Yesterday at Stone Mt. Ga.

Well...... I "sorta" disagree. I tend to agree with @Pink_Vapor ...., mostly. Here is why. It is true that Aaron and Miriam spoke "against Moses"... but it is clear from the text that they spoke against him because of who his wife was. The text does not say explicitly, but it does mention explicitly that she was "Cushite" or Ethiopian. Are there white Ethiopians, or were they black Africans? We don't KNOW, but I think it is a reasonable assumption that she was black. We do know that most Cushites were black. Since then, Arabs invaded Ethiopia and many look more Arabic than chocolate black. If so, she was a "furrner" and would have been at least susceptible to ostracism because of this. If so, it certainly would not have been the kind of racial stuff we have, but it may have been prejudiced anway. I think it likely, but I don't put it up there with the kinds of certainty like the death of Jesus or something. IF SO, God certainly had cosmic irony in His response. As you know, he hit both of them with Leprosy, which is a rotting skin disease which turns people a pale white as the skin dies. It is almost like God says "you like white, huh? I'll give you white."

Maybe not, but I am like Hemingway in "The Sun Also Rises"....... "Isn't it pretty to think so?" I agree it is speculative, but not MERE speculative.
 
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Well...... I "sorta" disagree. I tend to agree with @Pink_Vapor ...., mostly. Here is why. It is true that Aaron and Miriam spoke "against Moses"... but it is clear from the text that they spoke against him because of who his wife was. The text does not say explicitly, but it does mention explicitly that she was "Cushite" or Ethiopian. Are there white Ethiopians, or were they black Africans? We don't KNOW, but I think it is a reasonable assumption that she was black. We do know that most Cushites were black. Since then, Arabs invaded Ethiopia and many look more Arabic than chocolate black. If so, she was a "furrner" and would have been at least susceptible to ostracism because of this. If so, it certainly would not have been the kind of racial stuff we have, but it may have been prejudiced anway. I think it likely, but I don't put it up there with the kinds of certainty like the death of Jesus or something. IF SO, God certainly had cosmic irony in His response. As you know, he hit both of them with Leprosy, which is a rotting skin disease which turns people a pale white as the skin dies. It is almost like God says "you like white, huh? I'll give you white."

Maybe not, but I am like Hemingway in "The Sun Also Rises"....... "Isn't it pretty to think so?" I agree it is speculative, but not MERE speculative.

Re-read the scripture. God's punishment had nothing to do with Moses' wife. The punishment is wholly due to their attack upon Moses.

I agree that they used his wife's foreignness as the attack path. And I agree God has a wonderful sense of humor.

Personally I'm beyond tired of this race crap. We are all humans with varied physical differences according to "breed" and even within "breeds". It's ridiculous that we cannot have a discussion about various strengths and weaknesses without cries of racism.

For instance:
Generally speaking, northern Asians have the highest IQ's while Africans have the lowest.

Nothing racist in the data, and it doesn't mean Africans are worth less because of it. Again, all people's and cultures have their strengths and weaknesses.
 
Re-read the scripture. God's punishment had nothing to do with Moses' wife. The punishment is wholly due to their attack upon Moses.

I agree that they used his wife's foreignness as the attack path. And I agree God has a wonderful sense of humor.

Personally I'm beyond tired of this race crap. We are all humans with varied physical differences according to "breed" and even within "breeds". It's ridiculous that we cannot have a discussion about various strengths and weaknesses without cries of racism.

For instance:
Generally speaking, northern Asians have the highest IQ's while Africans have the lowest.

Nothing racist in the data, and it doesn't mean Africans are worth less because of it. Again, all people's and cultures have their strengths and weaknesses.
Agree with much of this. There is only one "race......" the human race. I certainly understand the frustration, and share it. I do try to look at it with other people's eyes sometimes, when I can. I don't always succeed, for sure.
 
A lot of assumptions here unsupported by the the plain verbage of the text.

Based solely on the scripture, God punished Aaron and Miriam because they spoke against His servant (Moses).

Also, we can never assume the skin color of any of the ancients:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1v9pqs4w1mwrGlCET76Rs99Fx0EfJXE4
Considering Jeremiah, it's a safe guess.
"A Cushite is from Cush, a region south of Ethiopia, where the people are known for their black skin. We know this because of Jeremiah 13:23: “Can the Ethiopian [the same Hebrew word translated “Cushite” in Numbers 12:1] change his skin or the leopard his spots? Then also you can do good who are accustomed to do evil.” Attention is drawn to the difference of the skin of the Cushite people." https://www.9marks.org/article/did-moses-marry-black-woman/
 
Considering Jeremiah, it's a safe guess.
"A Cushite is from Cush, a region south of Ethiopia, where the people are known for their black skin. We know this because of Jeremiah 13:23: “Can the Ethiopian [the same Hebrew word translated “Cushite” in Numbers 12:1] change his skin or the leopard his spots? Then also you can do good who are accustomed to do evil.” Attention is drawn to the difference of the skin of the Cushite people." https://www.9marks.org/article/did-moses-marry-black-woman/

Yes, safe guess for his wife, at least.
 
Re-read the scripture. God's punishment had nothing to do with Moses' wife. The punishment is wholly due to their attack upon Moses.

I agree that they used his wife's foreignness as the attack path. And I agree God has a wonderful sense of humor.

Personally I'm beyond tired of this race crap. We are all humans with varied physical differences according to "breed" and even within "breeds". It's ridiculous that we cannot have a discussion about various strengths and weaknesses without cries of racism.

For instance:
Generally speaking, northern Asians have the highest IQ's while Africans have the lowest.

Nothing racist in the data, and it doesn't mean Africans are worth less because of it. Again, all people's and cultures have their strengths and weaknesses.
Years ago I heard someone say, “I’m not a racist, I’m a culturalist. Some cultures are superior to others.”
I like that. Melatonin doesn’t make someone a cretin. Look at the insane Caucus/videos of blonde regarded thugs.
 
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Years ago I heard someone say, “I’m not a racist, I’m a culturalist. Some cultures are superior to others.”
I like that. Melatonin doesn’t make someone a cretin. Look at the insane Caucus/videos of blonde regarded thugs.

Nigerians who come here on average make 125% more income than white native born Americans. That was a stat from Thomas Sowell, and I have not verified it.
 
Personally I'm beyond tired of this race crap. We are all humans with varied physical differences according to "breed" and even within "breeds". It's ridiculous that we cannot have a discussion about various strengths and weaknesses without cries of racism.

For instance:
Generally speaking, northern Asians have the highest IQ's while Africans have the lowest.

Nothing racist in the data, and it doesn't mean Africans are worth less because of it. Again, all people's and cultures have their strengths and weaknesses.

Even that has anything to do with anything genetic/regional/etc.
Raise a black kid the way asians are raised (2 parent household, strong emphasis on school work outside of school, emphasis on getting a good job and making your parents proud), you'll have a black kid who succeeds. There are plenty of them. Unfortunately they tend to get labeled as sellouts...
Raise an asian kid in a single-mom home because generations of social programs encourage single-moms and modern jim-crow (clinton crime bill) laws have locked up black men for crimes that should have been a slap on the wrist have destroyed the family structure... you'll get what a lot of black kids are growing up with now.

This is possibly the most dangerous thing about BLM, who openly states that they are fighting against the "western" family structure that has proven to be very beneficial all around the world.
 
Even that has anything to do with anything genetic/regional/etc.
Raise a black kid the way asians are raised (2 parent household, strong emphasis on school work outside of school, emphasis on getting a good job and making your parents proud), you'll have a black kid who succeeds. There are plenty of them. Unfortunately they tend to get labeled as sellouts...
Raise an asian kid in a single-mom home because generations of social programs encourage single-moms and modern jim-crow (clinton crime bill) laws have locked up black men for crimes that should have been a slap on the wrist have destroyed the family structure... you'll get what a lot of black kids are growing up with now.

This is possibly the most dangerous thing about BLM, who openly states that they are fighting against the "western" family structure that has proven to be very beneficial all around the world.

The family being destroyed is not just a black issue, they were just the first to experience the directed attack. Make no mistake, it is being done on purpose, but it now has all western nation's under it's thumb.

Marxism is it's current name but it's desire has not changed since it seduced Adam and Eve.
 
I learned today that Stone Mtn is privately owned so the marching thugs cant make the state do a damn thing.

pretty sure the state owns stone mountain.

wikipedia: The park is owned by the state of Georgia and managed by Norcross-based Herschend Family Entertainment. At its summit, the elevation is 1,686 feet (514 m) above sea level and 825 feet (251 m) above the surrounding area.
 
I was reading this the other day, cause I was curious what exactly we're the "10 planks of communism"...
Seemed fitting for this thread.

Although Marx advocated the use of any means, especially including violent revolution, to bring about socialist dictatorship, he suggested ten political goals for developed countries such as the United States. How far has the United States -- traditionally the bastion of freedom, free markets, and private property -- gone down the Marxist road to fulfill these socialist aims? You be the judge. The following are Marx's ten planks from his Communist Manifesto.

1. Abolition of private property in land and application of all rents of land to public purpose.

The courts have interpreted the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868) to give the government far more "eminent domain" power than was originally intended, Under the rubric of "eminent domain" and various zoning regulations, land use regulations by the Bureau of Land Managementproperty taxes, and "environmental" excuses, private property rights have become very diluted and private property in landis, vehicles, and other forms are seized almost every day in this country under the "forfeiture" provisions of the RICO statutes and the so-called War on Drugs..




2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

The 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913 (which some scholars maintain was never properly ratified), and various State income taxes, established this major Marxist coup in the United States many decades ago. These taxes continue to drain the lifeblood out of the American economy and greatly reduce the accumulation of desperately needed capital for future growth, business starts, job creation, and salary increases.




3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

Another Marxian attack on private property rights is in the form of Federal & State estate taxes and other inheritance taxes, which have abolished or at least greatly diluted the right of private property owners to determine the disposition and distribution of their estates upon their death. Instead, government bureaucrats get their greedy hands involved .




4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

We call it government seizures, tax liens, "forfeiture" Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.




5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

The Federal Reserve System, created by the Federal Reserve Act of Congress in 1913, is indeed such a "national bank" and it politically manipulates interest rates and holds a monopoly on legal counterfeiting in the United States. This is exactly what Marx had in mind and completely fulfills this plank, another major socialist objective. Yet, most Americans naively believe the U.S. of A. is far from a Marxist or socialist nation.




6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the state.

In the U.S., communication and transportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) established by the Communications Act of 1934 and the Department of Transportation and the Interstate Commerce Commission (established by Congress in 1887), and the Federal Aviation Administration as well as Executive orders 11490, 10999 -- not to mention various state bureaucracies and regulations. There is also the federal postal monopoly, AMTRAK and CONRAIL -- outright socialist (government-owned) enterprises. Instead of free-market private enteprrise in these important industries, these fields in America are semi-cartelized through the government's regulatory-industiral complex.




7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

While the U.S. does not have vast "collective farms" (which failed so miserably in the Soviet Union), we nevertheless do have a significant degree of government involvement in agriculture in the form of price support subsidies and acreage alotments and land-use controls. The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.




8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.




9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization Act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.




10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" .
 
All the young people (under 35) that I work with advocate Democratic Socialism, as though it were a real thing, and not just a new name that the Communist Party started using a few decades ago. They imagine that Democratic Socialism is a good thing, just as they imagine that Capitalism is a bad thing.

Stone Mountain shows that most of the young people are what Lenin and Stalin called Useful Idiots.
 
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