I like the colt pattern mag thing as well. But I've heard so much bad stuff about springfield i was just curious what you guys thought.PCCs are as popular as ever, but the market is crowded. This appears to be a solid carbine and I love the fact that they are using the old colt pattern mags -proven design. I don’t see anything wrong with this , but people love to hate anything Springfield does, regardless of how it functions and holds up
Most of the anti Springfield stuff is related to politics. God only knows what they must do and say behind closed doors to operate in a state like Illinois. Like any mid priced high volume manufacturer, they have had some other issues, but always seem to address any issues with good customer service.I like the colt pattern mag thing as well. But I've heard so much bad stuff about springfield i was just curious what you guys thought.
SA is an interesting company to be sure. The business model has always been unique. Started off building M1A/M14‘s from surplus USGI parts on new receivers then started branding imported 1911’s from Brazil. I guess it is a good business model as they are still doing it today with the Hellcat and Hellion amongst other things.Most of the anti Springfield stuff is related to politics. God only knows what they must do and say behind closed doors to operate in a state like Illinois. Like any mid priced high volume manufacturer, they have had some other issues, but always seem to address any issues with good customer service.
For a mid priced gun manufacturer they have a good product offering based on what I have owned.
A lot people that own 1911s , XDs , XDS, M1As , and ARs are happy with them - but somewhere along the way it became cool to make fun of this company and hate everything they do - I do not understand it
Prices always start out high for the “I gotta have it first crowd” give it a few months and street price will be much less.Just saw the price. 1300$! Wow.
For a blowback 9mm PCC the CZ evo is my preference. The AR style PCC doesn’t do anything all that well and can be difficult to troubleshoot if issues arise. I think most of these sales are to folks who want an AR but shoot on an indoor range that don’t allow rifle chamberings.
In terms of reliability the choice for colt mags was a smart one. They feed from each side of the stack similar to an MPX or CZ scorpion mag. With respect to a carbine is Much better than a Glock style single feed mag.
I had the same thought. You used to see those at gunshows all the time, but not as much anymore. Somebody makes them new now but i can't remember who or for how much.how popular is the colt mag and what is the cost?
Quite a few companies make them - in the $20-30 range , most are steel. More importantly they are one of the mags that work well in a AR style PCCI had the same thought. You used to see those at gunshows all the time, but not as much anymore. Somebody makes them new now but i can't remember who or for how much.
how popular is the colt mag and what is the cost?
I've been itching for one of those myself lately.No. I have a PCC, and don’t need another unless it has a lever.
Lots of people make them. Metalform is probably the top of the heap. PSA used to sell some MF made but with a PSA baseplate. Brownell’s also sold some of their own. ASC also makes good ones. Quite a few other options I’ve never tried.how popular is the colt mag and what is the cost?
What it the string wrapped around the handguard for. Grip or heat displacement?
Heat. I’d imagine because the van is tucked under that rail and will eventually heat up.What it the string wrapped around the handguard for. Grip or heat displacement?
Seeing as how turk MP5's are coming in at just over 1k, and an MP5 is better than a blowback AR in every conceivable way....no. I'm not buying one nor do I think it'll be a popular product. It's about 2 years too late to market I think.
Don't see why they wouldn't. They recoil far less than a blowback AR and are significantly lighterDo MP5's outperform blowback AR's in competition?
Apparently PCC is huge among competition circles.
Don't see why they wouldn't. They recoil far less than a blowback AR and are significantly lighter