Why HAVEN'T you shot your first match yet?

[FlatFender]

I have a deep-rooted love for helping people get started in competitive shooting. It's been the thing that's helped me become a much better shooter in the 6.5 years I've been at it, but I wanted to get started a decade before I actually did, because I didn't know where to start.

So, if you're interested in competitive shooting, but haven't shot your first match yet, why not?

 

[Errant_Venture]

I work a job that gives me one weekend off a month, in writing. My wife works M-F 9-6. Often, I don't even get that weekend. Thus, my weekend gets devoted to family time.

I'd love to shoot competitively, even knowing I'm not good at it, but until I find a career that allows it, I'm stuck. Family first, then God, then my friends. Everything else after. Before anyone says it, the big man knows my heart, and I'll answer to him and him alone for my priorities!

 

[FlatFender]

I work a job that gives me one weekend off a month, in writing. My wife works M-F 9-6. Often, I don't even get that weekend. Thus, my weekend gets devoted to family time.

I'd love to shoot competitively, even knowing I'm not good at it, but until I find a career that allows it, I'm stuck. Family first, then God, then my friends. Everything else after. Before anyone says it, the big man knows my heart, and I'll answer to him and him alone for my priorities!

I understand that. I used to work every other weekend, and making it to matches was rough when I had to balance family time in there too.

 

[slow is slow]

I think fear of finding out true skill level keeps many away. I've offered countless times to outfit someone with my old rig, ammo, pay the match fee and pick them up, just to have someone to shoot with and have been turned down every time by multiple people. I think many also feel the need to have the best equipment before showing up. Another thing that would help, but it's not really known is that shooters seem to be the nicest and most welcoming group of people in any sport I've ever been involved with. It can be intimidating to be the new guy, but once you show up, most people continue to come back. Just my .02

 

[foopid stucker]

I don't shoot matches because I am cheap...and the money I save can be spent on ammo proving I can suck all by myself. besides I already know I am all kinds of awesome and do not wish to make anyone feel inferior...... lol

 

[FlatFender]

I don't shoot matches because I am cheap...and the money I save can be spent on ammo proving I can suck all by myself. besides I already know I am all kinds of awesome and do not wish to make anyone feel inferior...... lol

So you're afraid of getting beat by a fat accountant?

 

[foopid stucker]

no. I am too cheap to pay to prove it...if you are lucky you may just end up next to me at the range and I will make you look awesome too....

actually am thinking of doing some bullseye but my wife just lost her job and money ay be getting tight

 

[Hammer12b]

I have no excuse. I have the time, money, equipment but lack the motivation to do so. I've thought about it several times and just didn't go. I guess it's the not knowing the rules, knowing I'd suck tight off the bat until I get my feet on the ground and having to travel to do most of it. And yeah, maybe getting beat by that fat accountant plays in some.

 

[Slacker]

I think fear of finding out true skill level keeps many away. I've offered countless times to outfit someone with my old rig, ammo, pay the match fee and pick them up, just to have someone to shoot with and have been turned down every time by multiple people. I think many also feel the need to have the best equipment before showing up. Another thing that would help, but it's not really known is that shooters seem to be the nicest and most welcoming group of people in any sport I've ever been involved with. It can be intimidating to be the new guy, but once you show up, most people continue to come back. Just my .02

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​​​​​​if anyone in the RTP/Burlington area is interested in trying USPSA/2 Gun or simply shooting on a timer, message me.

 

[Majicmike]

I guess in my cause its like most things in life,,The first time is the hardest. Hopefully Im going with a buddy to the next match at H20.Plus I really am a lousy shot

 

[Geezer]

I shoot every Sunday and in between when I can. We do timed drills to simulate real life situations that may arise, plink, and just enjoy listening to the steel ring, I don't feel the need to pay to compete with others and I'm not sure what it proves. I feel comfortable in my ability to remove myself from a bad event and defend myself if necessary.

 

[Elenaidan]

The last "match" I shot was a fun match at Franks place probably two years ago. I think I am just lazy. I have been getting ammo together for when I retire. Gradually buying reloading supplies and targets. Trying to finish the never ending back yard shed one board at a time (so I will have a place to reload). I have a target date in 6 years to be fully prepared to do nothing but shoot, hunt, birdwatch, canoe, camp, hike, bushcraft, and fish every weekend. Is shooting matches fun and something I really want to do? Heck yeah. I just need to get my kids grown and work off my arse to a degree. When I eventually make it out, I hope to see many of you there.

 

[FlatFender]

I shoot every Sunday and in between when I can. We do timed drills to simulate real life situations that may arise, plink, and just enjoy listening to the steel ring, I don't feel the need to pay to compete with others and I'm not sure what it proves. I feel comfortable in my ability to remove myself from a bad event and defend myself if necessary.

It doesn't prove anything, but it does let you see what's actually possible and gives you milestones to work towards.

 

[Wolffy]

It doesn't prove anything, but it does let you see what's actually possible and gives you milestones to work towards.

It proves the same thing any sport does.

 

[Tailhunter]

I competed heavily on the archery scene.

Won state championships, competed with people all across the east coast, did really well.
It was great fun. Wife went with me also.
Finally got tired of the BS.

I imagine that gun games are the same way.

Besides I could reuse my "bullets" over and over again at no additional cost.

 

[Hammer12b]

The last "match" I shot was a fun match at Franks place probably two years ago. I think I am just lazy. I have been getting ammo together for when I retire. Gradually buying reloading supplies and targets. Trying to finish the never ending back yard shed one board at a time (so I will have a place to reload). I have a target date in 6 years to be fully prepared to do nothing but shoot, hunt, birdwatch, canoe, camp, hike, bushcraft, and fish every weekend. Is shooting matches fun and something I really want to do? Heck yeah. I just need to get my kids grown and work off my arse to a degree. When I eventually make it out, I hope to see many of you there.

Let me know how this works out for ya! I retired 4 years ago this month and had all the above to do. I bought a Old Towne canoe from Curt then and it hasn't seen the water yet, can't hike anymore cause I've got nerve damage in my legs and feet from too many years in combat boots doing things to hurt me, I fly fish some but not to the degree that I did before I retired. I do shoot, and I'm still pretty good at it. I do spend a lot of time in the mountains either at my cabin or in the camper that I bought the wife. I do want to shoot some matches but as stated previously, I'm getting lazy. I hope that you do all you want, and retirement works out for you, as for me, I hate it!

 

[Pogue]

Not knowing anyone involved would be my #1 excuse......I'm sure I would come up with others if I did make someones acquaintance though! lol

 

[FlatFender]

Not knowing anyone involved would be my #1 excuse......I'm sure I would come up with others if I did make someones acquaintance though! lol

You know all of us. If you ever decided you want to come out, any of us would be happy to show you the ropes.

 

[Mike V]

All of the above, and in addition, and present company excepted, I have concerns about commitment to safety. I have read several threads recently, on several forums, about people getting hurt when it should have been foreseen (in my opinion.)

The idea of shooting over peoples heads, people routinely getting hit by ricochets, having people absentmindedly pointing weapons in other peoples direction, and accidental or negligent discharges just do not appeal to me. And these things are compounded, in my mind, when I frequently read people defending these actions as part of the sport.

I was really getting close to giving it a try but then a couple of weeks ago a shooting occurred in California at a match. In researching about it, I came across numerous occurrences of the above and it has deterred me from being interested.

 

[Crunchy Frog]

I understand that some folks are not interested in organized shooting events, especially competitive shooting. I asm constantly amazed, though, at the shooters who say that they want to get involved in a particular shooting sport, some of them spending serious money on guns and gear, but who never make it to a match. I have been shooting cowboy action for seven years. We made a serious effort to recruit new shooters a few years back, both from within the membership of the "host" club, and from the local shooting community in general. There were many people who expressed interest but only a small percentage came out.

Most competitive shooters are nice people who enjoy hanging out with people who share their interest in firearms. I don't think I have ever seen anyone belittle a new shooter for their lack of experience or level of performance. Instead I see the experienced folks encouraging and helping the beginners.

My Match Director gave a new shooter some perspective on this: "Don't expect to impress everyone with your speed, because you don't have it yet. It will come in time. Impress everyone by being safe."

I tell new shooters that matches run on volunteer labor. Too many people want to pay their entry fee, shoot and go home without pitching in. If you want to make a good impression as a new shooter, show up and say, "How can I help?". People who are willing to help are always welcome.

If you think you might be interested in getting involved, turn off your computer and get yourself to a local match. Bring " eyes and ears" and check out the match. Shooting disciplines are different so check out a couple of them. If one appeals to you, ask about how you can get started.

The most common regret I hear participants express is "I wish I would have started shooting years ago."

 

[Errant_Venture]

I think fear of finding out true skill level keeps many away. I've offered countless times to outfit someone with my old rig, ammo, pay the match fee and pick them up, just to have someone to shoot with and have been turned down every time by multiple people. I think many also feel the need to have the best equipment before showing up. Another thing that would help, but it's not really known is that shooters seem to be the nicest and most welcoming group of people in any sport I've ever been involved with. It can be intimidating to be the new guy, but once you show up, most people continue to come back. Just my .02

Sounds like my idea of paradise.

Let me know how this works out for ya! I retired 4 years ago this month and had all the above to do. I bought a Old Towne canoe from Curt then and it hasn't seen the water yet, can't hike anymore cause I've got nerve damage in my legs and feet from too many years in combat boots doing things to hurt me, I fly fish some but not to the degree that I did before I retired. I do shoot, and I'm still pretty good at it. I do spend a lot of time in the mountains either at my cabin or in the camper that I bought the wife. I do want to shoot some matches but as stated previously, I'm getting lazy. I hope that you do all you want, and retirement works out for you, as for me, I hate it!

The irony being, I would absolutely love to do stuff like that, and won't be able to for years. Ever get that feeling of needing a new job? Still, wife and the bills gotta have their due.

 

[FlatFender]

All of the above, and in addition, and present company excepted, I have concerns about commitment to safety. I have read several threads recently, on several forums, about people getting hurt when it should have been foreseen (in my opinion.)

The idea of shooting over peoples heads, people routinely getting hit by ricochets, having people absentmindedly pointing weapons in other peoples direction, and accidental or negligent discharges just do not appeal to me. And these things are compounded, in my mind, when I frequently read people defending these actions as part of the sport.

I was really getting close to giving it a try but then a couple of weeks ago a shooting occurred in California at a match. In researching about it, I came across numerous occurrences of the above and it has deterred me from being interested.

Shooting over peoples heads: Never, ever seen it at a match, never seen a range that allowed this to happen.

People routinely getting hit by ricochets: spall can come off a steel target any time. It's not just a match thing. If targets are setup properly though, it doesn't really happen.

People absentmindedly pointing weapons in other peoples direction: If this were to happen, it's an automatic disqualification in any game. I can guarantee that it happens less at an organized competition than at a regular shooting range. Guns are only allowed to be handled under the direction of a range officer, or in the safe area (usually a table pushed up against a berm) and no ammo is allowed to be handled in the safe area.

Accidental/Negligent discharges: Like the above comment, they happen less at matches than at the regular shooting range.

If you'd like to come observe a match sometime, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised by the level of responsibility and safety you see. The incident in California was absolutely terrible, but it looks like it occurred due to the negligence of the range owners.

 

[Mike V]

Shooting over peoples heads: Never, ever seen it at a match, never seen a range that allowed this to happen.

People routinely getting hit by ricochets: spall can come off a steel target any time. It's not just a match thing. If targets are setup properly though, it doesn't really happen.

People absentmindedly pointing weapons in other peoples direction: If this were to happen, it's an automatic disqualification in any game. I can guarantee that it happens less at an organized competition than at a regular shooting range. Guns are only allowed to be handled under the direction of a range officer, or in the safe area (usually a table pushed up against a berm) and no ammo is allowed to be handled in the safe area.

Accidental/Negligent discharges: Like the above comment, they happen less at matches than at the regular shooting range.

If you'd like to come observe a match sometime, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised by the level of responsibility and safety you see. The incident in California was absolutely terrible, but it looks like it occurred due to the negligence of the range owners.

Thanks. I appreciate the offer. And you aren't the first to offer, so I fully get the generous attitude of those involved, but most things I do in life I apply a risk/reward evaluation and I think I will pass for now.

 

[Beef15]

Shooting over peoples heads: Never, ever seen it at a match, never seen a range that allowed this to happen.

Might be talking about working the target pits?

 

[Mike V]

Take a look at this thread, here on this forum. https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...s-and-views/59371-accidental-death-at-a-match

This is what got me looking around. No real debate here. I am not saying anyone is wrong for doing what they do. I just saw enough that I came to the conclusion it is not for me.

 

[Wolffy]

Take a look at this thread, here on this forum. https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...s-and-views/59371-accidental-death-at-a-match

This is what got me looking around. No real debate here. I am not saying anyone is wrong for doing what they do. I just saw enough that I came to the conclusion it is not for me.

Pretty obvious that your mind is made up. And that is your choice. But for many of the rest of us it is a true passion. Is there danger? Of course there is. As there is in everything we do in our life.

 

[FatboyFlash]

https://youtu.be/d_T9ryNQhd0

 

[NCMedic]

Time.... I work or have work commitments 18 days in February, work every other weekend. As much as I would like to shoot more matches sometimes they simply just don't align with the days I am off. Plus home commitments.

Money....I just priced out a belt, holster and mag pouches, $175... Give or take, add ammo, gas, match fees, plus eye and ear protection.... First time shooter starting out probably is going to have to drop $300 for a pistol match. More if you are doing a 2 or 3 gun match. My wife will go shoot a match with me... Which is awesome. But at twice the cost.

​​​​​​Fear of sucking..... Self explanatory.

Rules... Not so much adhering to them but the fact that each discipline has their own rules. IDPA, IPSC, USPSA, etc....I see where it's confusing and overwhelming. Do I need a cover garment for this or not, is my pistol legal etc.



​​​Those are probably the top for me and I'd imagine most others. I went to some of the ZSA matches when they were being held at Eagle in Raleigh... It was a good time and atmosphere even though the range wasn't great.
If there were more matches that were of the "run what you brung" nature and weren't concerned if I were using a Serpa and my pocket for mag pouches, being safe and making myself a better shooter, I'd try to get to each of those

 

[dmarbell]

So you're afraid of getting beat by a fat accountant?

And yeah, maybe getting beat by that fat accountant plays in some.

Hey, I resemble that remark!

This fat accountant is training hard to learn to shoot, so both of you keep your eyes on the rear view mirror.

 

[fieldgrade]

I shoot IDPA every Saturday. Someone here, he knows who he is, stayed after me for a year before I finally consented to show up to a match. It is the most fun I have ever had with my pants on. Match fee is $20 at any of the five ranges I shoot. shoot a couple of boxes of 9mm, and the only additional gear I have beyond the pistols I already owned is a kydex holster and mag carrier. I could use my regular carry gear if I wanted to. I don't compete with anyone but me.

I am now much more confident in my ability to handle myself and my weapon in a defensive scenario than I ever was before. I learned first hand how guns can fail in ways I never imagined, how ammo fails, gear fails, and how hard it is to shoot accurately in otherwise "normal" shooting scenarios other than just standing there punching holes in paper, which I had stopped doing because it bored the snot out of me.

Here' the best part that I can never put a price on. I have made a ton of friends, enjoy the camaraderie of shooting with them, the new ones I meet every week, and breaking bread with the regulars after matches every week. I would not change any of it for the world, and if it cost twice as much I would still do it.

 

[Wolffy]

I shoot IDPA every Saturday. Someone here, he knows who he is, stayed after me for a year before I finally consented to show up to a match. It is the most fun I have ever had with my pants on. Match fee is $20 at any of the five ranges I shoot. shoot a couple of boxes of 9mm, and the only additional gear I have beyond the pistols I already owned is a kydex holster and mag carrier. I could use my regular carry gear if I wanted to. I don't compete with anyone but me.

I am now much more confident in my ability to handle myself and my weapon in a defensive scenario than I ever was before. I learned first hand how guns can fail in ways I never imagined, how ammo fails, gear fails, and how hard it is to shoot accurately in otherwise "normal" shooting scenarios other than just standing there punching holes in paper, which I had stopped doing because it bored the snot out of me.

Here' the best part that I can never put a price on. I have made a ton of friends, enjoy the camaraderie of shooting with them, the new ones I meet every week, and breaking bread with the regulars after matches every week. I would not change any of it for the world, and if it cost twice as much I would still do it.

Whole lot of truth right there

 

[FlatFender]

Take a look at this thread, here on this forum. https://www.carolinafirearmsforum.c...s-and-views/59371-accidental-death-at-a-match

This is what got me looking around. No real debate here. I am not saying anyone is wrong for doing what they do. I just saw enough that I came to the conclusion it is not for me.

Just re-read that entire thread, don't really see anything in it that's of concern, other than the one range in Raleigh that's known for sending ricochets back at shooters (all the time, during their regular public range hours, and in matches) so I'm not sure why we're skewering matches.

 

[Mike V]

No one is skewering anything. OP asked a question and I answered with my reason.

 

[dalek]

I think Mike V's opinion is valid as anyone else's.

Mine, not quite.

You see, I have some issues with the rulings of some competitions, as in the spirit of the competition they want to portray is not reflected in the rules (IDPA poohpooing calibers below 9x19 does come to mind). Maybe I am not a "real enthusiast or sportsman," but I go to events to have fun first, and hopefully improve myself in the process. And maybe meet new people. So, to me I would prefer events that I can compete with what someone would have: a place to put the pistol, ear and eye protection, pistol, and a couple of magazines. No need for the official vest (Like I have seen in IDPA) or other requirements that, as others mentioned here, force you to sink $500 just to get through the door. Any event that welcomes people with that even if they supposedly have some kind of theme is a good event in my book. Only person you should be competing with is yourself; scoring is just a minor consequence. And that is why I liked the zombie shooting event.

Here is another piece of misinformation (I am not here to offer useful advice): When you do start competing, forget about speed. Do it safe first, accurate second. Efficient third. Speed should come as a result of those three. Tying to what I was bitching about before safe and accurate has nothing to do with gear but knowing how to use what you have.

Fun fact: friend of mine who does a lot of IDPA only shoots using a IWB holster. I do not know about other places but he convinced the people running the event he goes to that he is there for the second letter ("D") of the name of the association, so he will only shoots how he carries. It does require more practice but I think he has a valid point.

 

[FlatFender]

I think Mike V's opinion is valid as anyone else's.

Mine, not quite.

You see, I have some issues with the rulings of some competitions, as in the spirit of the competition they want to portray is not reflected in the rules (IDPA poohpooing calibers below 9x19 does come to mind). Maybe I am not a "real enthusiast or sportsman," but I go to events to have fun first, and hopefully improve myself in the process. And maybe meet new people. So, to me I would prefer events that I can compete with what someone would have: a place to put the pistol, ear and eye protection, pistol, and a couple of magazines. No need for the official vest (Like I have seen in IDPA) or other requirements that, as others mentioned here, force you to sink $500 just to get through the door. Any event that welcomes people with that even if they supposedly have some kind of theme is a good event in my book. Only person you should be competing with is yourself; scoring is just a minor consequence. And that is why I liked the zombie shooting event.

Here is another piece of misinformation (I am not here to offer useful advice): When you do start competing, forget about speed. Do it safe first, accurate second. Efficient third. Speed should come as a result of those three. Tying to what I was bitching about before safe and accurate has nothing to do with gear but knowing how to use what you have.

Fun fact: friend of mine who does a lot of IDPA only shoots using a IWB holster. I do not know about other places but he convinced the people running the event he goes to that he is there for the second letter ("D") of the name of the association, so he will only shoots how he carries. It does require more practice but I think he has a valid point.

IDPA allows .380 in BUG division, and if you don't want to shoot a BUG gun, you can shoot whatever caliber you want in NFC division.

There is no official vest in IDPA. The word vest doesn't appear anywhere in the rulebook. It's become a popular cover garment because it's fast for competition, but it's not official, required, or even mentioned in the rulebook.

There's no reason you can't shoot IDPA (or USPSA) with an IWB holster, as long as it's safe, covers the trigger, and you can re-holster without pointing it at yourself, you're just fine. I shoot IDPA from my Crossbreed Supertuck, concealed under a T-shirt all the time. I also frequently shoot USPSA with a guy that uses a IWB holster for his 1911. It's a non-issue.

I think you might have bought into misconception that a lot of gear is required. It's not. You mentioned a pistol, eye/ear protection, and a couple magazines as all the gear that should be required. Add in a holster, and that's really all you need.

 

[fieldgrade]

I think Mike V's opinion is valid as anyone else's.

Mine, not quite.

You see, I have some issues with the rulings of some competitions, as in the spirit of the competition they want to portray is not reflected in the rules (IDPA poohpooing calibers below 9x19 does come to mind). Maybe I am not a "real enthusiast or sportsman," but I go to events to have fun first, and hopefully improve myself in the process. And maybe meet new people. So, to me I would prefer events that I can compete with what someone would have: a place to put the pistol, ear and eye protection, pistol, and a couple of magazines. No need for the official vest (Like I have seen in IDPA) or other requirements that, as others mentioned here, force you to sink $500 just to get through the door. Any event that welcomes people with that even if they supposedly have some kind of theme is a good event in my book. Only person you should be competing with is yourself; scoring is just a minor consequence. And that is why I liked the zombie shooting event.

Here is another piece of misinformation (I am not here to offer useful advice): When you do start competing, forget about speed. Do it safe first, accurate second. Efficient third. Speed should come as a result of those three. Tying to what I was bitching about before safe and accurate has nothing to do with gear but knowing how to use what you have.

Fun fact: friend of mine who does a lot of IDPA only shoots using a IWB holster. I do not know about other places but he convinced the people running the event he goes to that he is there for the second letter ("D") of the name of the association, so he will only shoots how he carries. It does require more practice but I think he has a valid point.

This is a good post. Let me clarify a couple of things.

You can shoot .380 in IDPA BUG matches. It may even be allowed in BUG class at regular matches now with the new 2017 rules. I'd need some help on that. Amp Mangum trcubed

There's no official vest. Because IDPA is based on defensive shooting scenarios, you just have to have your pistol and mags covered so that they are not visible with your arms raised to horizontal (parallel with the ground). There were no vests at yesterday's match, because we had on jackets. In spring and fall you'll see vests of all varieties, unbuttoned shirts as cover over tee shirts, or tee shirts just pulled over the gun and mags . In summer, the cover requirement is usually waved due to heat.

I spent $45 on a used kydex holster and mag carrier after my third match because I didn't want to get my EDC leather holster all stinky from sweat.

In other words, I spent nothing more to shoot IDPA to start off than the same $20 I would have spent on range time to punch holes in paper, plus ammo.

 

[dalek]

FlatFender,

Let me create a thread on this because it is not adding value to this thread

 

[fieldgrade]

IDPA allows .380 in BUG division, and if you don't want to shoot a BUG gun, you can shoot whatever caliber you want in NFC division.

There is no official vest in IDPA. The word vest doesn't appear anywhere in the rulebook. It's become a popular cover garment because it's fast for competition, but it's not official, required, or even mentioned in the rulebook.

There's no reason you can't shoot IDPA (or USPSA) with an IWB holster, as long as it's safe, covers the trigger, and you can re-holster without pointing it at yourself, you're just fine. I shoot IDPA from my Crossbreed Supertuck, concealed under a T-shirt all the time. I also frequently shoot USPSA with a guy that uses a IWB holster for his 1911. It's a non-issue.

I think you might have bought into misconception that a lot of gear is required. It's not. You mentioned a pistol, eye/ear protection, and a couple magazines as all the gear that should be required. Add in a holster, and that's really all you need.

I was typing this same answer and you beat me to it.

I started IDPA with the same $20 for a match fee that I would have spent on an hour of range time, and the same ammo. Nothing else. I bought a used kydex holster and mag carrier for $45 three matches later so I wouldn't stink up my leather holster with sweat that I used for EDC.

I shoot .380 for BUG sometimes, sometimes 9.

 

[NKD]

All of the above, and in addition, and present company excepted, I have concerns about commitment to safety. I have read several threads recently, on several forums, about people getting hurt when it should have been foreseen (in my opinion.)

The idea of shooting over peoples heads, people routinely getting hit by ricochets, having people absentmindedly pointing weapons in other peoples direction, and accidental or negligent discharges just do not appeal to me. And these things are compounded, in my mind, when I frequently read people defending these actions as part of the sport.

I was really getting close to giving it a try but then a couple of weeks ago a shooting occurred in California at a match. In researching about it, I came across numerous occurrences of the above and it has deterred me from being interested.

Honestly, think about what you are saying here. You heard of a few incidents at ranges.

The truth is that your drive to the range is what is going to kill you. It's exponentially more dangerous than the range.

When you hear of a car accident that kills someone do you do a "risk assessment" of it and refuse to drive? No, you do not.

You can research car deaths but it would take you a lifetime because it would not be TWO cases, it would be TWO MILLION.


But by all means, stay off the range and go for a ride instead, lol!

 

[Climberman]

Someone want to help me try a precision match? I am interested in shooting a dmm match.