Sig’s QC strikes again

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Took my 19.5 to the range today, finishing off the session with a mag dump of Sig 115gr FMJ, black and yellow box. Pull the trigger mid-dump and get a click. Wait a sec then pull it out to inspect it see and this -_- bullet is still in the case and tight, not able to spin it. Looks to be some chipped primers that blew out? The primer was ignited (?) but that’s about all that happened
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My Glock looks and functions fine but the breech face/slide was filthy when disassembled. I had double ear pro in and was shooting fast so didn’t particularly notice any pop/flash. Could damage to the firing pin be a possibility? Some primer drag on rounds fired after this happened but nothing terrible. Never checked for it before on this firearm

Ahhh, good ol’ Sig. I know, mistakes happen and even the biggest manufactures have stuff that slips
 
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The primers were loaded sideways. They’re rotated 90* to the side. Your primer strike is actually on the side of the primer cup and you can see the anvil sticking out of the primer at 5 o’clock, clearly it was crushed. Never saw that before.
 
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I just posted about SIG loading steel case ammo, and probably being sneaky about it. Judging by the picture above @Jerzsubbie is right. Those primers are clearly loaded sideways and blocking the flash hole. I think I’ll steer clear of SIG ammo
 
And to think at one time Sig was known for good products.......
There is a reason I stopped buying their product over the last 20 years.
No QC and overpriced.
I do love my older sigs, 220, 226, 228, 225, P6.....
 
Thatguy said:
I just posted about SIG loading steel case ammo, and probably being sneaky about it. Judging by the picture above @Jerzsubbie is right. Those primers are clearly loaded sideways and blocking the flash hole. I think I’ll steer clear of SIG ammo
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When most of this Sig ammo was sold it was the cheapest available ammo. What did people expect?

"Born in Europe, Perfected in America”

"When it counts"
 
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Posted this over in another thread, but it fits here, too…

A lot of QC issues are starting to rear their ugly head. Personally, I believe it’s a combination of issues:

- Production ramped up to levels we’ve likely never seen before.

- Manufacturers may be having difficulties sourcing components or even raw materials and possibly using “whatever they can find”.

- New manufacturers, jumping into the market “while it’s hot”, who are likely more concerned with quantity over quality and are willing to use the absolute cheapest materials/equipment available.

- Demand is high, economy is bad, folks may be willing to take a chance on cheaper/questionable ammo, just so they can “get a lot more of it”.

Throw all this together and it is a recipe for disaster…it is ammunition, not ink pens. If/when it fails, it may not be isolated to just the range; and even if it is just at the range, the consequences of poor QC may result in not only damaged/destroyed firearms, but also damaged/destroyed people.
 
Guess that’s one of the perks of reloading…

Yeah, it may be difficult finding components, but ultimately, you have a choice on which components you use, you have control over every step of the loading process and you can choose to have strict QC.
 
I used to load on a Lee Loadmaster press. They seat primers at the bottom of the stroke so it’s hard to feel primers going in sideways. The primer system can act a little crazy sometimes and I’ve loaded many primers sideways in the past. A couple sideways primers even made it into my mags over the years and when you shoot them, either nothing happens or it sounds like a squib, but the projectile never leaves the case. No harm to the gun but it does burn very dirty and makes a bit of a mess.
 
Thats scary. I never really thought about this type of thing till I had some Monarch 9mm gave me 2 Squib loads . I shoot slower now.

I keep wondering about QC when things ramp up on that super high pressure 6.8 2 piece case ? What will happen?
 
Contact Sig, give them lot number(s) and they will replace the ammo.
Thatguy said:
I just posted about SIG loading steel case ammo, and probably being sneaky about it. Judging by the picture above @Jerzsubbie is right. Those primers are clearly loaded sideways and blocking the flash hole. I think I’ll steer clear of SIG ammo
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I posted reply from Sig that they do not use any steel cases.
 
jimmyjames8 said:
Does Sig actually make ammo or just their name on the box?
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They have a factory in Arkansas.
www.arkansasonline.com

Jacksonville ammo plant to grow

Sig Sauer is expanding the ammunition making capacity at its Jacksonville plant, investing millions of dollars and adding jobs as the nation's year-long ammo shortage drags on.
www.arkansasonline.com www.arkansasonline.com
 
Doesn't hurt to do a quick cursory check on the primers on each new box of ammo you open, unless they are bulk packed.
 
Their JHP elite ammo has always worked well. I use it for carry ammo and have shot a few hundred rounds of it. Never shot the fmj's but stuff happens. You buy enough ammo you see weird stuff.
 
As soon as I saw it......a WWB joke was forthcoming. Alas, wvsig beat me to it.

Gotta be quick on the draw in this place, lol.
 
Saw a sideways one in WWB, it went off, just fizzed out the side. My friend thought for sure it was a squib
 
Button Pusher said:
They have a factory in Arkansas.
www.arkansasonline.com

Jacksonville ammo plant to grow

Sig Sauer is expanding the ammunition making capacity at its Jacksonville plant, investing millions of dollars and adding jobs as the nation's year-long ammo shortage drags on.
www.arkansasonline.com www.arkansasonline.com
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Right on. Lots of chemical and ammo plants there for whatever reason during and after WWII.
 
I've had bad rounds from almost every manufacturer that I can think of except Discreet Balistics. Winchester is the worst by far. Definitely need to keep our eyes open when loading mags with the 'new help' and increased demand for ammo.
 
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