Here’s a link to the letter he ATF sent Q ...
https://mcusercontent.com/557cc802f...5cd2/Q_LLC_6_02_02814_Cease_Desist_Letter.pdf
It’s seems the ATF believes the “design” and/or “intent” of it is to be fired from the shoulder so the ATF is pulling the plug. The real worry here is SD Braces are used by Q ... how long before home built AR pistols with braces are considered designed or built by a citizen to be fired from the shoulder? Like DCG reminds us ... remember bump stocks?
Thank you.Q's response
No, it is to move the brace to the best arm position for comfort and bracing, and to accommodate different size and length arms.Again, I think the brace telescopes. Obviously to make it shoulderable.
So will it come down to ...
This one is legal ...
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... and this one is illegal
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... basically because of that little piece of plastic on the buffer tube?
I’ll admit I had a rubber cane tip on my AR pistol lower buffer tube before the “brace race” started. In fact I think it’s in one of my parts take off bins from years back.
Wish in one hand crap in the other.........These ain't bump stocks folks. These types of braces are almost as prevalent and ubiquitous it would be completely bat shit to try to ban them AND enforce the ban. Having said that, they will likely try.
So again, we as gun owners have got to stay united and aligned with both our narrative and persistence.
I'll be drafting my letters to my government officials tomorrow and they will be both emailed and physically mailed in.
Hence why I said "they will likely try".Wish in one hand crap in the other.........
They don’t care what the Plebs think.
I don't understand why the ATF gets to create law, interpret law and enforce law at the same time.
Don’t bet on it ... if Biden does win think what 1 month of Slo Joe & 3 years 11 months of The Ho will turn the US into.Simple, because no one will stop them. If you don't agree, they'll just use some force against you (by proxy, I'm sure they can get some of those friendly soldiers of the crown to do their dirty work for them).
But by all means, vote because this dbag is better than the other dbag.
I'm just glad I'll be dead before the whole place turns into california/ny/chicago.
Yeah - you would think the ATF would be pro gun - because when Harris is prez and bans pretty much everything that's not a muzzle loader - guess who's not needed any more? lolDon’t bet on it ... if Biden does win think what 1 month of Slo Joe & 3 years 11 months of The Ho will turn the US into.
Congress gave that responsibility to the executive branch.I don't understand why the ATF gets to create law, interpret law and enforce law at the same time.
You're forgetting the "alcohol" and "tobacco" part of ATF.Yeah - you would think the ATF would be pro gun - because when Harris is prez and bans pretty much everything that's not a muzzle loader - guess who's not needed any more? lol
For all departments or just the ATF? Can any department (FBI etc.) just change the law/interpret the law to fit the requirement for their current need?Congress gave that responsibility to the executive branch.
Agreed - but if they just become the AT, that's got to drop a considerable amount of required employees. Having said that it's government, and seems like they just do whatever the hell they want anyway so...You're forgetting the "alcohol" and "tobacco" part of ATF.
And goddammit if we won't need more alcohol if the Dems win.
Any regulatory agency. It keeps congressmen’s hands clean. If you don’t like a law don’t blame me the EPA ATF et al passed it not congress. Congress tied their own hands on purpose for reelection.For all departments or just the ATF? Can any department (FBI etc.) just change the law/interpret the law to fit the requirement for their current need?
Agreed - but if they just become the AT, that's got to drop a considerable amount of required employees. Having said that it's government, and seems like they just do whatever the hell they want anyway so...
Might as well just move back to the UK.
BS. The bear is unconstitutional and should be treated as such and not just avoided.That’s cuze people kept poking the bear
Looks like an SBR to me too. Doesn't look like a brace at all to me, but I never handled one. Could be different in person?
Again, I think the brace telescopes. Obviously to make it shoulderable.
Wow guys.
It's clear from what the ATF wrote that if the intent is for it to be shouldered then it is an SBR. I'm just saying they went too the edge. Im certainly not saying it's not total BS on the part of the ATF. I have a pistol and no one is going to get it and i'm going to continue to shoot it.
Wow what?
Ill say wow back acha
All this ‘stick together and abolish the ATF’ stuff is nice but it has zeeero to do with the topic. The company who made this SBR and marketed it as a pistol is not waving that banner, they’re playing the ATFs game. I hope they win.
Now ya’ll get back to your fantasies