ATF Brace grab -- current status?

[BigWaylon]

Okay, simple question then. If I take a rifle and shorten or remove the buttstock such that the OAL is now less than 26” have I made:
1. an SBR (with a curiously long barrel)
2. An AOW
3. Something else or it depends on other factors.

I’m going with SBR.

 

[JRV]

Okay, simple question then. If I take a rifle and shorten or remove the buttstock such that the OAL is now less than 26” have I made:
1. an SBR (with a curiously long barrel)
2. An AOW
3. Something else or it depends on other factors.

SBR.

26 USC 5485(a)(4) requires NFA registration of "a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length . . . ."

OAL alone can make an SBR if it's a conversion of an existing, completed rifle.

 

[GymB]

I’m going with SBR.

I can’t like this, but I accept it. Guess it doesn’t really matter until you try to transfer it.

followup, if you cut a shotgun stock down so OAL is less than 26” but barrel is longer than either 14” pr 16” whatever the normal not a SBS min length is, does it become a long barrel SBS?

 

[JRV]

I can’t like this, but I accept it. Guess it doesn’t really matter until you try to transfer it.

followup, if you cut a shotgun stock down so OAL is less than 26” but barrel is longer than either 14” pr 16” whatever the normal not a SBS min length is, does it become a long barrel SBS?

28 USC 5485(a)(2): "a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length"

A shotgun under the NFA is a completed firearm that is designed, from the factory, to be shoulder-fired.

The non-NFA smoothbore "firearms" that exist (PGO Mossbergs, Shockwaves, etc.) are configured from the factory so that their OAL is greater than 26" regardless of barrel length.

 

[DrScaryGuy]

SBR.

26 USC 5485(a)(4) requires NFA registration of "a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length . . . ."

OAL alone can make an SBR if it's a conversion of an existing, completed rifle.

You know that ZK22 bullpup chassis for the 10/22 that makes it look like a p90?

 

[BigWaylon]

I can’t like this, but I accept it. Guess it doesn’t really matter until you try to transfer it.

followup, if you cut a shotgun stock down so OAL is less than 26” but barrel is longer than either 14” pr 16” whatever the normal not a SBS min length is, does it become a long barrel SBS?

Yes to the SBS question.

The AOW issue is when you take an AR pistol that measures less than 26” with brace removed (and/or in a folded position if applicable) and add a foregrip.

 

[dubnali]

Pistol->Rifle->Pistol=Good
Rifle->Anything else=Bad

That's an oversimplification, but the easiest way to explain it.

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