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http://www.fayobserver.com/news/20171222/stolen-gun-at-walmart-causes-panic

An incident involving a stolen gun caused a commotion at Walmart on Skibo Road on Thursday afternoon.

About 3 p.m., Fayetteville police spokeswoman Asia Cannon said, inaccurate information based on radio scanner traffic began circulating about a shooting at the Walmart. Officers arrived and discovered that a man had grabbed a gun off another man who was open-carrying the weapon. The man who grabbed the gun then ran off.

During the incident, someone yelled out in the business about a gun, and a commotion broke out. Cannon said one Walmart employee was treated by emergency personnel for an asthma attack. No one else was injured.

Cannon said the man who stole the gun was last seen running toward Yadkin Road. The incident remains under investigation, and police are searching for the man. Anyone with information is asked to call Crimestoppers at 483-TIPS (8477).
 
Stout said:
Should I wonder why people who OC don't use retention holsters or will that cause a flame war?
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Best if you don't go there. Someone on the forum might have an asthma attack. ;)
 
Hell, I ain't skeert I'll say it, OC does not reflect on the gun community in a favorable way. There, it's out in the open.
I have over heard comments made by people when they see someone OC'ing and their not good. One woman in Wal Mart was on her way to find a manager and there was a guy that called the OC'er a "stupid, careless idiot"....
Get a CC if possible, if not leave it at home..... Flame on!!!
 
Bailey Boat said:
Hell, I ain't skeert I'll say it, OC does not reflect on the gun community in a favorable way. There, it's out in the open.
I have over heard comments made by people when they see someone OC'ing and their not good. One woman in Wal Mart was on her way to find a manager and there was a guy that called the OC'er a "stupid, careless idiot"....
Get a CC if possible, if not leave it at home..... Flame on!!!
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Agreed. Just a bad look imo and makes you a target. It is their right to do it and I am sure they have their reasons to do so but believe they have a responsibility to have a retention holster. I am not a fan but do support their rights to do it.
 
Amps 13 said:
Agreed. Just a bad look imo and makes you a target. It is their right to do it and I am sure they have their reasons to do so but believe they have a responsibility to have a retention holster. I am not a fan but do support their rights to do it.
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Well I guess this is the case that is not the example of a person being a target of OC. If anything this type of incident should make the General Assembly rethink constitutional carry.
 
I read that article a couple of days ago. Some folks commented that they were there when it happened stated that two guys got into an argument. One of them pulled a gun.
Its a bit different than the 'gun stolen from open carrier', but i wasnt there.
 
Britches on, gun on....britches off, gun off. OC keeps the hot chicks comin and the libchiks goin....just like I like it! Since I grew up in commercial construction my head was always on a swivel moving thru a site.....that hyper awareness carries over to my OC today. I agree with both sides on this but one has to fly ones own plane!

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We had a customer come in at the LGS open carrying with an uncle Mike's holster on a second belt around his waist slung low like the old west gunfighter, another who carries crossdraw in a non cross draw holster, not the most knowledgeable of our 2a brethren, but the question arises how do you how do separate the ones who are open carrying irresponsibley, to the ones that can't afford a permit but are try to exercise their right to protect their selves and family. Yes I know install constitutional carry,but you open a whole nother can of worms with that, quite the quandary
 
I refuse to concede the strategic advantage of concealed, it might negate losing the element of surprise which is always working against you if someone else decides to initiate a conflict.

I do appreciate those who OC. It serves as a visible reminder to everyone that both keeping and bearing are fundamental rights.
 
In one pistol class (weapons retention) I took the instructor took all our handguns and gave us blue gun versions and for the first 2 hours in the classroom he and the other instructor would every so often grab a student’s pistol while we were watching the instructional work. They were not kind and gentle and the only holster that was never victimized was a thumb drive holster. Given the instructors knew how to access the pistols from the various holsters they just couldn’t press the thumb drive. They did this to show the class just how simple it is if the person carrying doesn’t pay attention and lets someone in to the ring of opportunity. Also that carrying concealed does offer you some buffer from being targeted anyway. They also pointed out where you carry on your person also helps ... both these guys carried IWB appendix in kydex (both were G19s). While it is opinion their reasoning was anything hip or back was not in their strength wheelhouse and the grabber would have a big leverage advantage. Someone asked about blowing your twig and berries off their response was basically anyone grabbing for your gun ain’t doing it for a good reason and if they do gain control they will likely shoot you to stop your resistance.

Side note if you can take a weapons retention course ... it is no glamorous thing but the techniques taught could be the last chance efforts you might have.
 
Cowboy said:
I saw several OCing the last week at different stores. They always have uncle mikes holsters for some reason??
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It's not often you find someone smart enough to get a quality retention holster. It's as if OC and intelligence are inversely proportional.
 
chiefjason said:
So we can't OC because people don't like guns. We should CC.

But people that don't like guns don't like CC.

So we shouldn't CC?

And when did we start deciding what we do based on what other people don't like?
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Coming from the man who makes really sweet owb holsters. LOL LOL
 
Bailey Boat said:
Hell, I ain't skeert I'll say it, OC does not reflect on the gun community in a favorable way. There, it's out in the open.
I have over heard comments made by people when they see someone OC'ing and their not good. One woman in Wal Mart was on her way to find a manager and there was a guy that called the OC'er a "stupid, careless idiot"....
Get a CC if possible, if not leave it at home..... Flame on!!!
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I tend to agree even though I fully support the right as part of the 2A and have no prob;em when I see it. Which is rare in these parts.

I will admit that I like the open carry law in NC as a bit of protection should I inadvertently print or expose the gun.

I may be wrong but I've read some states that are "shall issue" with their concealed permits, can be a bit testy about printing or exposing the gun if they don't have open carry.

Anyone from SC care to chime in?
 
Sneakymedic said:
If you wear your super Tactical Timmy thigh/ knee rig in Walmart this stuff wouldn't happened.
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The cops do in this town.

I was walking in to Wally one afternoon and I watched one head in to the security dept. to take down a shop lifter.

He was fully equipped, thigh rig, shooter shades. Only missing the high speed beard.
 
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Bailey Boat said:
Hell, I ain't skeert I'll say it, OC does not reflect on the gun community in a favorable way. There, it's out in the open.
I have over heard comments made by people when they see someone OC'ing and their not good. One woman in Wal Mart was on her way to find a manager and there was a guy that called the OC'er a "stupid, careless idiot"....
Get a CC if possible, if not leave it at home..... Flame on!!!
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And this is a reason people shouldn't OC?

I've attended OC meetups before. It's a great way to raise awareness about rights. We've had people come up and ask us questions. Even those that may have been too shy or intimidated got a chance to observe that a group of people with guns on their hips can enjoy a meal in a restaurant without shooting up the place.
 
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I saw two gentlemen OCing at Jason’s Deli in Brier Creek yesterday. I fully expected the clientele there to clutch their pearls and I was prepared to fetch a fainting couch. But I dare say half the people there did not even notice. I tend not to OC myself ( been SWATed in my own neighborhood), but I see no problems with it.
 
If you choose to OC then OC, if you choose to CC, then CC.

However if you choose to do either in a ridiculous way, allow me to ridicule you according.

I've wanted to just walk up to some of the people with the Fobus or Uncle Mike's holster, snatch it off their belt and just hand it back to them. It's never the well dressed person with a retention holster that you see OC.
It's most always the guy who looks homeless, carrying a gold plated Deagle off a cheap belt in a uncle mikes revolver holster with the trigger exposed... also if this was any of you in the Sanford Lowe's, PM me. I'll buy you a holster.

OC attracts attention, which could be positive or negative, however I choose to try and attract the least attention possible.
 
I wish that OC was as commonplace as having a phone on your hip. It's certainly more comfortable and an easier draw. Despite what the OC community wants to believe, for every hoplophobic heart that OC has changed favorably towards guns, there are hundreds more who are pushed the other way. But if you use some common sense, you're less likely to get a negative reaction. When I'm on the way home from hunting, wearing head to toe camouflage, orange hat and boots, I'm usually OC'ing a sidearm. If I stop at a convenience store, especially in rural areas, the only thing I ever hear is "did you see anything today?". But I won't go into Harris Teeter in Cary with it uncovered. God gave you a brain, use it.
 
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