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A friend called and said he wants me to help him hunt this critter on a farm where it is botherin' the livestock.

Can't go for a couple weeks, but I'm lookin' forward to it. [IMG2=JSON]{"data-align":"none","data-size":"full","src":"http:\/\/www.marlinowners.com\/forum\/images\/smilies\/new\/top.gif"}[/IMG2]


 
That's worthy of a full mount!
 
Yeah, that don't.look like a yote.. More like someone's pet.
Hopefully, you find out which and you post some pics.
Good luck.
 
Looks like it has husky in it. Maybe Shepherd/Husky mix. I would agree it looks like someone's pet
 
Definitely not a coyote.

Looks to be a domesticated dog.
Better try and locate an owner.
Or if you do eliminate it, the 3 s's come into play.

And the "friend" needs to be able maintain his silence because its all on you.
 
Someone needs to learn to control their pet a little better. Has anyone tried to approach this animal? With caution of course.
 
If it has injured or killed any livestock you don't need the 3 S's. The law is pretty clear on dispatching nuisance animals.

If if it is simply bothering the livestock I'd try to trap the animal first and check for a collar.

The law law holds the owner liable for damage to livestock.
 
Scott88;n98238 said:
That's a dog. Treat it as you would like someone to treat yours.

If my "dog" was out bothering people's livestock, I couldn't be surprised if someone shot it.
 
11B CIB;n98255 said:
If my "dog" was out bothering people's livestock, I couldn't be surprised if someone shot it.

I wouldn't be surprised either, but my point remains.

I have dogs (that look more like a coyote than the OP) and I have livestock.
 
Chdamn;n98195 said:
If it has injured or killed any livestock you don't need the 3 S's. The law is pretty clear on dispatching nuisance animals.

If if it is simply bothering the livestock I'd try to trap the animal first and check for a collar.

The law law holds the owner liable for damage to livestock.

Laws don't always pan out the way they should.

and you still have to defend yourself in a lawsuit. :D
 
I had words with a neighbor with cattle decades ago. I had an escape artist dog that would run the cows when she got out. I was trying to be civil and told him she kept getting out and I would do my best to keep her contained and apologized up and down. I built her a pen buried in the ground etc. I finally caught her climbing a 6ft fence. He told me "one more time and I'll shoot the dog". Well, one day I open my back door and there is a cow standing there 2-3 feet from my door. Scared the hell out of me actually.I went to him and told him his cow got out. "If it happens one more time, I'll be eating steaks"

We never spoke again. My point would be at least try and do the right thing. He has all rights to dispatch the dog/wolf/coyote and I don't disagree. There are two sides to every story. I have heard huskies can be big escape artists. Mine wasn't but I have heard that before.
 
Tailhunter;n98293 said:
Laws don't always pan out the way they should.

and you still have to defend yourself in a lawsuit. :D

Possibly but doubtful. I've actually seen this happen before. A neighbors dogs were chasing a guy I knows cows. He didn't hesitate, didn't call the owner he shot them.

The owner of the dogs called the sherrif who paid the guy a visit. He told the sherrif what happened and he sherrif informed the owner he had no recourse.

The guy filed a lawsuit and it was thrown out by the judge. And that was the end of it.


If you own animals you need to be responsible for them and their actions. And legally you are. If your dogs kill my chickens or cows you are on the hook for that.


just to be clear I don't agree with just shooting a dog if it isn't attacking you, your family or your livestock. I think you can use other measures first. Starting with contacting the owner of the dog. Followed by less than lethal methods to discuurage. But legally you are not required to.
 
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Sp00ks;n98358 said:
... I have heard huskies can be big escape artists. ...

Had a neighbor with a husky pup. When it was maybe 6-8 months old it would get stuck between the gate and the wall in just a sliver of space trying to get out. When it did get out, it ran for long distances in a straight line. lol
 
Catfish;n98514 said:
Not required to no, but if someone reading this is the kind of guy looking for a chance to go out and shoot someone's dog go ahead and tell me here so I can be sure to avoid you in person.

You notice I said a guy I know not a friend of mine. I'm pretty sure he shot this guys dogs over a dispute with him. Since the dogs can't tell their side of the story he's in the clear.

I would not be surprised if I found out that the dogs weren't actually anywhere near the cows when shot.
 
I had a dog get in our fenced back yard and kill 2 chickens. I saw it and ran him off. He came back 2 days later and killed another. I shot him with a 9mm twice. Called the sheriff office and reported the shooting. Deputy came, got my story, said I was in the right. Said if the owner called in he would let me know so I could get the cost of my chicken from them.
 
S S S

If you got talk to the owner, they will assure you that their precious little delicate snowflake undisciplined mutt knows their property lines, and would never leave the property and kill your chickens. Right after the showdog coughs up a feather.
 
Well, it's certainly not a full blooded anything. But don't rule out a coy-dog. The park ranger in the smokies told me they had one that looked so much like a german shepherd they where afraid people would try to pet it or catch it. They were trying to trap it or kill it before that happened. That looks a lot like one I saw in the smokies that had a lot of red wolf in it, except it was actually red.

Also, it's awfully healthy looking. Which either means its domesticated, or a really smart coy-dog. Better than half the yotes I see are mangy or scrawny critters.
 
chiefjason;n98787 said:
Also, it's awfully healthy looking. Which either means its domesticated, or a really smart coy-dog. Better than half the yotes I see are mangy or scrawny critters.
Tha's what I thought... 'yotes are leaner.

When I meet the farmer whose camera took the picture, I'll get the details. I wanna go 'yote huntin', but I want to kill 'yotes, not dogs. I'll find out what "botherin'" means in this case.
 
Looks like a Great Pyrenees with a wolfs head.
 
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SimpleMan;n99486 said:
Looks like a Great Pyrenees with a wolfs head.

Definitely not at Pyr's head. Pyr's ears do not stand up.
 
That. Is. A. Dog.
Proceed with extreme caution and moral high ground. I'm all for killing, sheep killing dogs, I have done plenty. You had better be able to prove more than just a passing proximity.

I killed two full grown Akitas once, I could have, and did shout it from the rooftops. They killed and mostly ate 5- 2 week old lambs, and killed a full grown ewe.I literally came home from school to find them in the pasture enjoying a rest after their ample picnic. I wanted to grind them up in k9 hamburger and dump them on my neighbors lawn.

Make sure it is inside the wire with proven intent, then SSS....Especially this day and age.
 
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Looks like a long haired American White Shepherd. Check the price tag on one of those guys before you drop the hammer on it. They are very very expensive dogs.....
 
Criminalcamel;n100999 said:
Looks like a long haired American White Shepherd. Check the price tag on one of those guys before you drop the hammer on it. They are very very expensive dogs.....

If an expensive dog is attacking livestock, the owner is the one that should be concerned about the cost of the dog, and the cost of the animals his dog injured.
 
trcubed;n101005 said:
If an expensive dog is attacking livestock, the owner is the one that should be concerned about the cost of the dog, and the cost of the animals his dog injured.

I live on a Dairy / Chicken farm, so no arguments from me there. If it is damaging livestock, it's ticket is punched, but if it is sniffing the grass on the side of the pasture, it would take a hard hearted individual to blast his neighbor's pet. I have a White Shepherd and it is likely drawn to the livestock because of it's natural herding and protective instincts. It more likely to defend the farmer's cattle from an actual coyote than it is to harm them. Hell, mine herds my 8 month old away from stuff he knows he isn't supposed to be into. A word with the neighbor would likely solve this one
 
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Criminalcamel;n101015 said:
I live on a Dairy / Chicken farm, so no arguments from me there. If it is damaging livestock, it's ticket is punched, but if it is sniffing the grass on the side of the pasture, it would take a hard hearted individual to blast his neighbor's pet. I have a White Shepherd and it is likely drawn to the livestock because of it's natural herding and protective instincts. It more likely to defend the farmer's cattle from an actual coyote than it is to harm them. Hell, mine herds my 8 month old away from stuff he knows he isn't supposed to be into. A word with the neighbor would likely solve this one

Excellent point.
 
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