CZ 75 or 75B
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Ive never fired a B. However, there's no such thing as a bad CZ
You're not cool unless you own a CZ. Trust me, I read it online
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Coveted? Are they rare or expensive? Don't tell me they cost the world! And info is why I'm here....well mostly....you people are funny as well as knowledgeable!
They aren’t exactly expensive, but they aren’t as easy to get some of the models.
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There are epic threads professing great love for CZ pistols. In fact, the most contentious threads on any topic often devolve into a discussion of Cz pistols.
I purchased an early CZ75B that was imported as a surplus. Love that gun smooth and shoots extremely well. I have a feeling it will be a candidate for some Cajun goodies.
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You can't go wrong. Since you shoot revolvers I would go with the decocker model.
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I have the revolver, but also have shot a keltec .380, which I liked. What does a decocker do for me? Is it a safety issue?You can't go wrong. Since you shoot revolvers I would go with the decocker model.
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Holding an SP-01 is like shaking hands with a unicorn. The 9mm version has the kick of a baby fart. They are reliable and a pleasureven to shoot. If you are serious about looking at a CZ, I would recommed a P-01 Omega. The omega series is a little cheaper in price, but not in quality, and you get the option to switch from a decocker or safety, a great gun in a small package. It will be next CZ.
Lol that's great.
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This will not be true for everyone, so go shake hands with a unicorn to make sure you like it. They fit my hand great. The CZ and 1911s are two of my favorite platforms. I'm so proud of you for not asking about glocks or other garbage.
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@Millie , here is how it works. CZ's are not expensive and shoot very reliably and very accurstely. So you end up buying one. Then as your addiction grows you learn about CZ Custom and Cajun Gun Works. So over time you buy more CZ's. And more expensive CZ's. And you like it. And have fun. And simultaneously you notice your bank and retirement accounts dwindling. But you don't care cause it's fun and they are CZ's. Enjoy!
Edit - CZ makes nice rifles too. This can be a problem.
Edit - CZ makes nice rifles too. This can be a problem.
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My SP-01 is my most favorite handgun that I own. It is very soft shooting and more of an in line push type recoil thanks to the full length dust cover up front and the low bore axis.
I think the tactical sport orange trigger I tried was better than my bolt gun.
CZ makes a great firearm. I can’t really think of any model that I don’t like.
I think the tactical sport orange trigger I tried was better than my bolt gun.
CZ makes a great firearm. I can’t really think of any model that I don’t like.
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I sent you a pm. Find a gun shop with a lay a way program. Glocks are good but don't point well for me. Your revolver is plenty serviceable. You could slick it up with 200 bucks.
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How, and why? Except new grips...lol. Or a pad for my thumb! The revolver is for home. Wanted a semiauto for CC and just because the one I bought eons ago doesn't fit me as well as I want and it's a .25, and because I want another semiauto...lol. You get that, I'm sure......
Slick it up as in springs, trigger job, and timing, making it work better. I understand the want for a gun because I want all of them... well no glocks. Fit of the gun is most important.
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To address a couple points here:
If you are like me and have smallish hands, the full size SP-01's, 75B's, and 75BD's might not be the best fit.
Maybe the P-01, PCR, or 75 compact models would be a better fit to you. I highly suggest finding someone (or a shop with them in stock, but goid luck with that) who will let you hold them for fit. If you are near Cleveland County, I am available and willing to let you contrast and compare, just message me.
Second, as to your question about snappiness. No, they really are not. My wife is recoil sensitive, owns two CZ's (about to be three) and shoots most excellently with them. One factor that plays into this is the design of the 75 series. The slide and frame are milled in such a way so the slide actually rides inside the frame vs outside like most all other semiautomatics. This allows what shooters refer to as a lower bore axis, which means the barrel is lower and closer to lining up with your wrist and arm. This fundamentally changes the way recoil is felt. If you do not understand what Im saying here, thats ok, there are numerous online articles about bore height and axis acessible through google.
Another factor that assists with lower felt recoil is the 75 series full size guns are steel framed while the 75 compact series are alloy framed. This adds weight to the gun allowing it to absorb more of the recoil impulse and further limiting what you feel.
This brings me to my next point, weight. CZ's are heavier than other similar sized handguns. For everyday carry, a lot of people put emphasis on lighter guns. But, I find weight does not matter to me as long as I have a quality leather belt and holster. This distributes the weight so its not uncomfortable to me. You will need to evaluate your personal carry solutions to decide if weight is a factor for you.
As to your question about the decocker:
I don't have a goid answer about what a decocker does for you other than decock the pistol without having to manually control the hammer as you would on a revolver. I personally like the decocker versions better than safety versions. But, again, that's a personal preference.
I hope this answered some of the questions you have. CZ is a quality firearm and you really can't go wrong with one.
And just to reiterate, if you are near Cleveland County, I have full size and compacts, safety and decocker CZ's that I am willing to let you try on for size if you'd like.
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To address a couple points here:
If you are like me and have smallish hands, the full size SP-01's, 75B's, and 75BD's might not be the best fit.
Maybe the P-01, PCR, or 75 compact models would be a better fit to you. I highly suggest finding someone (or a shop with them in stock, but goid luck with that) who will let you hold them for fit. If you are near Cleveland County, I am available and willing to let you contrast and compare, just message me.
Second, as to your question about snappiness. No, they really are not. My wife is recoil sensitive, owns two CZ's (about to be three) and shoots most excellently with them. One factor that plays into this is the design of the 75 series. The slide and frame are milled in such a way so the slide actually rides inside the frame vs outside like most all other semiautomatics. This allows what shooters refer to as a lower bore axis, which means the barrel is lower and closer to lining up with your wrist and arm. This fundamentally changes the way recoil is felt. If you do not understand what Im saying here, thats ok, there are numerous online articles about bore height and axis acessible through google.
Another factor that assists with lower felt recoil is the 75 series full size guns are steel framed while the 75 compact series are alloy framed. This adds weight to the gun allowing it to absorb more of the recoil impulse and further limiting what you feel.
This brings me to my next point, weight. CZ's are heavier than other similar sized handguns. For everyday carry, a lot of people put emphasis on lighter guns. But, I find weight does not matter to me as long as I have a quality leather belt and holster. This distributes the weight so its not uncomfortable to me. You will need to evaluate your personal carry solutions to decide if weight is a factor for you.
As to your question about the decocker:
I don't have a goid answer about what a decocker does for you other than decock the pistol without having to manually control the hammer as you would on a revolver. I personally like the decocker versions better than safety versions. But, again, that's a personal preference.
I hope this answered some of the questions you have. CZ is a quality firearm and you really can't go wrong with one.
And just to reiterate, if you are near Cleveland County, I have full size and compacts, safety and decocker CZ's that I am willing to let you try on for size if you'd like.
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Of course! I love pics of guns! Lol. I'll be looking up Cleveland Co. on mapquest ...if its far, I may not do it....if it's far AND you're easy to find, I might! I'm a great driver, but awful with finding places if you start to get a bunch of turns...and I'm still shaking off my wanderings in Hope Mills and Fayetteville for my CC class..what a freaking' nightmare! But I appreciate that you'd let me come fire someguns...lol.
I love my 75B.
As for the decocker, it works with Single Action/ Double Action pistols. It allows you to safely lower the hammer when there's a round in the chamber; that way, you can carry it not cocked, but ready to go. When the decocker is employed, the hammer doesn't go quite "home" and isn't resting on the transfer bar or in a position to smack the firing pin if dropped or impacted. The first shot/ 1st trigger pull will be double action (as in pulling the trigger both cocks the hammer and releases it), subsequent trigger pulls will be single action (because the 1st shot's activity pushes the slide back, ejects the spent case, strips a fresh round off the mag, and reloads - during which activity he slide also re-cocks the hammer).
The first trigger pull will be noticeably more difficult than the rest - which throws some people off. Be sure and practice if you get one. It's really just a part of getting to know your gun - kinda like driving a stick vs and auto transmission. You get used to it after a while.
As for the decocker, it works with Single Action/ Double Action pistols. It allows you to safely lower the hammer when there's a round in the chamber; that way, you can carry it not cocked, but ready to go. When the decocker is employed, the hammer doesn't go quite "home" and isn't resting on the transfer bar or in a position to smack the firing pin if dropped or impacted. The first shot/ 1st trigger pull will be double action (as in pulling the trigger both cocks the hammer and releases it), subsequent trigger pulls will be single action (because the 1st shot's activity pushes the slide back, ejects the spent case, strips a fresh round off the mag, and reloads - during which activity he slide also re-cocks the hammer).
The first trigger pull will be noticeably more difficult than the rest - which throws some people off. Be sure and practice if you get one. It's really just a part of getting to know your gun - kinda like driving a stick vs and auto transmission. You get used to it after a while.
If you're in Hope Mills/Fayettenam area, you'll definitely be too far away. It seems to me as it was right at four hours from my hometown to Raeford when I was stationed at Bragg.
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I have read about the slide design before, sounded good to me. I dont get all the axis stuff, but do understand the lessened recoil with that design. As to Cleveland it's close-ish. Depends on how "turny" your directions are! I think my hands are biggish for a woman, but I don't know.
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I'm southwest of Fayetteville, was there for my class. I'm about 10 miles south of Radford off 401. 4 hours is a lot! I might have to really think about it! Don't expect to see me for lunch....lol. My friend's husband was stationed there too. She took me down this road and there were soldiers with big rifles there! (Maybe machine guns? I have no idea...big!) She got a kick out of my reaction! Thanks for your service, too. Much respect for all of you who serve! My ex and Mom were Navy.
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But the trigger is fine...what springs? Timing? I used to do a timing job on my old cars back in the day when I could rebuild a carburetor! I'm not sure what you can do for my revolver...it's already good-looking! It's not the gun's fault I listened to the gun guy and got an ultra lite! Lol. It fits my hand really well. Please explain what you mean exactly!
When I got away from Glocks and XD's but still wanted a double stack I picked up the 75b in my avatar. Love that pistol! The grip is much better than the Glock or Xd's IMO. Not as square and blocky. I run mine in Single action, cocked and locked. But mine can also be carried double action, hammer down. I really want to upgrade the internals to single action only to get rid of some of the creep in the trigger. And they are not snappy at all. If this gun is not for carry but for home and range try to get your hands on some of the full size guns. IMO, the 75 series has a very thin grip for a double stack gun.
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Smallish but heavy is what I'm looking for, low snap. I'm going to try anything I can get my hands on! I've not heard of trigger creep yet... Definition please? Or shall I google it? And is a thin grip good or bad?
OHHHH, try to find a 75b. The grip is much smaller than the Glocks. It's all steel, so has a good heft to it. Very little muzzle rise, snap. Trigger creep is that trigger movement where there is little to no weight being taken up. It's also called take up, or just squishy. Mine does it because it's designed to work as SA or DA. The DA has no creep, but a longer trigger pull. You are consistently pulling the hammer back. But with the hammer already back it has a lighter trigger but there is some creep/take up to get the the actual trigger pull where you feel it. So my 75b works similar to a revolver. Except most revolvers don't have the creep, you just get a lighter trigger pull. With a semi auto the trigger starts from the same position in DA or SA, so there is some creep in it when the hammer is already back. They make a kit to fix that and make it SAO, I've just not gotten around to doing it. Or you can buy one SAO. But I got this on used, so that was not an option.
The CZ75 was the original. The CZ75B was the same gun with some minor changes and a Firing pin Block (so the hammer can't be hit causing an unwanted discharge).
They are ergonomic guns that fit a lot of different hands. I think the one downside for small hands is the long reach to the trigger for the first DA pull. After that the trigger resets itself into SA mode and the reach is shorter.
CZ's in general can be had for as low as $400.00 (basic carry guns) all the way up to nearly $4000.00 (hi end competition guns). So they have guns for every budget.
They are ergonomic guns that fit a lot of different hands. I think the one downside for small hands is the long reach to the trigger for the first DA pull. After that the trigger resets itself into SA mode and the reach is shorter.
CZ's in general can be had for as low as $400.00 (basic carry guns) all the way up to nearly $4000.00 (hi end competition guns). So they have guns for every budget.