I sold my TacSol .22 glock conversion to another forum member (who's learning how picky they are trying to get an ammo combo that works with it on his gen 3 frame) so I pulled the old, old Ciener conversion out of storage just to put something on the poly80 frame. The Ciener isn't threaded and only has 1 (rare) mag so it wasn't ideal for my purposes before which is why I got the TacSol, but that's another story.
It popped right on the poly80 frame, was a little rough at first but otherwise fine:
What was interesting was the mag. Looking at the feed angle, and the fact that the conversion isn't actually normal glock slide hight (it's much shorter) the barrel in the conversion looked like it lined up with the barrel on a G44.
On a lark, I put the G44 mag into the gun with the conversion on, and things really lined up:
The mags are very, very similar in profile:
Snuck out early today, and put some rounds through the frankenstein setup, and it worked (eventually)!
The Poly80, Ceiner top end and G44 mags produced the following results with various ammo types:
Remington 'golden bullet' 36gr PHP: 100% failure - wouldn't cycle, wouldn't fire, some rounds wouldn't even go into the chamber. 100% failure with the ciener mag as well.
Aguila 'super extra' 40gr plated (1250fps): 25% failure - fed and cycled mostly, but a lot of light strikes.
CCI Standard Velocity 40gr lead: 50% failure - fed and fired well, but not enough power to cycle the slide
Remington Thunderbolt 40gr lead: 20% failure - thought it was a winner after the first few mags, but then had feeding issues in the last few. Was much worse with the actual ciener mag.
Agrula 36gr PHP: 0% failure! Only had 1 box of this with me but 40 of them worked perfectly out of 4 different G44 mags, and the last 10 rounds we put through the Ciener mag just to see if it worked and it did.
The G44 mags would even lock the slide back when the gun was empty (the ceiner mag has no provision to hit the slide stop).
More testing is needed, but if the G44 mags work this well with the Agrula 36gr stuff, it could put a whole new life into this 20 year old part.
It popped right on the poly80 frame, was a little rough at first but otherwise fine:
What was interesting was the mag. Looking at the feed angle, and the fact that the conversion isn't actually normal glock slide hight (it's much shorter) the barrel in the conversion looked like it lined up with the barrel on a G44.
On a lark, I put the G44 mag into the gun with the conversion on, and things really lined up:
The mags are very, very similar in profile:
Snuck out early today, and put some rounds through the frankenstein setup, and it worked (eventually)!
The Poly80, Ceiner top end and G44 mags produced the following results with various ammo types:
Remington 'golden bullet' 36gr PHP: 100% failure - wouldn't cycle, wouldn't fire, some rounds wouldn't even go into the chamber. 100% failure with the ciener mag as well.
Aguila 'super extra' 40gr plated (1250fps): 25% failure - fed and cycled mostly, but a lot of light strikes.
CCI Standard Velocity 40gr lead: 50% failure - fed and fired well, but not enough power to cycle the slide
Remington Thunderbolt 40gr lead: 20% failure - thought it was a winner after the first few mags, but then had feeding issues in the last few. Was much worse with the actual ciener mag.
Agrula 36gr PHP: 0% failure! Only had 1 box of this with me but 40 of them worked perfectly out of 4 different G44 mags, and the last 10 rounds we put through the Ciener mag just to see if it worked and it did.
The G44 mags would even lock the slide back when the gun was empty (the ceiner mag has no provision to hit the slide stop).
More testing is needed, but if the G44 mags work this well with the Agrula 36gr stuff, it could put a whole new life into this 20 year old part.
