The Day After (1983 ABC movie) nuke discussion

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This was on my YT suggested watch videos. Surprisingly good and thought provoking. Well worth the 120min. Left me with a few questions...

1.what US cities are under the most threat of attack and for what reason (military (attack by foreign country), population density (terrorism), etc)
2. What does the average family in our AO (Carolinas) do to prepare for nuclear disaster -think residual effects, blast zone or radiation zone, not so much general food or water preps
3. Since most of us don't have underground options, what is the best alternative?

I don't see us in any major threat, except for Charlotte population which puts us in Top 20 cities.

Here's the full film if you want to watch (7.1 IMDB):

 
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SDIVER2006 said:
I think the greater Fayetteville area is a big target. Living 10.1 miles from Womack I think I'd be crispy
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Outside of the military presence itself, what in Fayetteville is a target? - Or is that essentially what you're getting at?

I considered that, but I also don't know much about where the military stores what.
 
IrishCannon said:
Outside of the military presence itself, what in Fayetteville is a target? - Or is that essentially what you're getting at?

I considered that, but I also don't know much about where the military stores what.
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There are some items stored at Seymour Johnson that I imagine would make it a target.
 
In 1983 there would've been plenty of cars on the road that would still work after the EMP. Now, not so much

I'll watch this later
 
VA_GENTLEMAN said:
I remember that one. And the one called "Threads". If I recall, these were pushed as Mega-After School special to scare everyone that Reagan's Star Wars program was going to lead to MAD.

Am I right on that analysis? Anyone?
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Hammer meet nail. Shot a solid bullseye, you did.

It worked, too! The school actually sent out a "notice" about this movie talking about how horryingly real it would be. So of course we all had to watch it. Coupled with monthly bomb drills where you learn to get under your desk and as we students said "kiss your ass goodbye", it was effective.
Scared the sh!t out of me, frankly. My crazy-eyed, perpetually single, Revelations loving Sunday school teacher helped stoke the fire, too. Bless her heart.
I was positive I was going to die in hellfire from a Ruskie nuke, hehe.
 
From an older cold-war era listing...Soviet strategic targets in NC included Ft. Bragg/Pope (military), Camp Lejune (military), Charlotte (Financial & population center), Morehead City (military SPOE/SPOD), Seymour-Johnson AFB (military), Sunny Point Military Ocean Terminal (military sea terminal)...adjacent to Southport, Raleigh (government), Port of Wilmington (military SPOE/SPOD).

Eastern-half of the state is basically saturated in an all-out strike.

Sorry for the acronyms...
SPOE= Seaport of Embarkation
SPOD= Seaport of Debarkation
BMD= Ballistic Missile Defense

Bragg/Pope was recipient of multiple warheads.
JFYI...every state capital (seat of government) was/is a target.

Also, the only BMD units in the state are at Bragg...at least the launchers are...the rockets themselves are at Bluegrass Army Depot in Kentucky...makes perfect Army sense.
 
Another target in the Carolinas are the nuke plants, aside from the previously mentioned areas. Basically, the entire eastern seaboard is toast, from Maine down to several areas here in Florida.
 
rotorhead said:
Another target in the Carolinas are the nuke plants, aside from the previously mentioned areas. Basically, the entire eastern seaboard is toast, from Maine down to several areas here in Florida.
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Well shit. Oh well. Worse ways to go than being vaporized, I suppose.

I still have a goal of western US living - single story ranch with a large basement. Hopefully I can achieve that before everything goes to total shit, generally speaking, not just nuclear.

These movies are making me think, though. I know next to nothing about protecting against nuclear fallout and radiation. Never really worried about it much. Good knowledge to have I suppose.

Getting back to the topic at hand, what are the best precautions to take in our dwellings here in the Carolinas? - Assuming no basement.
 
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Plastic sheeting and duct tape to make your house as airtight as possible (Crawlspace and attic vents!). Potassium iodide pills to help excrete the most common fallout isotopes that do get into you.

Mass and distance help for radiation so as centered and low in house as possible. It takes a lot of mass to really help though so with no warning there won't be a lot of time to sandbag your house or bobcat up a berm all around. Basement is good, preferably the deepest corner where you are only exposed to 90 degrees of incoming radiation.

And hold your breath until it has rained a couple times too. More seriously, I wouldn't eat more than absolutely necessary, drink much, or exert myself and breathe heavy for several days afterward at least, if possible.

It's all on the margin anyway. Odds are you are either OK (except for cancer odds years later) or doomed no matter what you do.

There are books out there on the subject including some free civil defense type publications.
 
turkeydance said:
find friends/relatives with a basement.
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We're building a house for my parents. It has a dug, below ground, basement, not a walkout, 12" thick poured concrete, sealed space. SHTF was a consideration in the design this house.
 
Downloaded, will watch one evening when we're out on the hook and need something to do.
 
JimP42 said:
Plastic sheeting and duct tape to make your house as airtight as possible (Crawlspace and attic vents!). Potassium iodide pills to help excrete the most common fallout isotopes that do get into you.

Mass and distance help for radiation so as centered and low in house as possible. It takes a lot of mass to really help though so with no warning there won't be a lot of time to sandbag your house or bobcat up a berm all around. Basement is good, preferably the deepest corner where you are only exposed to 90 degrees of incoming radiation.

And hold your breath until it has rained a couple times too. More seriously, I wouldn't eat more than absolutely necessary, drink much, or exert myself and breathe heavy for several days afterward at least, if possible.

It's all on the margin anyway. Odds are you are either OK (except for cancer odds years later) or doomed no matter what you do.

There are books out there on the subject including some free civil defense type publications.
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Good info on the plastic sheeting. Do you recommend a certain thickness? Ready.gov says 4 to 6mil at least. I imagine thicker is better.

I have some iodine drops from the Infowars Life store(same product as from Global Healing Center or Whole Foods) and will probably get some more. I take it regularly as is for thyroid optimization.

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IrishCannon said:
Good info on the plastic sheeting. Do you recommend a certain thickness? Ready.gov says 4 to 6mil at least. I imagine thicker is better.
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It will be tougher and less likely to puncture or tear and let contaminated outside air in but it won't protect you any different otherwise.

Can use for chem/bio also to get some protection if you know it is coming in time to seal up before it gets there. Again, probably only matters if you are on the bubble. Probably actually better for those - chem and bio agents don't stay dangerous nearly as long in the wild as radiation does.
 
Easiest steps:

1. A others mentioned, potassium iodide tablets.

2. Don't overlook your water heater as a fresh water sourcesource.

3. If you are building a house with a basement, adding a room with double concrete wall with dirt in between, concrete and rebar overhead, is pretty inexpensive and well shielded. Put your water heater in it for your water source.



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^^^^^

Yep, discovered that a couple years ago. Have a drink-safe hose for it. When I do a home build Im buying thr biggest damn heater I can get.

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