2. 😂
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Apparently they started working on a replacement for the STG44 before it even got to the field in any significant quantity. Madness. Forgotten weapons had a good video comparing the primary semi auto rifles used in WW2. The Americans got the Garand where they wanted it and just kept making it the same, barring some very minor production speed enhancements that didn't really change the rifle. They did some tinkering into changes and a magazine fed model, but it was just that, tinkering. Not meant for mass production.

I never really thought about that, but it makes a lot more sense if you have the production might like the US did to make it good enough and then crank them out. Much like the Sherman. Not the best, but they have a dozen for every "better" enemy tank. And a vastly simplified logistics tail because you aren't supporting multiple tanks with multiple variants and with design flaws that eat components because envelopes got pushed too far in a mass produced model.
 
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NCLivingBrit said:
Apparently they started working on a replacement for the STG44 before it even got to the field in any significant quantity. Madness.
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German logistics and priorities were completely screwed up during WW2. They wasted time on dead-end weapons systems, continued to make expensive munitions like torpedos in massive quantities when their submarine fleet was completely neutralized, and built huge numbers of aircraft in 44 and 45 when there was no fuel and no pilots meanwhile riflemen on the line had 5 rounds only in their pouch. It wasn't until Speer got manufacturing under control that they went on a total war footing for production and by then fortunately it was too late for them.
 
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