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Of course, I've been reading all the threads of shortage this, difficult that, and the one common theme with 99% of them;
All in urban/suburban areas.

Believe me, those of us elsewhere do not like to see our buddies suffer. It's a real thing and we honestly can relate.

But here's the thing. Not everyone is having the same problems. I know the TV likes to tell you that sooner or later, everywhere will be New York and certain doom will befall even those in the most remote areas.
Well I live in one of those remote areas, and guess what? Don't believe it. We got hit sure, but the body bags and empty shelves never materialized.

Your problem with shortages is because of the dense population of where you live, and all of you going to the store at the same time and buying everything. While we have people that will make a run on the store in a panic, we don't have the density and the stores are largely able to deal with it.

Your community's unemployment woes are largely attributable to the plethora of completely optional businesses that are totally unnecessary as far as maintaining life. We may not be able to go to pinball palace or one of fifty movie theaters or sports bars during good times, but we don't have the problem of them weighting down the community during bad times either.

While you have 3 service providers vying for the customers business, we have 3 customers vying for the service providers business. We're still working.

Bodies are dropping like flies where you are because you-all live in a can. We don't even live in a cage. We simply are not elbow to elbow..ever. While that becomes normal for dwellers, we cringe at the idea even during regular times.

I've walked in your moccasins. I lived in the LA area for eleven years. I got to experience what you already know.

All I'm asking, is please do not project your solutions on us that don't have your problem. Close down what you want, wear hazmat suits, clorox the yard, buy every last pack of bacon, whatever. But we take great offense from those that insist for the solution to be effective, those that aren't part of the problem need to be restricted also, as seen fit from afar.

And 2..kill your TV. It lies.

I'll finish by adding this. I invite all 4000 of our members and their families to come to the mountains. We can and will happily absorb you. The air is clean and you can still see us smile. We're going shooting on Sunday after Church.
But the Gladys Kravitz and the Karen neighbors you-all got...they can stay the hell where they are.
 
We’re not in the mountains, but we are on acreage in the woods with the nearest neighbor ~1000 yards away. It’s great, if needed there’s squirrels, turkey, deer and we’re riverside.
We’re not preppers, yet our lifestyle has caused this time to be a forced staycation. My wife’s really enjoying being forced to relax, and cooking again, that’s one of the best parts :D
 
Some people have just never looked at Nature, how things work there and what happens when too many of one species gets crowded into one space. It ain't rocket science. We won't kill the earth. It will take care of itself.
 
Friday said:
All I'm asking, is please do not project your solutions on us that don't have your problem. Close down what you want, wear hazmat suits, clorox the yard, buy every last pack of bacon, whatever. But we take great offense from those that insist for the solution to be effective, those that aren't part of the problem need to be restricted also, as seen fit from afar.
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I would add that here within the urban locs there is also a lot of projection and imposition going on. A lot of the white collar/academic types that can easily work remotely and/or work for companies that can absorb the slowdown or manage the financial stimulus programs, are either ignorant of or indifferent to the impact of the shutdown orders on regular working people who don't have that flexibility.

I do believe most of those who support the orders believe they are doing the right thing given the risks they are hearing from their (mostly liberal) sources. As we are now learning that there is significantly less risk from nCOV than projected, and more herd immunity already existing, I wonder if/how their perspective will change.
 
If everyone moves into the country, it won’t be country anymore. So while I get your gist, the truth is a healthy economy and society needs balanced urban and rural development. Both have their places.


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DurhamDad said:
I would add that here within the urban locs there is also a lot of projection and imposition going on. A lot of the white collar/academic types that can easily work remotely and/or work for companies that can absorb the slowdown or manage the financial stimulus programs, are either ignorant of or indifferent to the impact of the shutdown orders on regular working people who don't have that flexibility.

I do believe most of those who support the orders believe they are doing the right thing given the risks they are hearing from their (mostly liberal) sources. As we are now learning that there is significantly less risk from nCOV than projected, and more herd immunity already existing, I wonder if/how their perspective will change.
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I wonder how many of those who are imposing rules that close businesses and prevent people from working are losing THEIR livelihood? None I’d bet. Let them lose their income and see how fast things open back up.
 
DurhamDad said:
I would add that here within the urban locs there is also a lot of projection and imposition going on. A lot of the white collar/academic types that can easily work remotely and/or work for companies that can absorb the slowdown or manage the financial stimulus programs, are either ignorant of or indifferent to the impact of the shutdown orders on regular working people who don't have that flexibility.

I do believe most of those who support the orders believe they are doing the right thing given the risks they are hearing from their (mostly liberal) sources. As we are now learning that there is significantly less risk from nCOV than projected, and more herd immunity already existing, I wonder if/how their perspective will change.
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I agree completely. I have a coworker and friend who is married, but has no kids. Him and his wife make really good money and both work for Truist. He is full time working from home now, and though his wife has to go into the bank, she is getting an increased salary due to the “hazardous” nature of not social distancing. Last week he discussed how he is having his back yard redone, landscaping, rocks brought in, lights out up. Really making it nice. He is home alone all day. Works, plays with his dog. Enjoys the peace and quiet and is loving the solitude. He is completely behind keeping things totally locked down for as long as “science” tells us.

What he has zero familiarity with is those who are now either out of work, have reduced hours, and are now trying to balance work, family, and these government restrictions all while paying bills, home schooling, and facing financial ruin.

I tried to explain to him that there has to be a point it ends, and ends soon because dispute his absolute comfort where his biggest challenge is getting enough wine from Aldi, there are people losing everything they have due to this. Both country folks and those vile city folks.

Poverty in America was once exposed to me as weak when a native of (I believe) India explained that in America poor people wonder when they will eat again. In his country poor people wondered >if< they will eat again. So it’s hard for a man in an ivory castle to understand that while he is fine, and on paper staying in complete and total lock down for another year or so is “scientifically” smart. It is impossible for others.


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Red Marley said:
I wonder how many of those who are imposing rules that close businesses and prevent people from working are losing THEIR livelihood? None I’d bet. Let them lose their income and see how fast things open back up.
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Yes, I think you're on target with that. I have had a similar thought that all of the state politicians and those advising them from State/academic science bodies should have to go onto the new eFMLEA program for their (reduced) salary, with a layoff facing them at the end of the 10-week term. Any/all money saved should go to EMS and nursing supplies and salaries. For sure, Congress should not be getting paid until the economy is open and they are back to 'work'. Or maybe we just furlough THEM for 18 months, for their own health and safety of course.
 
I come from one of those cities, lived there a long time. Now, I'm just close to the city. I do miss some of the non-esential services a real city has to offer, but honestly, sitting on the porch in my rocking chair with the wife watching the goats wander around is way better. Never going back. Never.

I'm not that much of an internet commando, but if you try to come pull me off this land you had best bring friends, and body bags, because at least some of us aren't going to leave any other way.
 
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