I never hope to be looking down the barrel, but if I was...

I’m also impressed he did not break the guy’s finger. Ages back we were taught a technique which pretty much wound up breaking the finger in on the trigger by wrenching it in the trigger guard after gaining control of the muzzle and it’s direction (and hopefully knocking the pistol out of battery). Never was at the point to use it thank goodness but it was cool to learn in theory. Weapons retention is a good fighting skill to learn when you’re young, in shape and ready to run into fire but now at my age ... I ain’t to sure anymore.
 
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Keep talking. Asking questions. When someone is asked questions, their mind ponders an answer. That is an interruption in attention cycles
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This reminds me of reading somewhere about giving nonsensical answers also forces them to stop and cogitate which in turn interrupts their loop.
 
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This reminds me of reading somewhere about giving nonsensical answers also forces them to stop and cogitate which in turn interrupts their loop.
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My wife uses this psyops on me whenever I can go straight or turn to get to the desired destination. When I am 20 yards from the turn she yells, “ISN’T THIS WHERE YOU SHOULD TURN??"

We yell at each other for the next 30 minutes whichever choice I make on the road.
 
NCFubar said:
I’m also impressed he did not break the guy’s finger. Ages back we were taught a technique which pretty much wound up breaking the finger in on the trigger by wrenching it in the trigger guard after gaining control of the muzzle and it’s direction (and hopefully knocking the pistol out of battery). Never was at the point to use it thank goodness but it was cool to learn in theory. Weapons retention is a good fighting skill to learn when you’re young, in shape and ready to run into fire but now at my age ... I ain’t to sure anymore.
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Best way to keep from getting finger broke is to keep your finger off the trigger and out of trigger guard😳
 
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That’s my response to panhandling or people getting too close....


Dude: Hey can I ask you something?
Me: My cookies exhaust can’t fly.


Panhandler: Can you spare some money to help me buy gas to get home?
Me: I don’t want your money
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There’s two gas stations close to my house I no longer patronize because the beggars can get in my face faster than a car jacker, and it makes me second guess my ability to defend myself for being so stupid as to let them get in my face before I know it.

Think about it. We’re getting out of the vehicle, getting our wallet out, then our credit card, then manipulating it into the gas pump, hoping it doesn’t have a scanner, then putting it back in your wallet, removing pump, pumping gas, all with a truck on one side of you and a gas pump or two on the other side, all blocking your view.

And screw it all if you get a text or the phone rings in the middle of all this.
 
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There’s two gas stations close to my house I no longer patronize because the beggars can get in my face faster than a car jacker, and it makes me second guess my ability to defend myself for being so stupid as to let them get in my face before I know it.

Think about it. We’re getting out of the vehicle, getting our wallet out, then our credit card, then manipulating it into the gas pump, hoping it doesn’t have a scanner, then putting it back in your wallet, removing pump, pumping gas, all with a truck on one side of you and a gas pump or two on the other side, all blocking your view.

And screw it all if you get a text or the phone rings in the middle of all this.
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You forgot the part where the damnable gas pumps have to play TV too.
 
oetkb said:
There’s two gas stations close to my house I no longer patronize because the beggars can get in my face faster than a car jacker, and it makes me second guess my ability to defend myself for being so stupid as to let them get in my face before I know it.

Think about it. We’re getting out of the vehicle, getting our wallet out, then our credit card, then manipulating it into the gas pump, hoping it doesn’t have a scanner, then putting it back in your wallet, removing pump, pumping gas, all with a truck on one side of you and a gas pump or two on the other side, all blocking your view.

And screw it all if you get a text or the phone rings in the middle of all this.
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You should be sizing up everyone when you pull into the pumps. Make a loop in the parking lot or around the building. Mirror check and head on swivel when getting out of the truck.
 
draco88 said:
Obviously, this is the complete right answer to the sitiation









I have no clue what Id actually do. Hope I never have to find out
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We design match stages where we shoot from close retention like that. But easier said than done at the gas pump.
 
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You should be sizing up everyone when you pull into the pumps. Make a loop in the parking lot or around the building. Mirror check and head on swivel when getting out of the truck.
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Pretty dang busy where i live
 
That said, I can beat The Wizard with my EDC.
But that is not the end all be all.
 
oetkb said:
We design match stages where we shoot from close retention like that. But easier said than done at the gas pump.
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Much easier lol.
I do that at the 25 yd line when Im the only one on the range. Push off the target rack, step back, draw, hip fire 2, extend and fire one aimed at chest. Was rinse repeat x 5. One well used mag, imo.
 
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oetkb said:
There’s two gas stations close to my house I no longer patronize because the beggars can get in my face faster than a car jacker, and it makes me second guess my ability to defend myself for being so stupid as to let them get in my face before I know it.

Think about it. We’re getting out of the vehicle, getting our wallet out, then our credit card, then manipulating it into the gas pump, hoping it doesn’t have a scanner, then putting it back in your wallet, removing pump, pumping gas, all with a truck on one side of you and a gas pump or two on the other side, all blocking your view.

And screw it all if you get a text or the phone rings in the middle of all this.
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Internet operator here. I trained John Wick, Bond and that BigBore bad ass. Look around before exiting the vehicle. The gas station vermin are usally easily spotted. . Then leave your freaking phone in the car. Or be disciplined to ignore it. No need to answer every call or beep right away. Old crusty guys should know this. Scan environment before drawing card or pulling pump. DO NOT let that hot 20 year old with the good ass distract you. Don’t.

And get your gas around 6-7 AM. Most scum aren’t awake at that hour.

And if drawn upon simply snatch that gun away with a quick flick of your hands. Easy.
 
CZfool68 said:
And get your gas around 6-7 AM. Most scum aren’t awake at that hour.
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Last carjack a few miles from my house was at Sheetz at 5AM, a guy shot to the stomach. The vermin don’t get up that early. They stay up that late.
 
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Sounds like you live near FG&G.

My wife calls that Sheetz “where you turn around after being forced to take a right out of FG&G, but never stop for gas”.
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Yea, even I don’t stop for gas there anymore.
 
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Last carjack a few miles from my house was at Sheetz at 5AM, a guy shot to the stomach. The vermin don’t get up that early. They stay up that late.
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6-7 am. Us operators study the timing. 5 is dangerous. Still dark at 5 am most months. Trust me. I’ve been to Oakland, Baltimore, Chicago and Trenton NJ at 6 AM. You are safe, I am an official CFF internet operator.
 
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Yea, even I don’t stop for gas there anymore.
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So I shouldn‘t pick up my new gun, drive to that Sheetz, leave it in the car and go in for a piss and then purchase a bottle of H2O? Obviously the local riff raff has sensed my skills and left me alone. They must have heard of me.
 
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So I shouldn‘t pick up my new gun, drive to that Sheetz, leave it in the car and go in for a piss and then purchase a bottle of H2O? Obviously the local riff raff has sensed my skills and left me alone. They must have heard of me.
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I’m sure that’s what it is.

I got an A+ in Probability and Statistics.

That’s academia slang for "eff around long enough and find out".
 
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@CZfool68, you sound wise in the ways of science. What’s the best time of day to go inside to get scratch-offs and 40s of malt liquor?
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Depends on the desired outcome. If you are looking for a winning ticket 2:15 AM is usually the sweet spot. Bars just closed the lottery luck tries to offset the bad luck you will incur with the local customer base. You may enter, but you may never leave.

A good malt liquor run usually starts about 10 AM.
 
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Sounds like I need to drink my forties in the parking lot for four and a half hours while I wait to win the lottery.

Thanks! I’ll cut you in if this pays off!
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If you’d like to attend a class I offer them for $99.99 in Bitcoin, ammo or beef every week in Durham.
 
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Sounds like I need to drink my forties in the parking lot for four and a half hours while I wait to win the lottery.

Thanks! I’ll cut you in if this pays off!
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If you’d like to attend a class I offer them for $99.99 in Bitcoin, ammo or beef every week in Durham.
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Would you two get a room?
 
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A know a guy who can perform the ceremomny.
Just let me know your preferred pronouns.

*sheesh*
 
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If you ever have the misfortune to have the static from your cellphone set off the vapor coming from your gas tank nozzle, as you blabber away to your best bud, you won’t be worrying about taking down the panhandler asking for a buck. Don’t think it can happen? Exxon shows gas station surveillance video of the impressive results. Happens when leaving an air gap while filling those Chinese plastic gas cans, too. Time to change your diapers time🤓
Sorry, former oil refinery guy couldn’t resist a Public Safety Address🤡
In other words, it pays to read and head the warning signs at the gas station. Tesla’s don’t give a damn.
 
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