Lawsuit against Mecklenburg County Sheriff

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Has anyone heard about this? This was posted in NCGuns on Reddit about 30 minutes ago. Here is the post below:

Hi folks! I’m a lawyer in the Charlotte area, and I have been retained by Gun Owners of America and Grass Roots North Carolina to bring a lawsuit against the Mecklenburg County Sheriff for his failure to issue gun permits in compliance with North Carolina law.

We are looking for plaintiffs who have a pending pistol purchase permit or concealed handgun permit application in Mecklenburg County, and who have experienced delays in the processing of their application.

The legal fees for this suit are being covered by GOA and GRNC. If you are interested in participating, please message me and let me know promptly.

Also, I’m happy to answer any questions that you have about the lawsuit, or anything else regarding the permitting process in Mecklenburg County.

Thanks!
 
This needs to be sent to all CHP instructors in Meck and surrounding counties. When CHP applicants can’t get an appointment to turn in their paperwork for over “X” months after their CHP class they should be part of the lawsuit.
 
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NCFubar said:
This needs to be sent to all CHP instructors in Meck and surrounding counties. When CHP applicants can’t get an appointment to turn in their paperwork for over “X” months after their CHP class they should be part of the lawsuit.
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No doubt. I have two friends that took the class in Jan. First opening for an appointment was mid-June. It’ll probably be a year from the day they took the class until they have a permit in hand.
 
papa_smurf said:
This thread reminded my to pull out mine and check the expiration.
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Good idea.

I did my renewal 30 days after I could have because I didn't actually get notified to pick mine up until about 3.5 weeks after approval. Sooo...when I did look at the exact day, not month, I screwed myself because I had Nov. in mind, not Oct. DOH!

I have to admit that I at least got the reminder postcard from the MCSO in a timely manner, just didn't think much of it because I knew it was coming up.
 
This has been an ongoing problem for years prior to COVID. COVID simply gave the Sheriff a veil of legitimacy in his excuses for delays.
That county will not elect any sheriff that swear to actually follow the oath of office. Same with their city council, state reps and congress critters.
Too many academics, brainwashed students, and Northeast transplants that forgot why they fled the high tax high cost former home state.
NAACP supports the Jim Crow laws that require permits and tactics that illegally deny residents their constitutional rights.
 
fishgutzy said:
This has been an ongoing problem for years prior to COVID. COVID simply gave the Sheriff a veil of legitimacy in his excuses for delays.
That county will not elect any sheriff that swear to actually follow the oath of office. Same with their city council, state reps and congress critters.
Too many academics, brainwashed students, and Northeast transplants that forgot why they fled the high tax high cost former home state.
NAACP supports the Jim Crow laws that require permits and tactics that illegally deny residents their constitutional rights.
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Carmichael was a tad faster. My original only took 6 months. 5 really but the notification thing was nearly a month after approval They were blaming the hospitals. It's not high on their list of things to do since they can't bill for it or some such crap.
 
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TripleO7 said:
The website said they were currently processing Feb. stuff.

http://www.mecksheriff.com/index.php/gun-permits/
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They are processing mid to end of Feb CHP’s … over 7 1/2 months on CHP’s. On top of that the next available appointment to start paperwork and finger printing is end of Jan ‘22 … 4+ months out.

They are processing mid to end of May PPP’s … over 3 1/2 months on PPP’s.

If idiot boy King Roy had signed the damn bill to let the PPP’s be retired the large counties would not have that crap to deal with and could cut into the backlog of CHP’s … but that makes to much sense for a Dim I guess.

I hope the court case comes quickly and a larger class action can be filed for all others on the huge backlog. It would be so appropriate for the awarded damages to be return of all fees (paperwork and finger printing) and say $1 per day to each person outside of the windows stated in the NCGS governing PPP’s and CHP’s … plus issue their PPP’s and CHP’s ASAFP.
 
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Wish they gave some sort of status on the renewals as well. Can't tell if they are in that same pile of new CHP dates or a separate queue.

My / my wife's CHP have been in for renewal since 8/2 and only have a couple of weeks left until expiration.
 
DaveInCLT said:
My / my wife's CHP have been in for renewal since 8/2 and only have a couple of weeks left until expiration.
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That’s just means you have a couple weeks to buy handguns. You can still carry concealed, and buy long guns. 😁
 
Coltdefender1911 said:
I need this guys info. I’ve been waiting on a renewal in meck county since February
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Not calling you out specifically...

I wonder what would happen if people had to wait a 8 months to get or renew a driver license. How is it ok to tell gun owners to kiss your ass?
 
BigWaylon said:
That’s just means you have a couple weeks to buy handguns. You can still carry concealed, and buy long guns. 😁
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Not planning to buy anything near term, but will be selling some so having the permit will make transit for carrying those being sold easier.

I haven't read anything that says you can carry concealed beyond the expiration date (pending delay from sheriff in processing renewals) - can you share where you saw that?
 
DaveInCLT said:
Not planning to buy anything near term, but will be selling some so having the permit will make transit for carrying those being sold easier.

I haven't read anything that says you can carry concealed beyond the expiration date (pending delay from sheriff in processing renewals) - can you share where you saw that?
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It’s been posted here dozens of times. And I’m pretty sure it’s on the website of multiple PD/SD. As long as your renewal was submitted prior to the expiration date, you can continue to carry concealed.
 
@DaveInCLT

§ 14-415.16. Renewal of permit.

(a) At least 45 days prior to the expiration date of a permit, the sheriff of the county where the permit was issued shall send a written notice to the permittee explaining that the permit is about to expire and including information about the requirements for renewal of the permit. The notice shall be sent by first class mail to the last known address of the permittee. Failure to receive a renewal notice shall not relieve a permittee of requirements imposed in this section for renewal of the permit.

(b) The holder of a permit shall apply to renew the permit within the 90-day period prior to its expiration date by filing with the sheriff of the county in which the person resides a renewal form provided by the sheriff's office, an affidavit stating that the permittee remains qualified under the criteria provided in this Article, a newly administered full set of the permittee's fingerprints, and a renewal fee.

(c) Upon receipt of the completed renewal application and the appropriate payment of fees, the sheriff shall determine if the permittee remains qualified to hold a permit in accordance with the provisions of G.S. 14-415.12. The permittee's criminal history shall be updated, including with another inquiry of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), and the sheriff may waive the requirement of taking another firearms safety and training course. If the permittee applies for a renewal of the permit within the 90-day period prior to its expiration date and if the permittee remains qualified to have a permit under G.S. 14-415.12, the sheriff shall renew the permit. The permit of a permittee who complies with this section shall remain valid beyond the expiration date of the permit until the permittee either receives a renewal permit or is denied a renewal permit by the sheriff.

(d) No fingerprints shall be required for a renewal permit if the applicant's fingerprints were submitted to the State Bureau of Investigation after June 30, 2001, on the Automated Fingerprint Information System (AFIS) as prescribed by the State Bureau of Investigation.

(e) If the permittee does not apply to renew the permit prior to its expiration date, but does apply to renew the permit within 60 days after the permit expires, the sheriff may waive the requirement of taking another firearms safety and training course. This subsection does not extend the expiration date of the permit. (1995, c. 398, s. 1; c. 507, s. 22.2(b); 2000-140, s. 103; 2000-191, s. 1; 2009-307, s. 1; 2011-268, s. 18.)
 
The fact that it can’t be used for purchases has nothing to do with the fact it expired. It’s simply because the Brady exemption is 5 years, and the CHP is issued for five years. So…when that time passes, it can no longer be used to take the place of NICS.
 
BigWaylon said:
The fact that it can’t be used for purchases has nothing to do with the fact it expired. It’s simply because the Brady exemption is 5 years, and the CHP is issued for five years. So…when that time passes, it can no longer be used to take the place of NICS.
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NICS is optional for the seller even with unexpired valid CHP or PPP. Remember Next Level Armory? They had it on their website that they would run NICS regardless of permit status. I suspect I've had NICS run on me at Bass Pro. They disappeared in back with my permit for quite some time after I did the 4473 compared to other places I had made purchases. I was standing there with a wad of cash and when the guy came back he said, "OK, you can pay for it now".

BTW there is a store in the old Next Level location on Old Statesville. It's open like four days a week. DC Tactical. Know anything about them?

Next Level also did some crowd source funding in exchange for memberships because they were supposed to open a full range up the road off 77. I wonder what happened to that cash?
 
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fishgutzy said:
This has been an ongoing problem for years prior to COVID. COVID simply gave the Sheriff a veil of legitimacy in his excuses for delays.
That county will not elect any sheriff that swear to actually follow the oath of office. Same with their city council, state reps and congress critters.
Too many academics, brainwashed students, and Northeast transplants that forgot why they fled the high tax high cost former home state.
NAACP supports the Jim Crow laws that require permits and tactics that illegally deny residents their constitutional rights.
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Lets face it, your constitutional right should not even involve getting a piece of paper in order cc.
 
TripleO7 said:
Carmichael was a tad faster. My original only took 6 months. 5 really but the notification thing was nearly a month after approval They were blaming the hospitals. It's not high on their list of things to do since they can't bill for it or some such crap.
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2014 took my wife and I <45 days from the day we applied. That was in Guilford County.
Renewal in Forsyth was <<30 days in 2019.
Anti-gun sheriffs use deliberate understaffing to substantially slow down application processing beyond the lawfully defined limits.
 
fishgutzy said:
2014 took my wife and I <45 days from the day we applied. That was in Guilford County.
Renewal in Forsyth was <<30 days in 2019.
Anti-gun sheriffs use deliberate understaffing to substantially slow down application processing beyond the lawfully defined limits.
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Oddly enough, he does CHP classes at his martial arts school.
 
BigWaylon said:
No doubt. I have two friends that took the class in Jan. First opening for an appointment was mid-June. It’ll probably be a year from the day they took the class until they have a permit in hand.
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Nov 7th. Asked one of the friends at church today if they’d receive their permit. Nope. So five months to get an appointment, and roughly five more so far without a permit. 🙄
 
frakncylons said:
That is bonkers.
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I also said she ought to just walk in the door and ask for it. It very well may be just sitting there. They called me weeks after the date on my last card (or maybe it was my wife’s).
 
I read somewhere that Meck Co is allowing CHP renewals to be filed over the web … no appointments or visits. Anyone know if this is really true?
 
NCFubar said:
I read somewhere that Meck Co is allowing CHP renewals to be filed over the web … no appointments or visits. Anyone know if this is really true?
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Website seems to say that’s the case:

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It is true. Applied for my wife’s and mine online the earliest day we were able to. Our expiration date was in early September. Renewal is still pending.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
BigWaylon said:
Nov 7th. Asked one of the friends at church today if they’d receive their permit. Nope. So five months to get an appointment, and roughly five more so far without a permit. 🙄
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The important thing to keep in mind is all the criminals that are being thwarted and all the violent crimes that are being prevented by the Meck Co sharif‘s egregious and willful contempt for law-abiding citizens.

Yeah, that’s it … 💩

Sharif
Sharīf, also spelled shareef or sherif, feminine sharīfa, plural ashrāf, shurafāʾ, or shurfāʾ, is a term used to designate a person descended, or claiming to be descended, from the family of the prophet Muhammad…
 
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