War in Ukraine (World War III)

Nice to see the United States playing the schmuck card again. I realize that most members here are against supporting Ukraine for whatever reason. Myself, I'd rather the fight be there rather than here. But I'm not trying to get into that debate. It's never ending and totally unconvincing.

We never stand behind our allies of the particular moment. We spend billions in Afghanistan only to leave. And all the people over there who worked with us? God only know the hell they are going thru now.

We never should have gotten involved in Ukraine if we weren't willing to see the thing through. We all knew this would be a hard and expensive undertaking. But now we all want to cut bait and run. We're going to put all kinds of stories up about how the Ukraine elite are getting rich. How their tactics are shady. Rich people are getting richer here too. Corruption happens in every government and every war. And if we were losing a war here, we would use the same tactics. So let's no go there. It's war, and it's ugly. So now the Republicans want to hold up any kind of support. The Ukrainian people are the one's paying. And dearly. Not the elite, they will just leave. And the people left there will continue to pay for daring to fight for their independence when all is said and done. But let's pull our support and look like bigger schmucks. After all, we only guaranteed their borders in the 90's. If your not a man of your word, That alone should have us willing to do what is necessary.

The Israelis will be next. Already a bunch of lunacy about how they are fighting a dirty war. College kids doxed on campus simply because they are Jewish and not a thing was done about it. So we'll be bailing on that one also. And soon.

Does anybody else out there get tired of feeling like a schmuck?
 
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Jperr said:
Nice to see the United States playing the schmuck card again. I realize that most members here are against supporting Ukraine for whatever reason. Myself, I'd rather the fight be there rather than here. But I'm not trying to get into that debate. It's never ending and totally unconvincing.

We never stand behind our allies of the particular moment. We spend billions in Afghanistan only to leave. And all the people over there who worked with us? God only know the hell they are going thru now.

We never should have gotten involved in Ukraine if we weren't willing to see the thing through. We all knew this would be a hard and expensive undertaking. But now we all want to cut bait and run. We're going to put all kinds of stories up about how the Ukraine elite are getting rich. How their tactics are shady. Rich people are getting richer here too. Corruption happens in every government and every war. And if we were losing a war here, we would use the same tactics. So let's no go there. It's war, and it's ugly. So now the Republicans want to hold up any kind of support. The Ukrainian people are the one's paying. And dearly. Not the elite, they will just leave. And the people left there will continue to pay for daring to fight for their independence when all is said and done. But let's pull our support and look like bigger schmucks. After all, we only guaranteed their borders in the 90's. If you’re not a man of your That alone should have us willing to do what is necessary.

The Israelis will be next. Already a bunch of lunacy about how they are fighting a dirty war. College kids doxed on campus simply because they are Jewish and not a thing was done about it. So we'll be bailing on that one also. And soon.

Does anybody else out there get tired of feeling like a schmuck?
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At this point, we're schmucks all the way around. The war in Ukraine shouldn't be happening at all. Russia was drawn into it by our government taunting them with NATO membership for Ukraine to begin with. Russia doesn't want NATO on their border any more than we wanted Russian missiles in Cuba during the 60's.

As for Israel, you didn't think this bunch of Godless deviants called our government would truly align with God's chosen people for long, did you?

All of this is spiritual warfare out in the open. There are spiritual reasons that the devils in charge picked a fight with Russia. Of course, everything concerning Israel is spiritual, and always has been.

Sadly, our nation is falling in line on the wrong sides. But, when you look at who's calling the shots, it's not hard to understand.
 
Jperr said:
Nice to see the United States playing the schmuck card again. I realize that most members here are against supporting Ukraine for whatever reason. Myself, I'd rather the fight be there rather than here. But I'm not trying to get into that debate. It's never ending and totally unconvincing.

We never stand behind our allies of the particular moment. We spend billions in Afghanistan only to leave. And all the people over there who worked with us? God only know the hell they are going thru now.

We never should have gotten involved in Ukraine if we weren't willing to see the thing through. We all knew this would be a hard and expensive undertaking. But now we all want to cut bait and run. We're going to put all kinds of stories up about how the Ukraine elite are getting rich. How their tactics are shady. Rich people are getting richer here too. Corruption happens in every government and every war. And if we were losing a war here, we would use the same tactics. So let's no go there. It's war, and it's ugly. So now the Republicans want to hold up any kind of support. The Ukrainian people are the one's paying. And dearly. Not the elite, they will just leave. And the people left there will continue to pay for daring to fight for their independence when all is said and done. But let's pull our support and look like bigger schmucks. After all, we only guaranteed their borders in the 90's. If your not a man of your word,That alone should have us willing to do what is necessary.

The Israelis will be next. Already a bunch of lunacy about how they are fighting a dirty war. College kids doxed on campus simply because they are Jewish and not a thing was done about it. So we'll be bailing on that one also. And soon.

Does anybody else out there get tired of feeling like a schmuck?
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I feel like a schmuck when we pour billions into nations that spy on us, despise us and treat us like a cash cow.
 
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I typically stay away from this Ukraine crap. But I just wanted to share good or bad take it as you like.

I first heard this old tune back in 69 or so. I did not like it because at that time is was to me and others just more insults to Marines recently returning from Vietnam.
But over the decades I have intentionally listened to it as a refresher. And I find it so true the more I listen to it.

When I think of my Grandpa, my Dad, myself and my oldest son all being a veterans from our own wars it really hits home. I mean the stupid of it all hits home. The waste.

I got ONE grandson who just turned 18 last October. He graduates next month. I'll spend every damn dime I got and do everything I can to be sure his ass NEVER goes in the F-ing military! Except I won't send him to Canada.;)


 
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First, on April 11th, several Ukrainian drones struck an ammunition factory in Russia:

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Then, four and six days following Ukraine’s strike on the Russian ammo plant, two ammunition factories — one in the United States and one in Britain, both producing artillery shells for Ukraine, both within two days of each other — ‘accidentally’ burst into flames, purely coincidentally, nothing to see here, no conspiracies, it happens all the time. From the Sun: “Reports: Fire breaks out at Scranton plant producing shells for Ukraine. The UK Express: “South Wales explosion: Firefighters rush to BAE systems military weapons factory.”

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If we can suss out the rules of the game of this tit-for-tat, factory-fire competition, why can’t the government see it? Call me naive, but I assume the FBI would have said something, if only to warn manufacturing plant owners to hire some more security guards or something.

And … why can’t the media see it? Is there a single independent journalist left who is not a sold-out government agent?

That said, I did appreciate how the Sun’s headline editor at least tossed us a little hint, by mentioning right in the headline the key fact that the damaged Scranton plant makes artillery shells for Ukraine. Hmm. Could that fact be somehow related? The article didn’t speculate.

One supposes it won’t matter how many billions are approved for Ukraine if the shell-making factories can’t work.
 
 
Smoke machines to blind the drones.

The forum is erasing the start at current time, it's 4:19.

 
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Are you using Brave too? Two Firefox people told me it started at the right time for them.
 
Good bit at 16:30 when he asks him to explain the western hatred of Putin.

 
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Good bit at 16:30 when he asks him to explain the western hatred of Putin.

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For anyone curious but doesnt have time to read, the TL:DR version is: The left hates Putin because he doesnt want to make your sons gay, your daughters androgenous, your marriage worthless, and you worth as a man nothing.
 
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