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The function of leaving feedback that requires linking back to the ad creates a public registry of sorts. Is there a way to change this so feedback can be left, but it doesn't link back to the ad?
Given the overwhelming number of supporting members that have negative opinions of creating a bill of sale, I'm surprised the feedback is set up the way it is.
 
Or make feedback a condition of buying/selling a firearm. Nothing wrong with feedback on non-firearms but if buyer and seller agree, no feedback will be left for firearm transactions.
Those who don’t care about the info possibly being used against them can still leave feedback, which is probably more important to new users.
 
I don’t buy/sell firearms and ammo much anymore, but an illustrious member who had to move away to look after family pointed this out to me years ago after doing a deal here with me, or the last place.
 
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We're on a public local gun forum.

"They" already know to come after every one of us if things get bad. Not really sure if it matters specifically what they see us trading with each other.

If things don't get "real bad" I'm pretty sure the age old argument of "I sold it, go away" is still valid.
 
It’s been quite noticeable that a large percentage of new members were primarily here to buy/sell/trade. Hell, they said so in their intros.

I was wondering how long others would bring up the issue and ensuing problems.
 
Amanda4461 said:
They will find out anyway, why make it difficult? BST functions much like Gunbroker. You live or die by your feedback.
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Conversely, burden of proof is on them. Why make it easy?
I'm nit suggesting no feedback. I'm suggesting not visibly linking back to the actual ad so people know who bought what. The feedback only need state good or bad sellers/buyer.
 
Timfoilhat said:
Given the overwhelming number of supporting members that have negative opinions of creating a bill of sale, I'm surprised the feedback is set up the way it is.
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Point of clarification please. Are members leaving negative feedback just because people list BOS required in the ad? Or is it they require a BOS at time of meeting without disclosing this request beforehand?
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
Point of clarification please. Are members leaving negative feedback just because people list BOS required in the ad? Or is it they require a BOS at time of meeting without disclosing this request beforehand?
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He’s saying a BOS is a possible means of tracking since it creates a paper trail. Similarly, feedback with the original sale thread linked also creates a digital trail.
 
Jerzsubbie said:
He’s saying a BOS is a possible means of tracking since it creates a paper trail. Similarly, feedback with the original sale thread linked also creates a digital trail.
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Sorry, a bit more clarity (I am only on my first cup of coffee).
It sounds like people are leaving negative feedback because they do not like the buyers stated up front conditions?
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
Sorry, a bit more clarity (I am only on my first cup of coffee).
It sounds like people are leaving negative feedback because they do not like the buyers stated up front conditions?
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Is that even possible?
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
Sorry, a bit more clarity (I am only on my first cup of coffee).
It sounds like people are leaving negative feedback because they do not like the buyers stated up front conditions?
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Nope. The staff wouldn’t accept that (meaning someone posting a Negative simply because they didn’t like the up front conditions. However, changing the conditions once a deal is agreed to is a Serious Offense here).
 
This thread didn't cover bad behavior or abuse of feedback system and that's not my intent or question.
This is specifically about allowing the sales to be publicly tracked via feedback and if staff is open to changing that ability.
 
To me it doesn’t seem much different than posting an ad to sell something, at least in terms of the type of information you’re posting.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
Sorry, a bit more clarity (I am only on my first cup of coffee).
It sounds like people are leaving negative feedback because they do not like the buyers stated up front conditions?
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Staff doesn’t allow negative feedback just because. To leave a negative, you have to go through the negative process which means posting a thread. When someone leaves negative feedback, all staff gets a notification.
 
Does a seller have the option to request the entire thread be deleted when the item for sale is no longer available? At least makes the digital trail a little harder to follow.

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Without a valid link anyone can leave fake feedback for other users to make it appear they’re trust worthy. This is the only way to keep the feedback system honest and above board.

Additionally, if you don’t think that the NSA hasn’t already tracked and stored the data that someone pm’d and or texted someone to make a deal you may want to rethink shopping on the internet.

Feedback and a bill of sale are not even remotely the same thing as one trail would require NSA level access and tracking and the other is putting your personal information into the hands of a stranger from the internet.
 
Chdamn said:
Without a valid link anyone can leave fake feedback for other users to make it appear they’re trust worthy. This is the only way to keep the feedback system honest and above board.

Additionally, if you don’t think that the NSA hasn’t already tracked and stored the data that someone pm’d and or texted someone to make a deal you may want to rethink shopping on the internet.

Feedback and a bill of sale are not even remotely the same thing as one trail would require NSA level access and tracking and the other is putting your personal information into the hands of a stranger from the internet.
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This is tangential to my question. Using the sale ad to identify the sale for the purpose of entering feedback is understood as necessary to validate the feedback as valid. Publishing the link post feedback entry is the part I'm questioning.
 
Timfoilhat said:
This is tangential to my question. Using the sale ad to identify the sale for the purpose of entering feedback is understood as necessary to validate the feedback as valid. Publishing the link post feedback entry is the part I'm questioning.
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The feedback module doesn’t allow for this or work that way.
 
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ontheroad said:
Hm. I can see on the one hand where it's nice for comparison shopping but once a deal is done, not sure I feel good about some AFT rat 6 months later trying to put a case together and being able to see that I was selling stuff and how much I was asking.
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In this day and age you have go on the assumption that all communications on cell phones and internet are compromised.
Side note: Simply being on this forum most likely already has you on a ”list” .
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
In this day and age you have go on the assumption that all communications on cell phones and internet are compromised.
Side note: Simply being on this forum most likely already has you on a ”list” .
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There's a difference between being on the list, and making a local investigation easy. I know I'm not the guy who coined the phrase "the internet is forever." I might as well be given how often I repeat it.

There's another conversation going on elsewhere on this board, and one happening in Illinois that have me thinking about the topic.

ATF having the clamp down and rule changes concerning who is a dealer is one conversation.
Illinois has one going on about JB Pritzker (governor) being quite open about the next law they plan to pass being confiscation now that registration and UBC has started in Illinois.
It may not be the alphabet agency who undoubtedly has the ability to check the tapes that a regular guy has to be concerned about. It might be the local militant mom's demand contingent looking for low hanging fruit. Today in NC and SC we seem safe. VA seemed safe not so long ago and learned fast and hard what complacency and relocation of Yankees can do to a place. So it may be sensible to keep our details out of sight from them before they grow bold and feel empowered as a result of an election that tips the scale their way.
 
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this thread reminds me of some crazy dude on EBAY in the early years. He would give bizarre insane rambling feebacks on just random people. All positive feedback, and all good natured and screamingly funny. Some people got pretty wound up about it and they started restricting feedback to people who had actual transactions. He wound up being a legend on Ebay. I dunno how I ran across his archives, but I split a gut one night just cruising thru them.......
It is probably good that the y limit it to actual transactions....., although I kind of applaud an effort not to make those actual transactions a part of the feedback record.
 
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