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falconew said:
You got the 5 inch or 4.25. Reddot ?
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This was the Tisas model I handled with clunky lock up.
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The Springer I was so happy with was a Range Officer. Made a lot of mods to it, and it still ran, and ran, and ran. Pics after I gussied it up to sell. It was run hard in a lot of matches, and put up wet.
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Several folks in several recent threads have recommended Colts.

I’ve owned recent production Colts, but not in several years. I hope they have improved. The ones I bought were not acceptable at any price point.
 
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rufrdr said:
Happy with mine
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Dozens and dozens of deals here. No membership.

Support the community.

This forum is private. No outside support.
 
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fieldgrade said:
Dozens and dozens of deals here. No membership.

Support the community.

This forum is private. No outside support.
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I rescind that remark. Not for me to suggest policy here.
 
Given today.
Tisas, RIA, SA..and maybe a BUL Armory.
1911's today are like AR'S everybody makes and sells em, they have their own "take / vision" what one should be like.

Kimber I avoid *current production*
Colt quality control is not what it was
High end *current production* why? Key word production...

Own several 1911's, built several
Of mine the old Clark Customs, Colt NM, 70 Series Gold Cups, 70 series Commanders, older Kimber. The others range from AMT, Vega, Crown City Arms, Para Warthog, etc

Just an opinion ..

-Snoooz
 
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My father had what I remember to be a “series 70 government” model that he unfortunately sold. I assume he bought it when he was in the military ??I wish I had known he was looking to sell it.

I’d like to find a 1911 that had a similar look.

I might even buy one for another family too because I know they enjoy “military” inspired genes.

Who makes a good “military inspired” 1911 that functions as it should and doesn’t break the bank (assuming I may buy two)
 
The Tisas look interesting and have a nice price.
I also like Springfield products but the price climbs. I know they have their Mil Spec and the Garrison looks interesting.
 
I volunteer to not pay Rufrdr's membership for him, because I've met him and he's a nice guy. Membership is voluntary, not like paying federal income tax which the IRS calls voluntary, CFF membership is truly voluntary and you can use CFF without paying at all, if you like.
 
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I volunteer to not pay Rufrdr's membership for him, because I've met him and he's a nice guy. Membership is voluntary, not like paying federal income tax which the IRS calls voluntary, CFF membership is truly voluntary and you can use CFF without paying at all, if you like.
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I am not sure how the discussion of Rufrdr's membership or lack of membership got mixed in with my question about 1911s but I tend to agree with your assessment.
 
nchunter78 said:
I am not sure how the discussion of Rufrdr's membership or lack of membership got mixed in with my question about 1911s but I tend to agree with your assessment.
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Because I have a terrible cold, drank half a bottle of Jameson’s last night (medicinal puposes), and wore my asshat here last night, largely because I’m so disappointed with Colt quality.

As ya’ll were.
 
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nchunter78 said:
My father had what I remember to be a “series 70 government” model that he unfortunately sold. I assume he bought it when he was in the military ??I wish I had known he was looking to sell it.

I’d like to find a 1911 that had a similar look.

I might even buy one for another family too because I know they enjoy “military” inspired genes.

Who makes a good “military inspired” 1911 that functions as it should and doesn’t break the bank (assuming I may buy two)
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nchunter78 said:
The Tisas look interesting and have a nice price.
I also like Springfield products but the price climbs. I know they have their Mil Spec and the Garrison looks interesting.
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If you are really budget driven go for the Tisa 1911A1 US Army to fill the “similar” idea (its pretty damn close to a WWII issue). Then down the road … you are not limited to 1 of them … you can fill other slots with different configurations from other manufacturers if the 1911 bug bites like it has many of us. A SA Loaded would make a nice “modernized” 2nd one … then move up to a Dan Wesson, Les Baer or more Gucci one (Nighthawk comes to mind 😈).
 
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I'm not sure the Colt problems mentioned above occurred with 45 acp guns, or just the 9mm versions. Can someone refresh my memory? I had a certain Colt Competition in 9mm, and it was very picky on ammo. Picky to the point of locking up so tight we had to take extreme measures to get it unlocked.

Folks on a forum dedicated to 1911s warned me away from Ruger SR1911 Koenig Custom Shop guns, mainly based on price. "No Ruger is worth that price." I persisted till I found one in 9mm at a reasonable price, and it I have to say I believe it lives up to the Doug Koenig name. It has as good trigger as any pistol I have ever shot, and runs like a top.

But enough about me. The OP should be able to find a 70 Series gun in an earlier model, and some of the new Colt's are also 70 Series. The Springfield Mil-Spec and Garrison models look like the older Colts to me, but you can decide.

How much more Colt-70-Series looking can you get than this?

www.colt.com

1911 Classic - Colt's Manufacturing LLC

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dmarbell said:
I'm not sure the Colt problems mentioned above occurred with 45 acp guns, or just the 9mm versions. Can someone refresh my memory? I had a certain Colt Competition in 9mm, and it was very picky on ammo. Picky to the point of locking up so tight we had to take extreme measures to get it unlocked.

Folks on a forum dedicated to 1911s warned me away from Ruger SR1911 Koenig Custom Shop guns, mainly based on price. "No Ruger is worth that price." I persisted till I found one in 9mm at a reasonable price, and it I have to say I believe it lives up to the Doug Koenig name. It has as good trigger as any pistol I have ever shot, and runs like a top.

But enough about me. The OP should be able to find a 70 Series gun in an earlier model, and some of the new Colt's are also 70 Series. The Springfield Mil-Spec and Garrison models look like the older Colts to me, but you can decide.

How much more Colt-70-Series looking can you get than this?

www.colt.com

1911 Classic - Colt's Manufacturing LLC

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Agreed. Especially if you want one good example. Actual Colt at about the same price as a Springfield Armory or Kimber.
 
dmarbell said:
I'm not sure the Colt problems mentioned above occurred with 45 acp guns, or just the 9mm versions. Can someone refresh my memory? I had a certain Colt Competition in 9mm, and it was very picky on ammo. Picky to the point of locking up so tight we had to take extreme measures to get it unlocked.

Folks on a forum dedicated to 1911s warned me away from Ruger SR1911 Koenig Custom Shop guns, mainly based on price. "No Ruger is worth that price." I persisted till I found one in 9mm at a reasonable price, and it I have to say I believe it lives up to the Doug Koenig name. It has as good trigger as any pistol I have ever shot, and runs like a top.

But enough about me. The OP should be able to find a 70 Series gun in an earlier model, and some of the new Colt's are also 70 Series. The Springfield Mil-Spec and Garrison models look like the older Colts to me, but you can decide.

How much more Colt-70-Series looking can you get than this?

www.colt.com

1911 Classic - Colt's Manufacturing LLC

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I like it!
 
fieldgrade said:
This was the Tisas model I handled with clunky lock up.
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Barrel timing...specifically, the barrel was trying to enter the slide too early as it went to battery. Lug corners crash, and...clunk. And...among the possible barrel timing issues...the easiest to correct.

You should've hit me up. I could've likely smoothed out that clunk in about 15 minutes, and you'd have had the pleasure of my excellent company...which I'm told is fascinating...and you could've learned a thing or three about your pistol.

Ah! Missed opportunities. Next time.
 
John Travis said:
Barrel timing...specifically, the barrel was trying to enter the slide too early as it went to battery. Lug corners crash, and...clunk. And...among the possible barrel timing issues...the easiest to correct.

You should've hit me up. I could've likely smoothed out that clunk in about 15 minutes, and you'd have had the pleasure of my excellent company...which I'm told is fascinating...and you could've learned a thing or three about your pistol.

Ah! Missed opportunities. Next time.
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From all the comments I read it seems Tisas 1911’s should really come a bag of parts that require final assembly rather than functional firearms.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
From all the comments I read it seems Tisas 1911’s should really come a bag of parts that require final assembly rather than functional firearms.
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I read the opposite. The ones that are not ready to go are in the minority.
 
I have not bought a new Colt in some time and can not speak for their recent quality, but I handled a new Colt the other day that looked a lot like my old Series 70 pistols. It did not have a beaver tail grip safety or the Series 80 firing pin safety. The barrel was not belled for the bushing with fingers. I did not notice the sights or the ejection port, but it seemed to be just a basic Government model without all the frills.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
From all the comments I read it seems Tisas 1911’s should really come a bag of parts that require final assembly rather than functional firearms.
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I have 3 of them and have done nothing but clean and shoot em. Surprisingly the inside shows no machining marks whatsoever, unlike some others I own.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
From all the comments I read it seems Tisas 1911’s should really come a bag of parts that require final assembly rather than functional firearms.
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I'll withhold judgement until I've seen a couple of'em and had the chance to make some observations and break'em down to take a few measurements. I rarely rely on what I read or hear because some people wouldn't be satisfied if God Himself laid hands on a thing.

Anything mass produced can have an occasional problem, and the more ya make, the more baddies will slip out. This is especially true when your blueprints came from the process of reverse engineering a couple of existing examples...which is almost certainly the case here. I understand that Tisas has been pretty busy bringing all the pistols they can into the pipeline...maybe a little too hurriedly.

Even the bannerman for reliability...the AK47 and all its parts...must be to spec. The manufacturers who've produced them under license had a copy of the blueprints to go by. A gift from the Soviets who were too happy to arm every western-hostile, radical, and revolutionary group who wanted them.
 
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I read the opposite. The ones that are not ready to go are in the minority.
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Any failures are too many IMO. Yes perfection is an impossible goal but in today’s manufacturing environment failures are measured in failures per million not the majority are ok.
This amount of failures really speaks volumes on how sloppy and careless Tisas manufacturing is.
BTW I am not just picking on Tisas or 1911’s. Colt and other large manufacturers have often dropped the ball on quality as well.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
BTW I am not just picking on Tisas or 1911’s. Colt and other large manufacturers have often dropped the ball on quality as well.
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Well, not many of them have a lot of control over quality. The guns aren't built. They're assembled by people who probably had about a week's training before going on the line.

Their parts come from outsourced vendors. While Colt and Springfield do finish machine their raw slide and frame forgings, the rest of it isn't actually manufactured in-house. Colt hasn't even produced its own magazines in close to 70 years. So, they're largely at the mercy of their suppliers. And...as the saying goes...your equipment is brought to you by the lowest bidder.

Not the design. The execution of the design.
 
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