Swiss Army Knives - Bladeless?

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Just saw this on another forum. I’m reminded of a line from Forest Gump.

Bloomberg) -- The Swiss Army Knife, the iconic, more than century-old fold-up tool used by whittlers, soldiers and even astronauts, will soon be available without a blade.
Victorinox, the company behind the quintessentially Swiss product, is responding to tighter regulations around weapons around the world, Chief Executive Officer Carl Elsener told the Blick newspaper on Monday. Instead, it plans to add tools for cyclists and other functions to a gadget that usually also features scissors and a corkscrew.
“We are concerned about the increasing regulation of knives due to the violence in the world,” Elsener said, citing laws in the UK and in Asian countries that permit knife-carrying only for work or outdoor activities. “In some markets, the blade creates an image of a weapon.”
Last year, a man with a Victorinox knife in his pocket was fined in Osaka, Japan for carrying a dangerous object, Swissinfo reported in December. In Switzerland, a proposed minor revision to the weapons ordinance in 2016 prompted a member of parliament to ask, “Will the famous Swiss Army knife be banned?,” according to the report.
“The increasing regulation of knives in various countries represents a major challenge for the company,” a company spokesman told Bloomberg News, confirming the Blick report.
Victorinox’s pocketknives became famous when American soldiers brought them home as souvenirs after World War II. The company has been producing in Switzerland since 1897, supplying gadgets to the Swiss army as well as NASA.
 
I don't really see what the big deal is. Though I think some of the pansy speak is a bit reaching, its pretty smart to find a way to continue to market your "knives" in countries that no longer allow knives to be carried.
 
Give me a break, what crap.

You could do more damage with a hard on in stead of a Swiss army knife.

In North Carolina a knife is a tool.

The CEO is a "tool" and a dull one at that.
 
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Give me a break with the virtue signalling. This isn't some BS the company made up - it's a response to changing market conditions. Adapt or die.
The real tell is whether or not the company lobbying funds go toward politicians who support this garbage, and I have no data on that.
 
IMHO a multi-tool without a blade is just about worthless. Oh- wait I forgot about the nail file.
 
Ok? So they see a market for a version of their product without sharp and/or pointy implements and are going to start offering models like that?

Seems like good business practice to have models of your product for all viable markets, yeah?

They aren't eliminating anything, only adding models to sell. Good for them.

I can find much more interesting things to whine about than this🤔😂
 
It’s not about making a knife without a… knife blade, to me it’s about

“ ohmergawd we must save the world from itself”

“Cruel World !! We are going to make a knife without a knife to protect you !,
 
The thing about this that's stupid is the blade on these was never all that dangerous anyway. The tree saw is a far better tool for defense, as is the awl.
 
Some of y'all don't seem to know that most of the big multitool makers already offer bladeless versions in their line. Shit, I've made numerous bladeless multitools, because, like many, I carried a multitool and dedicated folder.

Futhermore, Elsener said he was "concerned about the increasing regulation of knives". Nowhere did he say the Victorinox would stop making normal SAKs, but that they would offer bladeless versions for folks in such countries.

If'n you don't like big corp knifemakers that cater to foreign markets with bullshit knife laws, go ahead and dump whatever knife you're carrying in the trash, because all of them make tiny Cali legals autos, or non-locking folders, or rounded tip blades, etc, for the Euro and Asian world.
 
as you don’t need several knives.
WHATTTTTT???🤣 I carry atleast 3 at all times when I'm leaving the house and most times have 2 on me while setting around. A fixed blade around 6 inch blade length a old school folder in pocket and a assisted open folder with clip in pocket. And as a forth i go with small fixed blade in horizontal sheath in cross draw positon .The tool I use the most on a Swiss army type knife or multi tool is probably the tweezers and file.
 
I’m all for this, as long as the tool has no bottle opener. I’ve never seen a more ubiquitous-yet-worthless tool in my life.

Plenty of people already carry a separate knife, so a Swiss Army Tool might be great, as you don’t need several knives.


EVERY multitool seems to have one. I haven’t used a bottle opener in 50 years. And if I did need one, I’m sure I could find one. Wasted real estate on a multi tool IMO.

Shop Mexican more often.
The bottle opener on a multitool is typically a large flathead/pry tool, and is honestly the more useful than the blade itself the majority of the time.
 
I’m all for this, as long as the tool has no bottle opener. I’ve never seen a more ubiquitous-yet-worthless tool in my life.

Plenty of people already carry a separate knife, so a Swiss Army Tool might be great, as you don’t need several knives.


EVERY multitool seems to have one. I haven’t used a bottle opener in 50 years. And if I did need one, I’m sure I could find one. Wasted real estate on a multi tool IMO.



None of your examples have anything to do with a company marketing new products to people in places and situations where they can’t have knives.

Is Crest “woke” for selling tubes of toothpaste that are sized under the TSA max limit? Is PSA “woke” for selling 10 round magazines to states where you can’t have 30-rounders?


Are Coach and Michael Kors “woke” for marketing clear purses to women who want to be able to get into sporting events and concerts?

You’re missing my point.

They didn’t make a tool for the sake of a new idea. And said HEY, we made a new tool !!
No, They prefaced it as a Swiss Army knife without the blade.
“the blade creates an image of a weapon.”
 
Some of y'all don't seem to know that most of the big multitool makers already offer bladeless versions in their line. Shit, I've made numerous bladeless multitools, because, like many, I carried a multitool and dedicated folder.

Futhermore, Elsener said he was "concerned about the increasing regulation of knives". Nowhere did he say the Victorinox would stop making normal SAKs, but that they would offer bladeless versions for folks in such countries.

If'n you don't like big corp knifemakers that cater to foreign markets with bullshit knife laws, go ahead and dump whatever knife you're carrying in the trash, because all of them make tiny Cali legals autos, or non-locking folders, or rounded tip blades, etc, for the Euro and Asian world.
Winner winner chicken dinner.

They're not proposing regulations. They're responding to the markets affected by them.

If you're opposed to this make sure you don't buy any handguns from companies that make California compliant versions.
 
You’re missing my point.

They didn’t make a tool for the sake of a new idea. And said HEY, we made a new tool !!
No, They prefaced it as a Swiss Army knife without the blade.
“the blade creates an image of a weapon.”

They already make TSA compliant Classics. Have for years. Now they're discussing bringing that to their 91mm line, which, hell, I'm interested in seeing. one thing Victorinox doesn't do often is change.

For many, a blade does create the image of a weapon. Just about every goofy ass kid, Asian and European coworker I've had in my life saw whatever knife I was carrying as a weapon and called it such. Does that make them sackless sheep? Sure, but I've got no problem with one of the oldest and most esteemed knifemakers in the world catering to that market.
 
I think it's a great idea
Fact is is that blades arent allowed in a lot of places, but a SAK or LM offer many great tools one could utilize.

I carry a bladeless leatherman to work daily. Use it almost daily in some capacity.
Id love to have a fullsize, bladeless option that was TSA compliant (keeping in mind that the TSA officer has final say in the line)
 
They've been making a small one called the Jetsetter for a while now. Same size as the Classic SD, no blade. I have one or two somewhere in my SAK pile.

I flew with it quite a bit back when I was flying often. Once and a while TSA would look at it, but I never had an issue.

Great option that gave me a multi-tool when I traveled and didn't check luggage.
 
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Ok? So they see a market for a version of their product without sharp and/or pointy implements and are going to start offering models like that?

Seems like good business practice to have models of your product for all viable markets, yeah?

They aren't eliminating anything, only adding models to sell. Good for them.

I can find much more interesting things to whine about than this🤔😂
I need one, I rarely need the knife part but can't have my SAK at work because it has the knife part.
 
You’re missing my point.

They didn’t make a tool for the sake of a new idea. And said HEY, we made a new tool !!
No, They prefaced it as a Swiss Army knife without the blade.
“the blade creates an image of a weapon.”

I agree with several others here - this will increase or maintain their sales in places where you can't have a blade. Smart move.

They are not saying, 'knives are dangerous so we are removing them'. They're saying we're adding new items that don't have blades if you want them. Pretty simple, and not anywhere near my definition of "woke".
 
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You’re missing my point.

No, They prefaced it as a Swiss Army knife without the blade.
“the blade creates an image of a weapon.”
You cut off their quote, "in some markets" is a key phrase you left out.
Facts is facts, homey. Some places dont allow knives. How is SAK/Victorinox being 'woke' by creating another tool/line of tools for people in those markets?
 
So a swiss army not-knife or maybe knotknife (with silent “k”s because, english).
 
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