The Weasel and his fellow RINOs are at it again!

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From GOA:

S. 675, the NICS Denial Notification Act of 2021, is gaining traction in the U.S. Senate.

We urgently need your help to shut this gun control bill down!

The NICS Denial Notification Act would open criminal investigations into 100% of background check denials, even though government studies show 9 out of 10 times these denials are false positives.

Passage of this language would result in criminal investigations into TENS OF THOUSANDS of innocent law-abiding Americans for the non-crime of being denied a gun purchase by a broken background check system each year.

Tell your Senators right away NOT to expand this abysmally broken system.
Who is behind this?

If you’re from Illinois, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, or West Virginia, your Senator is a part of the problem here!

Here is a full list of the Senators who openly support opening criminal investigations into innocent Americans over false-positive NICS denials:

Sen. Coons, Christopher A. (D-DE)
Sen. Cornyn, John (R-TX)
Sen. Duckworth, Tammy (D-IL)
Sen. Rubio, Marco (R-FL)
Sen. Carper, Thomas R. (D-DE)
Sen. Lankford, James (R-OK)
Sen. Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN)
Sen. Collins, Susan M. (R-ME)
Sen. Manchin, Joe, III (D-WV)
Sen. Toomey, Patrick (R-PA)
Sen. Graham, Lindsey (R-SC)
Sen. Shaheen, Jeanne (D-NH)
Sen. Grassley, Chuck (R-IA)
Sen. Leahy, Patrick J. (D-VT)
Sen. Blumenthal, Richard (D-CT)
Sen. Murkowski, Lisa (R-AK)
Sen. Durbin, Richard J. (D-IL)

Terry
 
So. This crap in the senate, and the proposed HR 6575 NICS tax in the house. It looks like the antis have decided to enact gun control through NICS.
 
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I’d love to see prohibited possessors who try to buy a gun prosecuted!

However, this seems to go too far. NICS info is incomplete, inaccurate, dated, and as everyone knows, returns more false negatives than anything else. Putting a blanket rule of investigating every denial is a blatant waste of resources, and surely they’ll ask for more people to do this, wasting tax payer funds while not adding an ounce of value.
 
Seems like the kind of thing that would get instantly bogged down by volume….

Besides, what’s to fear about an investigation if you’re a legal purchaser ?
 
Aren't we always saying "just enforce the existing laws"? I'm sure there is some angle to this, but on the surface it seems legit.....?

I can see it getting bogged down almost instantly if they actually tried to do something, so perhaps it's just a way to justify that 100% funding increase that they can then turn around and use for anything they want. It's not like they have to produce any results on those investigations to get the money.
 
Looks like a request for funding to me.
 
Timfoilhat said:
Looks like a request for funding to me.
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That is normally the case. Grow the beast, headcount and budget. Scam the largest % you can. It’s the public American Public sector way. We’ve had a technological revolution with incredible computing power and still these crooks need bigger and bigger head counts to do administrative work. This is simple graft and incompetence.
 
Congress has been investigating some flavor of the day for years. Money gets appropriated, the news cycle changes and nothing ever surfaces regarding the investigation, or the money that was used. Just a bunch of crooks that deserve bad things in their lives.
This too shall pass into the black hole of our so-called government.
 
Pogue said:
Seems like the kind of thing that would get instantly bogged down by volume….

Besides, what’s to fear about an investigation if you’re a legal purchaser ?
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I mean who cares about the Patriots Act? If you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about. I'm sure it has never been abused. /sarc
 
I used the GOA form letter and modified. It sent one letter to both Limpy G and Tim Scott so I put in a specific lines for each Senator…in other words, they’ll both see what was said about the other. I expressed my ”disappointment“ with Limpy and thanked Scott for not being like Limpy!

Im sure neither will read it, but maybe a staffer will pick up on it and say something to him being compared to Scott! I can only hope…not that it’ll change him one bit! It made me feel a little better though. 😀
 
If this passes how soon before more and more NICS get denied? Easy way to investigate gun owners!
 
Pogue said:
Seems like the kind of thing that would get instantly bogged down by volume….

Besides, what’s to fear about an investigation if you’re a legal purchaser ?
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Not sure if you are serious...

If you are, then you would be ok with being questioned at anytime for anything ? Because after all, you’re not doing anything wrong....
Because that where it leads too.
Just let them in your house to see if you are doing anything criminal ???

You can take that shit and shove it up your ass.
 
Mirac said:
Not sure if you are serious...

If you are, then you would be ok with being questioned at anytime for anything ? Because after all, you’re not doing anything wrong....
Because that where it leads too.
Just let them in your house to see if you are doing anything criminal ???

You can take that shit and shove it up your ass.
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Indeed, because that’s called a police state.

Solzhenitzen had something to say about those.
 
noway2 said:
Solzhenitzen had something to say about those.
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Yep.

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

Terry
 
i would guess that getting a denial would promptly get turned into some administrative policy that you can't try again until the investigation is resolved, if that's not already a policy...
then, of course, they'd be too far behind investigating the 90% false positives... so your case would never clear...
 
I'm sick of this stuff.

I'm voting Lindsey Graham out if I have to vote a hard core Democrat into office to do it.

I'd rather be stabbed in the gut than stabbed in the back. At least I'll see it coming.
 
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Mirac said:
Not sure if you are serious...

If you are, then you would be ok with being questioned at anytime for anything ? Because after all, you’re not doing anything wrong....
Because that where it leads too.
Just let them in your house to see if you are doing anything criminal ???

You can take that shit and shove it up your ass.
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Oh I get it, just think the time wasted on their part would be humorous.

Don’t have to answer questions although you could sit there and grin at them until they’re furious, and nothing to fear about a home search unless there’s a obscure law somewhere that limits the amount of books or Yankee Candles one can own. Hell I’d brew some coffee and offer to help flip through pages just to add to my mockery.

Hell, they may even clear a walking path through my daughters ridiculous toy collection, so that would be a win.

Been watching a ton of constitutional auditors vs police videos lately just for the amusement value, so that maybe contributing to my lax attitude towards it.
 
Pogue said:
Oh I get it, just think the time wasted on their part would be humorous.

Don’t have to answer questions although you could sit there and grin at them until they’re furious, and nothing to fear about a home search unless there’s a obscure law somewhere that limits the amount of books or Yankee Candles one can own. Hell I’d brew some coffee and offer to help flip through pages just to add to my mockery.

Hell, they may even clear a walking path through my daughters ridiculous toy collection, so that would be a win.

Been watching a ton of constitutional auditors vs police videos lately just for the amusement value, so that maybe contributing to my lax attitude towards it.
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Would you open your front door and let any stranger walk in ?

Or just for the man, because that’s what they are, Strangers. They are looking for something to hang you on... to take away your God given right?
It’s acceptable to you that this happens to your fellow countrymen??

You have a disconnect with what Freedom means... just to have a little fun not answering questions.
 
Mirac said:
Would you open your front door and let any stranger walk in ?

Or just for the man, because that’s what they are, Strangers. They are looking for something to hang you on... to take away your God given right?
It’s acceptable to you that this happens to your fellow countrymen??

You have a disconnect with what Freedom means... just to have a little fun not answering questions.
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No disconnect here. I’m well aware that governed doesn’t truly equal freedom.

But like I said, I get it. It’s an invasion of privacy that would effect some more than others.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
i would guess that getting a denial would promptly get turned into some administrative policy that you can't try again until the investigation is resolved, if that's not already a policy...
then, of course, they'd be too far behind investigating the 90% false positives... so your case would never clear...
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That's.... evil. But smart. While a right delayed is a right denied, good luck trying to get the .gov to actually do anything once you're in that limbo land. Like IRS audits, just start sprinkling NICS failures around at random to keep things nice and gummed up.
 
Jayne said:
That's.... evil. But smart. While a right delayed is a right denied, good luck trying to get the .gov to actually do anything once you're in that limbo land. Like IRS audits, just start sprinkling NICS failures around at random to keep things nice and gummed up.
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So much this. I’d bet they could even get artificial failures introduced as a way of measuring the process (like seeing if TSA catches the forbidden item at the screening station).
 
Here‘s Lindseed‘s response to my message to him…don’t think I’ll be getting anything else from him, considering this was the same response I received last time…and didn’t get any follow-up!

Thank you for taking the time to contact me. I appreciate the opportunity to hear from you.

In spite of the high volume of mail I receive daily, I look forward to reviewing your correspondence and providing a response as soon as possible.

As we continue our work in the 117th Congress, I look forward to supporting our troops in the War on Terror, repairing our economy and creating jobs, strengthening Social Security, lowering the tax burden on American families, and making the federal government more accountable and efficient.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if I may be of further assistance to you or your family, and if you need immediate assistance, please call my office at 202-224-5972. If your correspondence pertains to a scheduling request, please fax your request to (202) 224-3808.

Sincerely,

Lindsey Graham
 
willpgn said:
Here‘s Lindseed‘s response to my message to him…don’t think I’ll be getting anything else from him, considering this was the same response I received last time…and didn’t get any follow-up!
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I don't think you could get any clearer proof that the representative system is not working, assuming he's supposed to represent his constituency.
 
willpgn said:
Here‘s Lindseed‘s response to my message to him…don’t think I’ll be getting anything else from him, considering this was the same response I received last time…and didn’t get any follow-up!

Thank you for taking the time to contact me. I appreciate the opportunity to hear from you.

In spite of the high volume of mail I receive daily, I look forward to reviewing your correspondence and providing a response as soon as possible.

As we continue our work in the 117th Congress, I look forward to supporting our troops in the War on Terror, repairing our economy and creating jobs, strengthening Social Security, lowering the tax burden on American families, and making the federal government more accountable and efficient.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if I may be of further assistance to you or your family, and if you need immediate assistance, please call my office at 202-224-5972. If your correspondence pertains to a scheduling request, please fax your request to (202) 224-3808.

Sincerely,

Lindsey Graham
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I got the same canned email today too.

Terry
 
Jerzsubbie said:
I’d love to see prohibited possessors who try to buy a gun prosecuted!

However, this seems to go too far. NICS info is incomplete, inaccurate, dated, and as everyone knows, returns more false negatives than anything else. Putting a blanket rule of investigating every denial is a blatant waste of resources, and surely they’ll ask for more people to do this, wasting tax payer funds while not adding an ounce of value.
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False denial rate exceeds 90%.`That's why Obama removed all personnel from the appeals review section. He wanted all denials to stand.
 
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