SEAL Team Training Article

[ProfMagoo(ret)]

I'm a Navy SEAL guilty of brutal training

Yes, I know, an MSN link.

The last few lines:

Our existence is brutal.
War is brutal.
Because of that—our training is brutal.
And it needs to stay that way.

 

[Chuckman]

Given everything that has gone down with them they have been on the radar, and the latest thing is using CS gas during training:

Tear gas video triggers investigation into Navy SEAL selection course

The Navy SEALs training program is under increased scrutiny after the death of New Jersey native Kyle Mullen earlier this year, and now CBS News has learned of a new investigation over intense tear gas training. David Martin joins CBS2 with details.

www.cbsnews.com

The Marine Basic Reconnaissance Course at Camp Pendleton uses CS on the Marines and corpsmen during a multi-mile evolution, no one has said 'boo.' Nevermind it is also used in every military boot camp, and is an annual or semiannual validation. Training SHOULD be brutal, rigorous, nearly incapacitating.

 

[steelciocc]

Our existence is brutal.
War is brutal.
Because of that—our training is brutal.
And it needs to stay that way.

I didn’t read the article or know the context but..this is true^^

 

[chiefjason]

Yeah Jocko ran TRADET, SEAL advanced training. He knows a thing or two and never shys away from speaking the truth about it.

 

[Chdamn]

The truth is that any military unit (but especially the elite units) have to train in as close to real world conditions as possible so that they can be ready for those same situations in real life.

The only thing that should be subtracted from real life is actual bullets being fired at you.

People have alway died in intense training programs. Hell people die from stupidity in low speed training all the time too. We lost an entire squad of marines and an AAV crew in Splash out training because the crew chief didn’t double check the dogs on the hatches. Splashed in and sank straight to the bottom.

And not to be all a few good men but those deaths save lives.

 

[DrScaryGuy]

The truth is that any military unit (but especially the elite units) have to train in as close to real world conditions as possible so that they can be ready for those same situations in real life.

The only thing that should be subtracted from real life is actual bullets being fired at you.

Listen. I have no intention of ever fighting a war. But every now and again i go shoot out in the rain or other bad weather, when i have a headache, when everything has gone wrong all day, etc. Train how you want to perform and all that.
Anybody can be good when things are good. If it comes to a ground war, I think our soldiers should have the comfort of knowing they've trained in bad conditions rather than having done everything in VR simulators and then suddenly thrown out in the real thing. Not everybody has seen dead bodies with their insides spilled all over the outside. People should probably learn early that sometimes people just like them die. every day life is tough as it is, one would think that war is tougher.

 

[Spartan]

This article is because that one trainee just died after completing hell week. His mother is demanding an investigation.
Here’s the thing, read the whole article-
It was his second attempt at BUDS. He washed on day 1 his first attempt. Then he decided to cheat and use PED’s. He kept them in a car off post with other classmates who were also on the stuff.
He had a very bad case of SIPE (Swimming Induced Pulmonary Edema) and basically drowned in his own fluids.
I admire his guts and willingness to win, however he cheated and basically bro scienced his endocrine system.
I am sorry for that mother’s loss, nothing could suck like losing your kid, but that’s the training.
You want the best? You need to train them right up to the edge.

 

[Chdamn]

This article is because that one trainee just died after completing hell week. His mother is demanding an investigation.
Here’s the thing, read the whole article-
It was his second attempt at BUDS. He washed on day 1 his first attempt. Then he decided to cheat and use PED’s. He kept them in a car off post with other classmates who were also on the stuff.
He had a very bad case of SIPE (Swimming Induced Pulmonary Edema) and basically drowned in his own fluids.
I admire his guts and willingness to win, however he cheated and basically bro scienced his endocrine system.
I am sorry for that mother’s loss, nothing could suck like losing your kid, but that’s the training.
You want the best? You need to train them right up to the edge.

I didn’t read the article but assumed something like this.

What PED was he taking? Just test?

 

[Spartan]

I didn’t read the article but assumed something like this.

What PED was he taking? Just test?

It didn’t specify what PED(s) he was on.
He was reportedly obsessed, and taking several things based on what classmates told him.

 

[Mike V]

Given everything that has gone down with them they have been on the radar, and the latest thing is using CS gas during training:

Tear gas video triggers investigation into Navy SEAL selection course

The Navy SEALs training program is under increased scrutiny after the death of New Jersey native Kyle Mullen earlier this year, and now CBS News has learned of a new investigation over intense tear gas training. David Martin joins CBS2 with details.

www.cbsnews.com

The Marine Basic Reconnaissance Course at Camp Pendleton uses CS on the Marines and corpsmen during a multi-mile evolution, no one has said 'boo.' Nevermind it is also used in every military boot camp, and is an annual or semiannual validation. Training SHOULD be brutal, rigorous, nearly incapacitating.

I went through CS training, in military school, in the 8th grade. I survived and new exactly what it would be like.