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If course, the player matters. But I have found Taylor quitars to sound brighter and thinner. They both sound great, just different.
Would anyone be interested in a guitar/musical instrument sub section?
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Headed out shortly to see if I can work a trade on a Taylor 410ce for a Breedlove Concertina... if it’s still hanging in the shop where I saw it last.
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Good luck ! It's always fun to find one "on the wall" to fall in love with.
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Yeah, the common wisdom is Taylor = brighter, thinner, much better neck for some, people "love it or hate it". I guess so. The "revoicing" in the early 2000s was supposed to change some of the tone differences. So they say.
Martin = Louder and deeper. I find this to be an inconsistent / maybe at best.
Breedlove = Taylor's "better neck ergonomics" with Martin's richer tone.
That's what they say.
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My currently-owned favorite acoustic is a Yamaha from the mid 1970s I bought used over a decade ago off a pawn shop wall. It's a keeper. 
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Breedlove Oregon Concertina CE with red cedar top, and myrtle wood back and sides. Limited run 12 fret, short scale like I had been looking for several years for finger style. I took a friend from the forum to buy a Taylor at Harry’s a couple of weeks ago and played this one at their behest. The hook was set.
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That wood is stunning. Way to got and congrats on your NGD! I’d love to hear a clip of that puppy! Enjoy enjoy enjoy!
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It is one step up from the size of a parlor guitar but the sound is huge. I had a Taylor 816 I gave my son for graduation, and I can’t tell you if that beautiful thing sounded any better than this wee little axe.
This is the Taylor. I think I might have posted it before upthread. I had given my son a twenty year old 400 series Taylor I didn’t play much to take with him up to school, so I decided to replace it with another 400 series, and somehow came home with an 800 series.
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I’ll really have to get a “full frontal” on this fella. It’s a 2008 000-28. It earned its relic the hard way in a house fire. Pictures can’t catch all of its character marks, scratches, dents, slight rust, smoke blackened-spider-webbed clear top coat. It’s definitely MINE. While this pup was drying and re-seasoning from its long bath from the fire hoses, it Came out with ZERO action issues remarkably. I let it sit untouched for about eight years slightly out of a feeling of loss. Re-furbed and cleaned it up. The sound is as full, rich, and punchy as the day it left Pennsylvania.
In the mean time, I supplemented my acoustic play with a new 000-28. This one is the second ever lefty 000 in the Cherry burst finish.
Once my original was all put back together, I traded out the Cherry burst. I didn’t have history with it. While a tremendous sound, it didn’t have the life of my natural finished love.
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So....
Out running errands today and stopped by the local guitar shop. I have been in there a couple of times in the last few weeks trying the few basses they have but the only P basses were MIM and I really wanted to spend for an American made for the big year (50th birthday and 20th wedding anniversary) and already had the wife's approval for a big purchase. They had a 50th anniversary P with HB but it had a weird rattle in it somewhere, an American Professional Jazz (did I mention I was looking for a P?), and an American Ultra Jazz. Just for fun I decided to fondle the Ultra. Nice neck, plays well unplugged, but I know from my vast experience of only ever playing a P bass and only ever hearing a Jazz on youtube sound 70's "honky" that there was no point in plugging it in. Since it was raining anyway and I didn't really have anywhere else to be I plugged it in. WOW! Active/Passive both sound massive. Love the tone, did I mention that I knew I would never like a Jazz bass sound? It was a little over the original planned budget but the wife gave the nod of approval and I brought it home.
Here's what I will be playing for tomorrow's church service:
Out running errands today and stopped by the local guitar shop. I have been in there a couple of times in the last few weeks trying the few basses they have but the only P basses were MIM and I really wanted to spend for an American made for the big year (50th birthday and 20th wedding anniversary) and already had the wife's approval for a big purchase. They had a 50th anniversary P with HB but it had a weird rattle in it somewhere, an American Professional Jazz (did I mention I was looking for a P?), and an American Ultra Jazz. Just for fun I decided to fondle the Ultra. Nice neck, plays well unplugged, but I know from my vast experience of only ever playing a P bass and only ever hearing a Jazz on youtube sound 70's "honky" that there was no point in plugging it in. Since it was raining anyway and I didn't really have anywhere else to be I plugged it in. WOW! Active/Passive both sound massive. Love the tone, did I mention that I knew I would never like a Jazz bass sound? It was a little over the original planned budget but the wife gave the nod of approval and I brought it home.
Here's what I will be playing for tomorrow's church service:
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Howdy all!
Turned thirty last Friday and bought a new amp, ha! I picked up a blonde Blackstar Artist 15.
I have a short clip of illiterate shwanging but you get the idea of the sound I’m after -
I wouldn’t call myself familiar with the amp as it’s brand new but I have :
Guitar >TS9-DX >trem >delay >amp
Not turned on are a Wah and Fuzz.
Where’s the next direction? Compressor? Chorus?
Love to hear everyone’s thoughts!!
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Turned thirty last Friday and bought a new amp, ha! I picked up a blonde Blackstar Artist 15.
I have a short clip of illiterate shwanging but you get the idea of the sound I’m after -
I wouldn’t call myself familiar with the amp as it’s brand new but I have :
Guitar >TS9-DX >trem >delay >amp
Not turned on are a Wah and Fuzz.
Where’s the next direction? Compressor? Chorus?
Love to hear everyone’s thoughts!!
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Man, pedals are their own rabbit hole!
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This. Don't go in unless you have the buy/sell/trade gene.
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two fingers
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Yeah we can't exactly discuss anything we talk about here over there, can we? 😁Somebody say strangs?
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I saw someone selling one of these old cheesy Ibanez basses the other day and I remembered I had put one up as a "project" awhile back... forgot about it! So got it out and finished it... lots of fun.
Seagull S6+ on the right. Awesome guitars / brand for the money (so is Godin).
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I found out they sure can't take a joke about Colin Kaepernick and Al Bundy being in the same profession.
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Someone else posted an Alice Cooper meme that was a spoof on Roy Cooper. I simply commented that it would be.more fun if Alice were our governor. I got banned for thirty days and permanently banned from the funny pics thread. I was banned from the COVID thread almost instantly.... like last March.I found out they sure can't take a joke about Colin Kaepernick and Al Bundy being in the same profession.
Honestly though, I can appreciate their wanting to keep politics and religion out of that forum. A bunch of musical artsy types will be thenthitive. Perhaps we need a bullets and basses thread here....
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Funny, they moderate the politics section on a huge Harley forum like nazis, and being international in nature there is a fairly large contingent of “divergent viewpoints” there. I asked them to disallow my privileges in that section of the forum because it was half the new posts every time I refreshed the page.
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Geez Louise... yeah I've always kind of danced around my propensity for hunting over there, although one time I posted a photo of a bass with a skull from a pig I had taken, and no one seemed to care. I tend to think it's more that music cuts across all political and religious frameworks at some point, hell Martin Shkreli listens to Wu-Tang, and so you're bound to get some butt-hurt/amped up folks on a music site. It's also huge and global, if it were a Carolina-specific bass forum I bet there'd be some stray brass laying aroundSomeone else posted an Alice Cooper meme that was a spoof on Roy Cooper. I simply commented that it would be.more fun if Alice were our governor. I got banned for thirty days and permanently banned from the funny pics thread. I was banned from the COVID thread almost instantly.... like last March.
Honestly though, I can appreciate their wanting to keep politics and religion out of that forum. A bunch of musical artsy types will be thenthitive. Perhaps we need a bullets and basses thread here....
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Someone else posted an Alice Cooper meme that was a spoof on Roy Cooper. I simply commented that it would be.more fun if Alice were our governor. I got banned for thirty days and permanently banned from the funny pics thread. I was banned from the COVID thread almost instantly.... like last March.
Honestly though, I can appreciate their wanting to keep politics and religion out of that forum. A bunch of musical artsy types will be thenthitive. Perhaps we need a bullets and basses thread here....
I got the full "Permban". For the second time, actually, so I should have known better. Afterward I looked up the Twitter account of the mod that axed me and found out he has a real boner about Kaepernick. Oh well. A decade ago they weren't quite as uptight. It's really a shame though, musicians used to have to have a thick skin and a good sense of humor, at minimum for ego-survival, and then as a component part of the stage-presence that comes in handy if you want to be a good entertainer.
Twenty years ago there was a sub-forum of ProSoundWeb called "MARS" (Musicians, Artists, Recording engineers, and Songwriters). It had a section called "The Bbasement" that was a real hoot. Anything was in-bounds except extreme racism, gay-bashing and XXX porn. Cutting humor, clever wit, and excellent debating skills ruled the roost, Libs had Conservatives outnumbered about ten to one, and nobody cried for you if your feelings got hurt. It ended up getting shut down when PSW went to a "Real Names" policy and cleaned up their whole board. I understand internet boards changing with the times, but I sure miss worthy mental ninjas being allowed to "have at it" on an adult higher-level musician's board. I feel supressed. 😇
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Geez Louise... yeah I've always kind of danced around my propensity for hunting over there, although one time I posted a photo of a bass with a skull from a pig I had taken, and no one seemed to care. I tend to think it's more that music cuts across all political and religious frameworks at some point, hell Martin Shkreli listens to Wu-Tang, and so you're bound to get some butt-hurt/amped up folks on a music site. It's also huge and global, if it were a Carolina-specific bass forum I bet there'd be some stray brass laying around
Maybe a bass and Bullets GTG will have to be arranged at some point. I keep a full PA and drums set up in my bonus room where my band practices. We can't shoot in my yard, but maybe I can find somewhere close by. Jam a while. Shoot a while. Eat and drink a while. Seems like a good way to kill a Saturday.
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Oh man I thought you were joking, guess I didn't realize it was quite that sensitive. I mostly hang out on the big fiddle side, so it's basically like the same 20 people and that's it, the guitar side's always seemed a lil crazy to me 😄
I'm on the other side of the state but similar situation here, well no PA but I got a cheap drum kit, and national forest is spitting distance. They just like you to be 100 yards from a road to shoot out there. I'm thinking take a couple cheap bass bodies and see which calibers penetrate... hopefully that never matters, but I've always wondered...
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I've got an old Epiphone Accubass body that's pretty trashed. I think I have a couple of warped necks too.
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Back in the 80s a Southern Rock band I was in played some pretty rough places (saw one homicide and one near-homicide). I wondered at times if my 1978 Precision was dense enough to stop a bullet. I was pretty sure it would make a great bludgeon. 😁 On a kinda-similar note, I had a friend who was running a Yamaha PM4000 soundboard that stopped a 9mm round at a job he was working. The really bad part was that the PM4000 was the most expensive console Yamaha made at the time (about $60,000 IIRC), it was almost brand new, and it stayed in an evidence lock-up for almost two years.
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You guys got me thinking... about the creeping authoritarian-shift on Internet Forums for Musicians in the Politically Correct / SJW / Cancel-Culture era:
How sad it is to realize how stunting it must be for an aspiring "creative artist" to be of the mindset to desire to stay insulated in a safe-space for groupthink.
Maybe that's one of the reasons why popular "music" is so boilerplate and shallow these days.
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The last part is true for sure. As far as I'm concerned, it has even made its way into country music. You can't step out of kine in Nashville anymore either.
As for forums, they're private businesses. So, while I don't like it, I respect their right to run it how they see fit. The right to free speech only protects us from the government.
That bass forum has always had a policy against politics and religion. They've just gotten tougher and tougher on people who support one side of those issues over the years. The COVID thread is choc full of liberalism, for example. But I got banned from it. I was simply offering up that masks should be a choice. Private businesses should decide. And individuals could vote with their wallets. I got slammed by the participants and banned from the thread by the staff. Several people there blocked me. I guess that's politics in their eyes.
I actually think there is some validity to masks in some situations. I've expressed that here and got slammed for it. But we all stayed friends and nobody banned me.
Either way, thanks to you guy I now have a deep desire to shoot a bass.
What does THAT say about me? Ha!
I'm pretty sure I know what forum y'all are talking about. Does it start with a T and end with a alkbass? I haven't been on that thing in years. Is it a pay to play now?
I've always thought those Iceman basses looked cool. It may balance like crap, though.
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You only have to pay if you want to post a classified ad. Notice I said post ad, cough armslist cough... Anyway
It's a tricky time to be political, two sides are dug in so hard and we forget how to listen. I'm trapped in between as a mostly non-political, or maybe I should say post-political, person.... I'm "othered" on both sides in Buncombe. If I drive in to Asheville in my old w150 and forget to take off my camo hat, the yoga pants crowd will hardly make eye contact with me, must be some dirty redneck. But then I pull up to a gun shop outside Buncombe and nobody will speak to me if I drove my Subaru, I got long hair, must be some kind of snowflake. I've had a CC permit since 2011 but I still get surprised looks like "oh this isn't your first gun?" 😄 FWIW I'm a fan of putting "conservation" of resources other than money back into "conservative" but no one seems to get that, there can only be binary in some minds. /rant don't ban me plz 😁
On the guitars, my lady has two Taylors, and I wasn't a fan of them til living with them. They project a huge full sound, are an absolute joy to play, and I dig the bolt-on neck design. If I were buying one today I'd probably go Martin or Gibson, just cuz I'm a sucker for the understated aesthetics, Taylors are too pretty. I spend most of my music time playing bass, fiddle, and mandolin though. The only guitar here that is technically mine is a Gretsch Boxcar resonator, which is about as loud as a sawed off 30-06, no amplification necessary 😁
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Oh yeah, bigtime. They are sorta "rare" but this one is rare because it doesn't have relocated strap buttons. People usually add one to the horn and the bottom left front of the body (opposite the knobs). Nose-dive city otherwise.
People also complain about the weak passive pickups but I like them just fine.
Aardvark
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The last part is true for sure. As far as I'm concerned, it has even made its way into country music. You can't step out of kine in Nashville anymore either.
As for forums, they're private businesses. So, while I don't like it, I respect their right to run it how they see fit. The right to free speech only protects us from the government.
That bass forum has always had a policy against politics and religion. They've just gotten tougher and tougher on people who support one side of those issues over the years. The COVID thread is choc full of liberalism, for example. But I got banned from it. I was simply offering up that masks should be a choice. Private businesses should decide. And individuals could vote with their wallets. I got slammed by the participants and banned from the thread by the staff. Several people there blocked me. I guess that's politics in their eyes.
I actually think there is some validity to masks in some situations. I've expressed that here and got slammed for it. But we all stayed friends and nobody banned me.
Either way, thanks to you guy I now have a deep desire to shoot a bass.
I guess my point was more that it's sad musicians, who used to be known for freethinking, even rebelliousness, would gather by choice and then enthusiastically participate in policies of intellectual isolation.
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Agreed. 100%. I totally understand your point.
I'm just saying that I also understand their right as a private business to "get weird" if they wanna.
But, again, you're correct. It's sad that we can't at least have tue conversations that would spark intelligent debates over there. It's become very one-sided.
Here's about a 10 minute video on PRS "Private Stock" guitar creation. I don't work for or have any relation to PRS, just find their approach to guitar design and construction fascinating.
And, no, I do not own one.
And, no, I do not own one.
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Even their SE models are super nice. I'm afraid to play one of the really expensive ones.
Yes indeed. I had an MiK SE Custom 24 for a while. Really nice. Unfortunately, I have next to no sense of rhythm and a marginally discriminating ear so I sold it so that someone with a hope of actually playing it could do so!
I still "follow" the PRS forum a bit simply because I appreciate the artistry that they put in to their instruments.
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Meanwhile back at the ranch, craigslist and reverb.com have inspired a few fun road-trips for Mrs Aardvark and me. There was an old MusicMan amp we were interested in listed in Clarksville TN, and since the last train was no longer running, we packed for an overnight drive that turned into a four day loop through Southern KY, Northeast and central TN including a night in Nashville. We stayed off the superslab and saw a lot of the boonies. The amp was a bust, but I was able to scratch an old itch for one of these:
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I highly recommend stopping by both Carter Vintage and the Musicians Hall of Fame next time you'rei n Nashville. I could spend three days in the Musicians HOF. So much cool stuff in there.
Gigs are starting to pick back up a little for my dad band. Played a pub in Greenville last week, doing a concert in the park in Winterville tomorrow, and playing another little pub in Washington next weekend. It feels good to get loud again. We just do it for fun. I'm sure I spend more on music gear than I make in this band.
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AAAAUCH, laddy - we're TARHEELS!!!
We need a BAGPIPE section!!!