A first for me happened yesterday - scribe for a 4473

IroquoisPliskin said:
Joe Rogan propagated the use of ivermectin for c*****v**** treatment...

If you like them as entertainment that's fine but should never treat him or Jones as legitimate news.
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Yes. Because ivermectin works against Covid.

And what moron would think a podcast is “legitimate news”? I mean besides you. Do you think CNN is “legitimate news”? Because they are not. They are leftist propaganda.

Honestly, your post is so amazingly dumb.
 
Studentofthegun said:
But not a financial one, as you indicated before. I'm not trying to get into semantics here, but if you're going to try to act as if you know what is and isn't true, and tell folks what news sources they should and shouldn't consume, you need to get your own facts straight.

I'm not trying to get onto you here as much as I am trying to make a point that I hope you will take to heart.

It is easy, once you become proficient with firearms and stand behind the counter, to judge other people. Perhaps even to look down on them. Maybe you've even won a few matches. You start to think you've got some answers.

That's actually a very good thing. Being competent with firearms and being able to defend yourself is part of being a capable human being.

Some people have cognitive disabilities that might affect them in one area and not another. They might have financial challenges. It is difficult to know exactly what their deal is when your interaction with them lasts no more than a few minutes while they decide on which firearm they want and then purchase it.

The thing to try to remember, in my humble opinion, is to be as inclusive as you can rather than be exlusive.

We should be trying to encourage firearm ownership. Not curtail it or act as additional arbiters of who should and should not have a firearm over and above what the federal government or state government prescribes.

The right to self defense is sacrosanct. It should be treated as such, especially by a person standing behind a gun counter. Some of your customers will have forgotten more than you will ever know. Some people are ignorant and scared. Why? Well, the world can be a scary place, especially when we have seen the amount of riots and all sorts of other things on television.

Those people, for better or worse, are counting on YOU when they walk in that store. You are, in many cases, the first Ambassador of Firearms they have ever met.

If you don't want to embrace that role and look at it like just another low tier retail job, that's your prerogative. But if you do, you're missing out.
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Scsmith mentioned something earlier about being baffled by someone grown who couldn't sign a check. My point of view isnt biased against people who are poor or didn't go to school or anything. Part of growing up poor for me was going to the library to read books because there was nothing else to do.

It's more like when I encounter someone who hasn't Cared to learn how to read, often times they are just careless in other ways. That extends to firearm use. Everyone that is a part of this discussion cares enough to make themselves heard here, and can read obviously. It's not you guys I'm talking about.
 
NKD said:
Yes. Because ivermectin works against Covid.

And what moron would think a podcast is “legitimate news”? I mean besides you. Do you think CNN is “legitimate news”? Because they are not. They are leftist propaganda.

Honestly, your post is so amazingly dumb.
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Maybe. But you are trailing off topic. The rest of us were having a legitimate discussion.
 
Cape Fear said:
That wasn't me, that was @ChickenHawk. I fully realize that arrogant people come from all over the globe. But this is the second time you've brought it up and not really answered so I'll ask straight out: Where were you born and raised? Not that it really matters, I'm just curious. I have never lived north of North Carolina.

Sounds like we hang around a different crowd (based on the "people you have noticed"). Maybe your disdain for the customer base at your shop should prompt some reflection on your career choices? I love my customers and the ones I don't love, I get rid of. But I'm in a different business than you.
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I'm from Apex NC. The only place I ever lived. I do like my job, but I work on the guns now, don't sell them anymore. Never cared for the retail public much but a job is a job sometimes.
 
IroquoisPliskin said:
It's more like when I encounter someone who hasn't Cared to learn how to read, often times they are just careless in other ways. That extends to firearm use. Everyone that is a part of this discussion cares enough to make themselves heard here, and can read obviously. It's not you guys I'm talking about.
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Maybe those illiterate losers should chime in here. Oh wait... I guess it's up to us to stand up for them.
 
charliesgrave said:
Heck, why stop with illiterates, can't be having undesirables like women and blacks getting firearms either. Maybe we should even limit firearm ownership based on political affiliation? Keep the poor from arming themselves too, because they can't be trusted either.

Here's an idea. Maybe we could start some sort of permitting system that would allow educated people in positions of authority to decide who can have a firearm? Maybe make people pay for the privilege and then deny whoever we want without reason or recourse?

I bet we could get the county sheriffs on board with the idea.
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Now Thats a good idea.
 
ChickenHawk said:
I hope we can eventually know what gunstore not to go to so we can avoid giving business to someone that has such a condescending attitude towards others.
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We could start a list, I know a good few places around here with WAY bigger assholes than the ones at my store, and they will tell you what they think.

I just choose to be happy that we have forums to privately vent our frustration with the general public anonymously since we have to keep a smile on at the job. most retail workers anywhere in general despise humanity at it's core.

I didn't mean offense towards anyone on this thread. I'm just a contrarian.
 
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IroquoisPliskin said:
We could start a list, I know a good few places around here with WAY bigger assholes than the ones at my store, and they will tell you what they think.

I just choose to be happy that we have forums to privately vent our frustration with the general public anonymously since we have to keep a smile on at the job. most retail workers anywhere in general despise humanity at it's core.

I didn't mean offense towards anyone on this thread. I'm just a contrarian.
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I've worked from a line cook, stocker at a grocery store, to managing a $3 million account. It is never smart to vent your frustrations where your potential customers are. If you didn't mean an offense you would have stopped digging at some point. Contrarian is a fancy word for butthole every time I've heard someone call themselves that. Those other places where guys are jerks I tend to not frequent once I find out as well. Being that way and throwing around that you work in a gunshop is a good way to make your boss lose business.
 
ChickenHawk said:
I've worked from a line cook, stocker at a grocery store, to managing a $3 million account. It is never smart to vent your frustrations where your potential customers are. If you didn't mean an offense you would have stopped digging at some point. Contrarian is a fancy word for butthole every time I've heard someone call themselves that. Those other places where guys are jerks I tend to not frequent once I find out as well. Being that way and throwing around that you work in a gunshop is a good way to make your boss lose business.
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Keyword anonymous.
 
IroquoisPliskin said:
Sure.


Who do you guys b**** at? Your wives?

There's a lesson to be learned from all this... And I'm not gonna be the one to figure out what it is.
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Usually coworkers and not my customers. Lol.
 
IroquoisPliskin said:
Sure.


Who do you guys b**** at? Your wives?

There's a lesson to be learned from all this... And I'm not gonna be the one to figure out what it is.
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Yeah you don't seem like you learn many lessons, that I will agree with.

I bitch here plenty, but even when I worked in retail gun sales I didnt hide behind the internet. Tons of folks here know me, knew where I worked and were welcome to come discuss anything I said in person. Still are. But hey, you do you. I'm sure it won't be for long, here at least.
 
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NCLivingBrit said:
Yeah you don't seem like you learn many lessons, that I will agree with.

I bitch here plenty, but even when I worked in retail gun sales I didnt hide behind the internet. Tons of folks here know me, knew where I worked and were welcome to come discuss anything I said in person. Still are. But hey, you do you. I'm sure it won't be for long, here at least.
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Well at first I was just joking in response but now you guys are starting to trash this guy's thread.
 
IroquoisPliskin said:
Well at first I was just joking in response but now you guys are starting to trash this guy's thread.
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Are you allergic to responsibility or something?
 
Wow someone peed in a bunch of people's cheerios

It is possible to be intelligent and have trouble reading. Ever meet someone with Dyslexia? Just because you can read don't mean you are reading the right books, forums or instruction manual.

I've met a lot of people who could quote manuals but not find their way out of a hardware store.
 
DogFather said:
Wow someone peed in a bunch of people's cheerios

It is possible to be intelligent and have trouble reading. Ever meet someone with Dyslexia? Just because you can read don't mean you are reading the right books, forums or instruction manual.

I've met a lot of people who could quote manuals but not find their way out of a hardware store.
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Id say read back the longer comments about that but at the rate this is being derailed by people who don't know how to not be offended by a controversial opinion carrying pitchforks, I'd say it's really not worth your time at this point.

What started as a debate has devolved into something... Else.
 
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BatteryOaksBilly said:
The MAJORITY ya say???????........over 50%..........of gun buyers........end up shooting themselves........Ima give you another opportunity....
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That was taken out of context. Originally majority
BatteryOaksBilly said:
The MAJORITY ya say???????........over 50%..........of gun buyers........end up shooting themselves........Ima give you another opportunity....
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You took that out of context. There was a pew research infographic that said the majority of shootings involve gun owner suicides, not gun owners period. I thought that was kinda obvious.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that a HUGE portion of the public could not read when the constitution was written.

Personally, I read all day long, can type close to 100WPM, and yet I never read my instruction manual about how to use my guns. I will often just take them apart, move the pieces to see how they function, then put them back together again. It was the same thing when I got my first motorcycle at 13yo. By the time I was racing them, I was fully rebuilding the engines on my own. But I digress, I am a stupid southerner that listens to actual science from as many sources as I can find, in which case I then form my own opinions. Duh herrrr...
 
IroquoisPliskin said:
That was taken out of context. Originally majority

You took that out of context. There was a pew research infographic that said the majority of shootings involve gun owner suicides, not gun owners period. I thought that was kinda obvious.
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If your assessment of defensive gun use only takes into account actual shootings, I beg you to do as I asked earlier and read up on this a bit more. Start with Gary Kleck. Even the CDC had to admit that there was validity in defensive gun use that did not involve actual shootings.

I'm not sure you can logically tie shootings that involve suicide to illiteracy. Not sure exactly what your point is there.
 
@IroquoisPliskin If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. All of the "I meant to say", "out of context", "you don't get it" type corrections to a statement here are usually weak tea.

I usually delete 85+% of what I start to write here before even hitting submit, highly recommend you consider that strategy as it forces me to consider whether it really adds to the narrative. Not saying that you shouldn't have an opinion, but perhaps maybe consider the original edit of your statements to much more effective than corrective band-aids after.

A literate man taught me that kinda stuff. YMMV
 
Alfred said:
@IroquoisPliskin If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. All of the "I meant to say", "out of context", "you don't get it" type corrections to a statement here are usually weak tea.

I usually delete 85+% of what I start to write here before even hitting submit, highly recommend you consider that strategy as it forces me to consider whether it really adds to the narrative. Not saying that you shouldn't have an opinion, but perhaps maybe consider the original edit of your statements to much more effective than corrective band-aids after.

A literate man taught me that kinda stuff. YMMV
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thank you sir, I am learning this quickly here. I dont know why that went on as long as it did but I lost interest when the insult exchange started.

I am aware of the general attitude here and about what happened with carolina shooters club being acquired by a canadian holdings group and what not (correct me if im wrong about that please).
But I believe its the same group that now owns HKPRO, maybe not but im pretty sure.
Anyways, to stay relevant the only thing that I learned from anybody on that forum is that in other countries, mainly in the more "libertarian" EU places (to use that term loosely) the gun laws are quite different than they are here,
and in some cases make more sense. For instance, to own any kind of firearm comes with the required passing of a background and proficiency test, but then once the license is obtained there is no barring from acquiring what we consider NFA
items like SBR's and suppressors, and in many cases the suppressors basically come with the firearms they are made for.
If that is of any worth to the people that were wondering about my stance on firearm ownership. Most people I work with feel the same way.

Also everyone forgets that it is within the store managers RIGHTS to deny sale for any reason. No one ever said anything about barring sale to these people mentioned, because they aren't breaking the law, so in turn we will not prevent them from their right to acquire a firearm. It doesn't that mean we dont form opinions about certain customers though, they might come in and think I have a stupid haircut, but IDC. we dont discuss our opinions at the counter, only transactions and at the end of the day no one has been wronged in any way and everyone gets what they want.
 
clay_fv said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that a HUGE portion of the public could not read when the constitution was written.

Personally, I read all day long, can type close to 100WPM, and yet I never read my instruction manual about how to use my guns. I will often just take them apart, move the pieces to see how they function, then put them back together again. It was the same thing when I got my first motorcycle at 13yo. By the time I was racing them, I was fully rebuilding the engines on my own. But I digress, I am a stupid southerner that listens to actual science from as many sources as I can find, in which case I then form my own opinions. Duh herrrr...
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I see you also have a a rick and morty avatar so maybe you got my rick and morty joke a few posts back...
That is if you bothered to read through the flame war which I wouldnt blame you if you didnt.
 
Oh goodie! And I bet they only allow guns that they decide have "a sporting purpose " too.

"in some cases make more sense. For instance, to own any kind of firearm comes with the required passing of a background and proficiency test"
 
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