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To make a vaccine, one uses either a weakened version of a pathogen, which the body can create antibodies for.... or, in later versions, antibodies the body "normally" produces to fight, tricking the body into thinking the pathogen is inside, causing more antibody production. That is the basic theory of vaccines, with various twists.

The vaccine for Covid (all of them, there are a few) all rely on what are called "spike proteins" and are injected in fairly large quantities in the body in order to prompt antibody production. Nothing new here. This is normal vaccine stuff (although the M-RNA synthesis of this is new and untested waters... but that is not the issue here).

What is just scary as hell is this report, from the head of cancer research at Brown University https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.04.12.589252v1. Pretty conclusive evidence that the spike proteins in the vaccine are extremely effective in shutting down gene p53 in cells, which is the body's main suppressor gene for cancer, allowing the body to fight, kill and expel cancer cells (which everyone has... the difference between someone who "has cancer" and someone "cancer free" is the body's ability to mount an immune defense vs cells that overwhelm that defense).

I have been hearing rumors of logarithmic rises in cancer, and especially extremely aggressive strains, called "turbo cancer" in common parlance. I have refrained from citing or posting that stuff, as the internet is full of rumor mongering wild irresponsible claims.
However, this gets my attention.

If the medical/pharmaceutical industry is responsible for a mass medical experiment with no clinical trials beforehand which winds up killing millions of people with induced cancer, then hell has no depths deep enough for such evil. This is a very very serious report.

Come, Lord Jesus, and set us free from these fools and monsters.
 
tanstaafl72555 said:
If the medical/pharmaceutical industry is responsible for a mass medical experiment with no clinical trials beforehand which winds up killing millions of people with induced cancer, then hell has no depths deep enough for such evil. This is a very very serious report.
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Rember Cancer is very profitable & can enrich Drs. & Big Pharma.



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Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia

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Medical experimentation in Africa - Wikipedia

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Marturo said:
Rember Cancer is very profitable & can enrich Drs. & Big Pharma.
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until it collapses the insurance system
then we will need that universal insurance so that the companies can decide who gets treatment and how much.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
until it collapses the insurance system
then we will need that universal insurance so that the companies can decide who gets treatment and how much.
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unless the new cancer they created is so effective it kills you before the medical industrial complex has to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars in treatment. just drain your wallet in that initial treatment push (where you have to pay out of pocket before insurance kicks in)
 
If you just follow normal news both national and local; it is pretty clear something is going on and it coincides with the mass "vaccinations" of the spike protein RNA shots.
1. Insurance companies prepared Wall Street that they had about a 3% delta INCREASE in deaths starting in 2022. This was my first inclination something is not right,
2. Notice the Athletes dropping during practice, games and life -- people at the top of health succumb to a cardiac event, stroke or clot.
3. I personally have several friends and family members battling cancer that "doesn't fit" the genetic, age, and lifestyle profiles.
4. Single RNA reactions in mass populations, on just the merits, is a BAD IDEA. My college roommate does this for genetic defects to reduce lifetime costs of healthcare; SPECIFIC to the patient.

Finally, I have personally seen my Dad (currently 89) go down hill after receiving the 2nd Moderna Shot. Slow, Joint Pain, Blood Sugar issues; he even stopped playing golf as his body will just not do what he wants it too. This isn't just old-age.. it literally was Pre- Post- ... that frickin quick.

My wife got the shots, as was mandated by her work. I constantly have a gut-wrenching feeling in my intuition that she is going to be diagnosed with Cancer. Her dad passed away 8 years ago with Sarcoma and her phenotype characteristics would infer a genetic lean to her paternal side.

Fauci, The 3rd Party Resarcher, and the UNC Doctor ALL were involved with Wuhan Gain of Function testing in order to combat the next SARS virus. The problem is that the Chinese DO NOT have an understanding of Control, Continuous Improvement, or Proper Diligence in ANY FIELD. Those people will cut corners, reduce costs, and skip protocols on every action whether it is a cheap toy ... or RNA Vaccination research.

Nobody will be held to account; as a buddy of mine texts all the time, ASGH. It's true.

The only question I have is (1) Was it an accident or (2) Was it on purpose.
 
VA_GENTLEMAN said:
If you just follow normal news both national and local; it is pretty clear something is going on and it coincides with the mass "vaccinations" of the spike protein RNA shots.
1. Insurance companies prepared Wall Street that they had about a 3% delta INCREASE in deaths starting in 2022. This was my first inclination something is not right,
2. Notice the Athletes dropping during practice, games and life -- people at the top of health succumb to a cardiac event, stroke or clot.
3. I personally have several friends and family members battling cancer that "doesn't fit" the genetic, age, and lifestyle profiles.
4. Single RNA reactions in mass populations, on just the merits, is a BAD IDEA. My college roommate does this for genetic defects to reduce lifetime costs of healthcare; SPECIFIC to the patient.

Finally, I have personally seen my Dad (currently 89) go down hill after receiving the 2nd Moderna Shot. Slow, Joint Pain, Blood Sugar issues; he even stopped playing golf as his body will just not do what he wants it too. This isn't just old-age.. it literally was Pre- Post- ... that frickin quick.

My wife got the shots, as was mandated by her work. I constantly have a gut-wrenching feeling in my intuition that she is going to be diagnosed with Cancer. Her dad passed away 8 years ago with Sarcoma and her phenotype characteristics would infer a genetic lean to her paternal side.

Fauci, The 3rd Party Resarcher, and the UNC Doctor ALL were involved with Wuhan Gain of Function testing in order to combat the next SARS virus. The problem is that the Chinese DO NOT have an understanding of Control, Continuous Improvement, or Proper Diligence in ANY FIELD. Those people will cut corners, reduce costs, and skip protocols on every action whether it is a cheap toy ... or RNA Vaccination research.

Nobody will be held to account; as a buddy of mine texts all the time, ASGH. It's true.

The only question I have is (1) Was it an accident or (2) Was it on purpose.
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This was no accident

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Georgia Guidestones - Wikipedia

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Diablos said:
unless the new cancer they created is so effective it kills you before the medical industrial complex has to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars in treatment. just drain your wallet in that initial treatment push (where you have to pay out of pocket before insurance kicks in)
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They do keep saying they need to reduce the human carbon footprint.

They just don't explain that WE are the carbon they want to reduce.
 
Globalists are a death cult.

They want to control the herd and cull it if it's numbers cuts into their luxuries.

They want to (and have) destroy historically white European cultures and nations through "wokeness", replacement and collapsing their societies with floods of migrants who will be much easier to control since they are entirely dependent on the State. The migrant depredations are personal crimes with no organization that might threaten their rule and only affect the herd.

The fact that their woke agenda also breeds endless amounts of mentally ill, vulnerable children who are easily drawn into the service of their twisted pleasures because they're so desperate to find any sort of meaning or community is just a bonus.

The Globalists aren't the ones being raped, murdered, robbed and such, so it's working as planned.

They want to replace anyone who might oppose them with ignorant slaves on chains of dependence.

And they are getting what they want.
 
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VA_GENTLEMAN said:
If you just follow normal news both national and local; it is pretty clear something is going on and it coincides with the mass "vaccinations" of the spike protein RNA shots.
1. Insurance companies prepared Wall Street that they had about a 3% delta INCREASE in deaths starting in 2022. This was my first inclination something is not right,
2. Notice the Athletes dropping during practice, games and life -- people at the top of health succumb to a cardiac event, stroke or clot.
3. I personally have several friends and family members battling cancer that "doesn't fit" the genetic, age, and lifestyle profiles.
4. Single RNA reactions in mass populations, on just the merits, is a BAD IDEA. My college roommate does this for genetic defects to reduce lifetime costs of healthcare; SPECIFIC to the patient.

Finally, I have personally seen my Dad (currently 89) go down hill after receiving the 2nd Moderna Shot. Slow, Joint Pain, Blood Sugar issues; he even stopped playing golf as his body will just not do what he wants it too. This isn't just old-age.. it literally was Pre- Post- ... that frickin quick.

My wife got the shots, as was mandated by her work. I constantly have a gut-wrenching feeling in my intuition that she is going to be diagnosed with Cancer. Her dad passed away 8 years ago with Sarcoma and her phenotype characteristics would infer a genetic lean to her paternal side.

Fauci, The 3rd Party Resarcher, and the UNC Doctor ALL were involved with Wuhan Gain of Function testing in order to combat the next SARS virus. The problem is that the Chinese DO NOT have an understanding of Control, Continuous Improvement, or Proper Diligence in ANY FIELD. Those people will cut corners, reduce costs, and skip protocols on every action whether it is a cheap toy ... or RNA Vaccination research.

Nobody will be held to account; as a buddy of mine texts all the time, ASGH. It's true.

The only question I have is (1) Was it an accident or (2) Was it on purpose.
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There is enough information out there that we are way beyond that last question.
 
As a general policy, I limit the amount of drugs I take. Allergies? Cold? Flu? etc etc, I just suck it up.
Other than blood pressure meds that is
 
In spite of pressure from friends and physicians, my wife and I didn’t get the jab.
I’m 79 and just went thru a bunch of tests due to an old age prostrate issue and they say I’m 100% cancer free.
My heart is strong and lungs good..
if I get my weight down I’ll live to 100, but who wants to stick around this country considering the way things are going?
 
I will add that the treatments hospitals were giving at the height of the covid madness likely killed more than the virus. Remdesivir failed its first trials due to subjects dieing.
 
CZfool68 said:
There is enough information out there that we are way beyond that last question.
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I finally got around to reading the latest article linked in the covid thread, and watched the embedded video interview of Dr. Nehls by Tucker Carlson.

That was one of the best, most comprehensive interviews I have seen in these past four years, with the latest research on how the spike protein affects our mental condition and health.

I was initially reluctant to share it because of how disturbing it could be to folks who have taken the shots or have loved ones who have.

But, if you stick with it, at about 30 mins they get into ways to counteract the effects and build health regardless of vax status... The basics of sunlight, vitamin D, light exercise, and more.

Highly recommend that everyone make the 50 mins to listen to this one if you have any concern about covid vax exposure.

And the reality is that given the known shedding effects, pretty much all of us have been exposed to these 'contagious' genetic vaccine products.

eccentrik.substack.com

sHeEp BrAiN - Top Molecular Geneticist Warns mRNA Jabs are ERASING Memories & HIJACKING Personalities

This is a "radical, planned transformation of billions of lives," says Dr. Michael Nehls. And if it continues, a "zombie society" is the only logical outcome...
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DurhamDad said:
I finally got around to reading the latest article linked in the covid thread, and watched the embedded video interview of Dr. Nehls by Tucker Carlson.

That was one of the best, most comprehensive interviews I have seen in these past four years, with the latest research on how the spike protein affects our mental condition and health.

I was initially reluctant to share it because of how disturbing it could be to folks who have taken the shots or have loved ones who have.

But, if you stick with it, at about 30 mins they get into ways to counteract the effects and build health regardless of vax status... The basics of sunlight, vitamin D, light exercise, and more.

Highly recommend that everyone make the 50 mins to listen to this one if you have any concern about covid vax exposure.

And the reality is that given the known shedding effects, pretty much all of us have been exposed to these 'contagious' genetic vaccine products.

eccentrik.substack.com

sHeEp BrAiN - Top Molecular Geneticist Warns mRNA Jabs are ERASING Memories & HIJACKING Personalities

This is a "radical, planned transformation of billions of lives," says Dr. Michael Nehls. And if it continues, a "zombie society" is the only logical outcome...
eccentrik.substack.com eccentrik.substack.com
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I shoot for 90ish oz of water, multi vitamin, vitamin d, daily weight training, and significantly reduced garbage foods (mainly low carb/keto).

Have never felt better
 
Everyone thinks big pharmacy out to get them and it's a scam until it's their life on the line then it's a different story. Dr says you need to start taking Heart meds, blood pressure meds, diabetes, insulin, etc or you'll die and suddenly it ain't that bad.
 
BlueGecko said:
Everyone thinks big pharmacy out to get them and it's a scam until it's their life on the line then it's a different story. Dr says you need to start taking Heart meds, blood pressure meds, diabetes, insulin, etc or you'll die and suddenly it ain't that bad.
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What if the DR is wrong and the studies on some of those meds are fraudulent? I think it was just last year they realized something like 30% or so of all these published studies are fake. I wonder who funds all those studies?
 
We should all be watching our health, fitness and diet, VERY proactively. Even young folks. I understand that in many cases things are unavoidable, but I'd say it's a much larger percentage of folks who aren't genetically disadvantaged and need to rely on Big Pharma to keep them alive, didn't know better/did plan better for the long term. I've also watched Big Pharma give a few of my elders a slow and agonizing death.

Call me holistic/hippie/tinfoil/whatever, but I don't see a doctor for anything other than my teeth. Even bi annual blood work I do privately and out of pocket.

But having healthy children born in the past few years, doctors and medical establishments are a must. I've personally watched one doctor say "your daughter was born with under developed lungs" next visit " never mind, she has low blood iron levels heres supplements you need to administer" next visit "she has jaundice, dangerously low iron(AFTER supplementing their order) and is malnourished, possibly showing infant signs of autism". - my exact words "F__king what??"

We drew the line and changed doctors, she was given a clean bill of health on the fist visit with blood work and general check up and continues to exceed with her markers. Makes us VERY skeptical that her original doctor, was not just looking for her to be unhealthy, but was legitimately telling us lies to keep dinging insurance for unnecessary tests, visits, and medications.

The sad reality is, Big Pharma, hospitals, and medical facilities are a for profit organization, and the head of these establishments are not your friend. Your health means only what they stand to profit off of you.

Again for the none genetically disadvantaged - With the information avaliable on the internet and paper, common sense, reading and understanding ingredient labels, skipping the soft drinks for clean water, supplementing needs based off of diet, 1-2hrs a day of continuous and actual physical exertion of some kind, and sometimes, just dealing with your minor aches, pains, and headaches and not popping a little pills and treats to get you by, chances are pretty high, you'll live until your time is up.

Oh, and not taking vaccines for things that are unnecessary, unproven, and non-life threatening is probably up there on the "common sense" file. I say that after working with the public through the entire "pandemic" and "surviving" covid 3 times.
 
Here’s a pretty good level headed discussion about all this. Both from a legal and pharmaceutical point of view.

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Tom Renz & Ex-Pharma Executive Sasha Latypova Ask Dr. Drew, April 24, 2024

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Holy shit, are implying that not all doctors are gods, but simply regular-ass people with the same shitty diagnostic/troubleshooting skills as the majority of the population? And that to cover their own insane insurance demands, employer demands, and/or downright greed, they might make sketchy or even outright incorrect medical calls?

I once knew an old timer that told me one of his proudest accomplishments was outliving his POS doctor and marrying his widow.
 
I outlived my dad last year. I’m on bonus time far as I’m concerned, plus I ride a motorcycle.

I’ve got an appointment with St. Peter one day. Not going to worry about it.
 
yard mongrel said:
Holy shit, are implying that not all doctors are gods, but simply regular-ass people with the same shitty diagnostic/troubleshooting skills as the majority of the population?
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Most of them are like bad mechanics or flip chart reading tech support.
 
yard mongrel said:
Holy shit, are implying that not all doctors are gods, but simply regular-ass people with the same shitty diagnostic/troubleshooting skills as the majority of the population? And that to cover their own insane insurance demands, employer demands, and/or downright greed, they might make sketchy or even outright incorrect medical calls?
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Get them talking and they'll remind you they are the "professional" and have accolades to prove it.

In my line of work, you won't be a "professional" for long crutching on outright lies, incorrect calls, and making things up for quota demands.

Maybe I should become a doctor, atleast I'd be ethical in my practice.
 
I’m not defending the jab but at least that abstract is talking about the effect of the spikes from the virus. Now I wouldn’t want a needle full of spikes causing the same damage but does the paper spin in a different direction to talk specifically about the vax?
 
BlueGecko said:
Everyone thinks big pharmacy out to get them and it's a scam until it's their life on the line then it's a different story. Dr says you need to start taking Heart meds, blood pressure meds, diabetes, insulin, etc or you'll die and suddenly it ain't that bad.
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I wish the issue was that simple. Manicheanism is an old error which asserts men are EITHER absolute devils or pure angels (your side is the devil, my side is the angels, of course!). The truth is different. Not all of the medical industry, even people who push drugs they KNOW are (or may be ) harmful,.... not even those people are diabolical. I believe most people want to be good (I did not say they ARE good... I am, after all, a Calvinist). At their worst, they wish to do good and bring about good, even when they have lied to themselves and justified monstrous evil. Very few people will say "I don't care about anyone but me" even when everyone around them sees it to be so.

Also Western medicine is good for what I call "shock" treatment. When the body is in trauma, life systems are crashing, and you need radical intervention, western medicine is the best. Hands down. You want advanced drugs, the best surgery, the most skilled techinical doctors in a balance of drugs, invasive techniques and techical assistance? The USA wins that race hands down.

However, we are the hammer that thinks everything looks like a nail. Drugs, drugs, drugs, and more medicine. If it works to save a life, it must be good to prolong a life. You fat? Here, take these to help you lose weight. Blood pressure hi? Man, do we have some dope for you! It is a misama of pharmaceuticals (which have become intertwined with a torrent of taxpayer money.... which ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS breeds corruption and overuse, no matter what area)

This is a literal petri dish for not only corruption, but subterfuge, deception, god-complexes and messianic expectations, and horrific lies. That has certainly happened. Do I believe reserchers looked for a switch to turn off p53 and deliberately cull the human population? Frankly, I don't know. I know there are rich and powerful people at the head of banking and drug empires who have openly announced their intents to do so. COULD it be so? It defies credulity, I admit. I tend to be skeptical, and then I read stuff like this my first rxn is "oh no. The lunatics were right all along." I am thankful I at least have a grid that defines and explains human psychology and the depth of evil in man, else I would be in real despair.

It is against that background that I say again... I think your response is simplistic and naive. I don't deny the good things that medicine has brought. I do believe it has become corrupted, perverted and an acutal agent of evil and death. I don't gasp in horror at this because I can back up and say "yep, it is what the manual says" rather than dismiss it without reading (honest question... did YOU read it, or did you just comment?).

Go team, and all that.
 
Mathieu18 said:
I’m not defending the jab but at least that abstract is talking about the effect of the spikes from the virus. Now I wouldn’t want a needle full of spikes causing the same damage but does the paper spin in a different direction to talk specifically about the vax?
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ALWAYS the first question to ask, imo. Good point. What did you think? The original paper is a technical document and takes a bit of time, I admit. I have found that going thru and ignoring the trade jargon, then going back thru and looking up the tech stuff that keeps me from understanding (always the case for me) is helpful.
 
BlueGecko said:
Everyone thinks big pharmacy out to get them and it's a scam until it's their life on the line then it's a different story. Dr says you need to start taking Heart meds, blood pressure meds, diabetes, insulin, etc or you'll die and suddenly it ain't that bad.
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in most cases, those are years worth of poor lifestyle choices. most americans would rather take pills than change their lifestyle/eating habits that caused those chronic conditions (ozempic anyone?)
 
Diablos said:
in most cases, those are years worth of poor lifestyle choices. most americans would rather take pills than change their lifestyle/eating habits that caused those chronic conditions (ozempic anyone?)
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I think this is largely true: good diet, exercise, stress management can do wonders and stave off a multitude of disease (and thus meds). But. There's always a 'but.' There are medical conditions in which medicine and treatment are the only option (type 1 DM, et al).

I think people have grown increasingly binary over the years, accelerated by COVID, and a lot of people throw the baby out with the bath water.
 
Chuckman said:
I think this is largely true: good diet, exercise, stress management can do wonders and stave off a multitude of disease (and thus meds). But. There's always a 'but.' There are medical conditions in which medicine and treatment are the only option (type 1 DM, et al).

I think people have grown increasingly binary over the years, accelerated by COVID, and a lot of people throw the baby out with the bath water.
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absolutely 100% agree, big difference between type 1 and type 2 (and probably other genetic onset diseases as well we medication is best option *not only as holistic is one too*)
 
Maybe my tinfoil is too tight but I don't believe anything related to the jab is "accidental" or "experimental". I believe it was developed long before it was rolled out and it's doing exactly what it was designed to do.

Even in the early days of the jab roll out it was fairly obvious that it wasn't doing what they told us it was going to do, but it was unbelievably important/urgent that they put it in every man, woman, and child on the plant. Seeing this urgency made me wonder when the other shoe was going to drop and the designed function of the jab was going to make itself known.
 
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