The Pricing on the SA 35 is Coming Down
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I am not sure if the demand is dropping off because there are other "new" things in the market or if the extractor issues are scaring people away. From what I have been able to find SA is replacing extractors but I cannot find out if they have changed or updated the design.
OP
I have seen a few here and there. I was offered one today for $750 shipped to my FFL but I passed. I am trying to find out what they are doing about the extractor. In the end most people are reporting if you have an issue you can replace it with a FN or C&S part clean up the channel a little bit and then it runs fine.
I still still believe these are being forged and milled somewhere else and SA is just assembling them. Still at MSRP it is a decent deal even if you have to replace an extractor. FNs are still going for $800 + for decent examples.
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Long term I figure if I can get one at a good price, like from work, Id be more then willing to just replace the extractor from jump and install an ambi safety.
Sure, Id like to have an orginal FN, but hey, atleast its not FN's "New and Improved" one. Blech.
Sure, Id like to have an orginal FN, but hey, atleast its not FN's "New and Improved" one. Blech.
OP
$800 shipped with 3 NIW Mecgar 13s. He told me he would take $750 for the pistol and 1 15 rounder. LOL
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Im patient 😀 if it is going to pop up at the store, it will eventually....$800 shipped with 3 NIW Mecgar 13s. He told me he would take $750 for the pistol and 1 15 rounder. LOL
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I want one. But I’ve been around long enough to wait a bit for the growing pains to be worked out. I’ll eventually save up my squirrel money again and find one <$800 and bring it home.
Same for me...
matttahoe53
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I was talking about this pistol yesterday at my LGS, they haven’t had any and I was unaware of the extractor issue until now. My feelings on this is I really wanted one when they first came out but now that time has passed I am indifferent. Definitely never liked the ugly new FN model.
My approach to most purchases is wait a bit before buying to make sure it isn’t just a passing fancy. This isn’t to say I may not pick one of these up down the road at a good used price but as of right now there are other things I’d rather buy. Top of list is a 6” 357 mag revolver.
My approach to most purchases is wait a bit before buying to make sure it isn’t just a passing fancy. This isn’t to say I may not pick one of these up down the road at a good used price but as of right now there are other things I’d rather buy. Top of list is a 6” 357 mag revolver.
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Yup, often when new things come out I get all excited and want one immediately. But often it’s a passing fancy. With this one, it’s still on the list, but for me at least a $650-800 gun just for giggles is a tough pill to swallow as it really doesn’t fit a particular niche for me.
I handled one at the last Dixie show and was not impressed. I'd like to see it next to the Girsan which is a supposedly more exact copy
It's not an exact copy, Springfield has said so. It's based on the HP with some modern updates.
recreationalhandgrenade
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More like trying to cut one up for optics and other shanigans. My fn has plenty of finish missing and my hammer bite scar is pretty big.
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I have modified my fair share of BHPs. I personally would not put and optic on one. The balance in the hand would never be the same. Other enhancements are ok.
recreationalhandgrenade
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if you do lighting cuts you can keep the entire gun the exact same weight.
OP
It is not about the “weight” it is the balance in the hand for me. An optic would alter pretty much everything I love about the BHP. YMMV
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I have handled one but did not buy it. It was priced over MSRP. I have passed on 3 sight unseen LNIB at or near MSRP.
I have not shot one. There are enough things that make me leary of buying one with out inspecting it at this point. Especially used. They are not finished as nice as the FN guns but they have potential IMHO
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I bought a new one yesterday for $650, haven't shot it yet though. Figured I'd try it since it was below msrp.
Will do and I don't have any FN's.
Wardawg
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I have one. Wife got it for me for Christmas. She paid the jacked up price. I told her to wait. She said no. And got it. Now on to the short review. It’s been perfect . I don’t have a high round count through it. Few hundred at most . It’s very nice. I shot nothing but ball mag tech ammo in it. It’s surprising accurate. While I didn’t put the money down for it. There is no regrets. WarDawg
Wardawg
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Like to say I did order a replacement extractor and spring from BHS. I will run the factory one till it gives problems. I love this pistol. I really like my CZ 75. But if I had to choose just one ….. SA35
What are the problems they've been having with the extractors?
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Lots of speculation about the actual cause but lots of failures to extract. A fair number of guns seem to run for about 200-400 rounds and then they start to fail. Some guns have gone back to SA more than once. This gun has gone in once and the owner is "testing" it. Spoiler alert it fails.
Here are some of the possible causes:
-From what I have seen the extractor profile on the SA-35 is different than the FN extractor. Hook is not as pronounced.
-Some of the problem guns show excessive wear on the hook of the extractor leading people to believe they are not properly heat treated
-Springs seem weak compared to the FN spring or spring from BHSS. People speculate the springs are not to spec or not properly heat treated
-The slide serrations are cut into the slide after the extractor channel and some guns have burrs and material present in the channel. This is binding the extractor similar to what you see if you do not clean the channel after high round counts.
Don Williams of the Action Works stated this on the 1911forum:
Many people are simply buying a FN extractor and spring and when the SA-35 fails they are replacing the parts and moving on. These seems to fix most guns. I have heard of one or 2 where they still did not function but those did not function right out of the box and have the burrs in the channel of the extractor. I would imagine if you removed the burrs they would run with the FN extractor.
Two pistols came out about the same time. The SA-35 and the Smith &Wesson M&P 10 mm . I wanted both but refused to pay over MSRP for either one. I found the M&P and waiting for the price to come down on the SA-35 To come down to MSRP or less. So this is good news.
OP
Well I heard and interesting comment from a guy who is st the NRA convention that when he asked Tisas if they had any BHPs clones they told him no those guns go to SA now. 