Ok...It appeared as though they had a power point presentation that they couldn't get to work and it ended up being a lot of Q&A. I'm sure there was plenty of good stuff in it that we didn't get to hear or see. The law firm partner mentioned a couple things that would be covered but people kept interrupting with questions. The average age of the attendees was probably 50ish. The partner from the law firm does a lot of work for the F.O.P. The associate was a true gun guy, many years under his belt shooting and has worked at a LGS or two.
Some things I took away from the session. Most of it I and the rest of y'all already know....
1. Say as little as possible when you call 911. Ask for police and an ambulance. It's not your responsibility to determine if the douchebag is dead or alive. 911 calls are of course recorded.
Someone in the class claimed as soon as 911 is dialed the recording starts? Either way I intend to make sure that I am the only one talking if I ever have to make that call. You are also most likely to be given a ride to the cop shop in cuffs.
2. Follow Massad Ayoobs advice, then STFU until you have counsel. NO MATTER HOW BRILLIANT YOU THINK YOU ARE! Even if you are just having a "casual chat" with Officer Wantstobuildacase. They don't have to Mirandize you just to "talk" Ask General Flynn how things work out when you talk to law enforcement casually. This is about your 5th Amendment rights. I strongly suggest you take the roughly 3/4 of an hour of your precious time to at least listen to the video
@Diablos posted. SPOT ON! Most of what they able to discuss is covered in that video.
3. The longer the better before you start to tell your side of the story. Request medical attention for yourself if you even think you're OK is a good way to delay.
4. Triple tap is not a good idea. The main partner of the law firm that was there told us of a retired Marine that did it instinctually and got convicted because of the shot to the head. All good otherwise. NC is not a shoot to kill state. I don't know if any are. Didn't ask.
My
personal opinions are is that it's premeditated murder. So is the
intentional mag dump, although you might get away with it claiming duress, etc. Hopefully your jury will see it that way. Again just my personal opinions.
5. Defending against charges in a shooting is very very very expensive. Would probably bankrupt most of us.
6. Regarding immunity from civil action...yeah you have it in NC if it's a good shoot. The USCCA guy that was there mentioned a case where the shooter didn't get sued for killing the guy. He was divorced and had a 12 year old who the ex had custody of. The dead guy was on the hook for another six years of child support. The ex filed a suit for lost wages. USCCA settled the case for 70K rather than spending months or possibly years litigating. The case was in one of their recent e-mails if you get them or look at them when you do.
7. Don't count on being able to shoulder the brace on AR/AK pistols much longer.
PM me if you want the name of the firm as well as the name of the associate that is a shooter. The partner didn't mention being a gun guy, but I believe he would be a great advocate as well. If it takes a minute or two for me to get back, I apologize ahead of time. Some of you may even know the associate. He didn't mention where exactly he had worked. He hates the BATFE. Sounded to me like he has a collection like
@BigWaylon!
I'm going to go with USCCA in a few minutes. I just had to consider the level of protection I could afford and have worked that out.