Yet another MeckCo CHP renewal

You probably saw this info when you were on their site…

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Looks like almost 6 months for renewals. I get to file mine in ~3 weeks.
 
Hold up a minute…

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That’s very unclear. Doesn’t the regulation say you can carry (but not purchase) with an expired CHP as long as you submitted prior to the expiration date?

I’m assuming that’s a scare tactic, and only applies to those that resubmit after expiration but within 59 days…and if you miss it by 60+ you have to start over with a new permit.
 
Yep…regulation clearly states:

§ 14-415.16. Renewal of permit.

(a) At least 45 days prior to the expiration date of a permit, the sheriff of the county where the permit was issued shall send a written notice to the permittee explaining that the permit is about to expire and including information about the requirements for renewal of the permit. The notice shall be sent by first class mail to the last known address of the permittee. Failure to receive a renewal notice shall not relieve a permittee of requirements imposed in this section for renewal of the permit.

(b) The holder of a permit shall apply to renew the permit within the 90-day period prior to its expiration date by filing with the sheriff of the county in which the person resides a renewal form provided by the sheriff's office, an affidavit stating that the permittee remains qualified under the criteria provided in this Article, a newly administered full set of the permittee's fingerprints, and a renewal fee.

(c) Upon receipt of the completed renewal application and the appropriate payment of fees, the sheriff shall determine if the permittee remains qualified to hold a permit in accordance with the provisions of G.S. 14-415.12. The permittee's criminal history shall be updated, including with another inquiry of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), and the sheriff may waive the requirement of taking another firearms safety and training course. If the permittee applies for a renewal of the permit within the 90-day period prior to its expiration date and if the permittee remains qualified to have a permit under G.S. 14-415.12, the sheriff shall renew the permit. The permit of a permittee who complies with this section shall remain valid beyond the expiration date of the permit until the permittee either receives a renewal permit or is denied a renewal permit by the sheriff.

(d) No fingerprints shall be required for a renewal permit if the applicant's fingerprints were submitted to the State Bureau of Investigation after June 30, 2001, on the Automated Fingerprint Information System (AFIS) as prescribed by the State Bureau of Investigation.

(e) If the permittee does not apply to renew the permit prior to its expiration date, but does apply to renew the permit within 60 days after the permit expires, the sheriff may waive the requirement of taking another firearms safety and training course. This subsection does not extend the expiration date of the permit. (1995, c. 398, s. 1; c. 507, s. 22.2(b); 2000-140, s. 103; 2000-191, s. 1; 2009-307, s. 1; 2011-268, s. 18.)

Even the dumb Sheriffs Association document says the same…

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BigWaylon said:
Hold up a minute…

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That’s very unclear. Doesn’t the regulation say you can carry (but not purchase) with an expired CHP as long as you submitted prior to the expiration date?

I’m assuming that’s a scare tactic, and only applies to those that resubmit after expiration but within 59 days…and if you miss it by 60+ you have to start over with a new permit.
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Arent Meck renewals done over the internet with no appointment needed?
 
NCFubar said:
Arent Meck renewals done over the internet with no appointment needed?
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Right. They haven’t changed the appointment wording on that screen…but I would assume if you submitted the paperwork anywhere from +1 to +59 after expiration date, that’s what they’re referring to.

It’s unclear regardless of whether an appointment is needed or not.
 
BigWaylon said:
Right. They haven’t changed the appointment wording on that screen…but I would assume if you submitted the paperwork anywhere from +1 to +59 after expiration date, that’s what they’re referring to.

It’s unclear regardless of whether an appointment is needed or not.
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That department has been a fuster cluck for at least the past 2 sheriffs … or longer … and with whoever is acting as web head posting things like the above it don’t appear to be getting any better any time soon.
 
I submitted my renewal on 11/20/21 and I haven't heard anything yet!
 
NCFubar said:
Arent Meck renewals done over the internet with no appointment needed?
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I'd like a clear answer to this question. I thought it was all online for a renewal. No notary. No visit to sheriff. They mail them out once approved too.
Is that not true?
 
Timfoilhat said:
I'd like a clear answer to this question. I thought it was all online for a renewal. No notary. No visit to sheriff. They mail them out once approved too.
Is that not true?
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I did mine online. But I still haven't gotten my new one!
 
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Timfoilhat said:
I'd like a clear answer to this question. I thought it was all online for a renewal. No notary. No visit to sheriff. They mail them out once approved too.
Is that not true?
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You fill out some info online. Then you print the whole packet. Then you have to get multiple pages of that packet notarized. Then you have to submit that packet and a copy of your ID. You can scan and upload/email, or you can fax it in.

No appointment, no visit…but yes to a notary.
 
Thanks for that. I like knowing what the process is.

So do the people at the bank look at you all 😱 when you ask them to notarized this paperwork?
 
Timfoilhat said:
So do the people at the bank look at you all 😱 when you ask them to notarized this paperwork?
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I’ll let you know in a couple weeks. 😁

I use a credit union, but I don’t think I’ve used them for a CHP application/renewal for either of us. I plan to this year because of the new process. I did use them when I set up my first trust for NFA items. I’d known that lady for ~20 years, and she never batted an eye.
 
@rdinatal or anybody else that knows…do the signatures require witnesses as well? Or just the notary?

I used another teller at the CU when I needed a notary last time, but no idea if there’s even more than one person there these days.
 
rdinatal said:
Last time I had some item notarized the Notary was the witness. No other needed.
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But you’ve printed this package, right? Are there spots for witness names and/or signatures?
 
When I setup my NFA Trust I had the church secretary do the Notary stuff. She didn’t read anything except the pages I was signing. After she asked what it was for and I told her. She told me to expect a call from her husband because he wanted to get a suppressor also … never know what side of the 2A a person is just because of their appearance, job, etc.
 
That makes me think that gunshops should offer notary services 🤔
 
Had all the paperwork notarized. Just uploaded it, now the wait.

FYI:
The packet is 5.3MB in size, the upload limit is 5MB. Be prepared to split into two uploads.
 
Look at how confusing all of the above is. NC really needs to take a page from the SC book with one state agency (SLED) taking care of everything. No confusion of which county wants what. This county takes a week and that county takes a year. It's damned ridiculous.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
Look at how confusing all of the above is. NC really needs to take a page from the SC book with one state agency (SLED) taking care of everything. No confusion of which county wants what. This county takes a week and that county takes a year. It's damned ridiculous.
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On one hand I agree, one the other consider what happens when the head of that agency is anti-gun and appointed by someone like Cooper.
 
Frack N Cylons said:
Look at how confusing all of the above is. NC really needs to take a page from the SC book with one state agency (SLED) taking care of everything. No confusion of which county wants what. This county takes a week and that county takes a year. It's damned ridiculous.
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First, that makes way tooooo much sense and we know the gooberment does not make sense. The state has a part in the up issuing of CHP’s already. Hell, they even print them after reviewing the CHP packets the sheriffs send them and send the CHP’s back to the sheriffs for them to dole out to the holders. At least twice as many hands touch the application packet and each time different ones touch it the cost rises.

Second, many of the larger liberal metro county sheriffs would not want to give up their “control” over “their county’s safety”. The egos of many of them stomp on the residents of the county’s freedoms more and more.
 
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rdinatal said:
Had all the paperwork notarized. Just uploaded it, now the wait.

FYI:
The packet is 5.3MB in size, the upload limit is 5MB. Be prepared to split into two uploads.
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You ought to be able to get that a lot smaller. You scan it at home?

For example, my first trust is 30 pages and is only 1.7MB. Scanning in B&W vs color makes a huge difference. On my multi-function Brother, a color scan of a B&W document is 3-4 times bigger than a B&W scan of the same document.

I did a lot of testing a couple years ago on this because the ATF limits you to a 3MB file in EForms.
 
As I said before, I sent my packet in on 11/20/21. After checking the website yesterday, MCSO is just now processing renewals that they received the week of 10/14/21!
 
Did the online portion yesterday morning, including uploading my DL. Printed the packet, got it notarized yesterday afternoon at work, then scanned and uploaded last night.

7 pages to notarize. The permit itself, plus 6 different medical releases. Ridiculous.
 
Man that is crazy some of the hoops you guys have to jump through. I am 5 months out but I was able to fill out the online packet and I paid online. Printed it and took it to the Sheriffs office. They made copies of my DL and my current permit. I then signed all the Docs in front of them and they notarized it and off I went. #smalltownfriendly
 
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