Lawsuit against Mecklenburg County Sheriff

I suppose if you want to keep up an image, you get to pick the image you keep up. This one isn't real strong on professionalism, but i guess there must be some voter base he appeals to.

He's one step away from hosting a stripper party with the mayor and making his wife so mad a stripper named Strawberry winds up dead. with a coverup from the police. (yes, that's a real story from detroit)
 
Looks like he's keeping his post. I'm kind of relieved because the other candidates were going to be far further to the left than this guy, and the court ruling might have gotten mooted if he became a lame duck or replaced. Now it's his problem to fix.
Obviously, I'd have preferred a conservative but nobody had the nuts to even run on the R ticket.
 
Well, unsurprisingly, he is not adhering to his court order. I am coming up on one year since submitting initial documentation for my CCP, was fingerprinted in mid-November, and still no sign of it. Meanwhile, I received my VA nonresident permit in under 10 days.
 
Supermatch said:
Well, unsurprisingly, he is not adhering to his court order. I am coming up on one year since submitting initial documentation for my CCP, was fingerprinted in mid-November, and still no sign of it. Meanwhile, I received my VA nonresident permit in under 10 days.
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You need to contact GRNC.
 
Timfoilhat said:
You need to contact GRNC.
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I've sent them a note, but have little faith that McFadden will be punished for his criminal behavior in any capacity. Fingers crossed that the housing market takes another dive so I can get out of this hell hole as quickly as possible.
 
They’re currently working on those who were fingerprinted in October ‘21. Although they list quite a few mid-Nov dates that show complete. If yours was one of those, you ought to call.

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Of course my appointment date was one of the ones missing (11/18) :rolleyes:
 
Call. I'm in Caldwell. When mine was about to expire I filed the renewal plenty early enough (as early as they would accept it). A few months later, there is a gun show coming up. I go by the office to buy 3 purchase permits (just in case). My permit would expire a few days before the show. I buy the permits, and I asked about my renewal. She says let me "check". Here you go, it was in the basket of folks for us to call. Thanks. No refund on purchase permits. I keep them as a reminder. So, yeah, call.
 
Supermatch said:
I've sent them a note, but have little faith that McFadden will be punished for his criminal behavior in any capacity. Fingers crossed that the housing market takes another dive so I can get out of this hell hole as quickly as possible.
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Why wait ? Pricing dropping just means you get less for the house you're selling. We sold and bought a new to us house last fall. House we sold went for stupid money. Paid more for the house we bought than it is worth. But the whole thing was pretty much a wash at the end of it all.

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Gator said:
Why wait ? Pricing dropping just means you get less for the house you're selling. We sold and bought a new to us house last fall. House we sold went for stupid money. Paid more for the house we bought than it is worth. But the whole thing was pretty much a wash at the end of it all.

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We live in a very desirable area that will not take as big a hit when the market cools as some of the more rural properties will. We will for sure get more bang for our buck at that point. My career will also likely dictate whether I can stay in NC, or whether I need to head closer to SC/GA.
 
BigWaylon said:
They’re currently working on those who were fingerprinted in October ‘21. Although they list quite a few mid-Nov dates that show complete. If yours was one of those, you ought to call.

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That data hasn’t changed since I posted it. Wonder how often it’s updated? 🤔
 
BigWaylon said:
That data hasn’t changed since I posted it. Wonder how often it’s updated? 🤔
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As much as the amount of applications they process. So about every 6 months.
 
My permit expires 7/18…so I guess I have about a week to buy a handgun without having to fool with PPPs. No idea when the renewal will get processed. (Submitted 4/19)
 
As we all know, all these delays and excuses are just BS. A Sheriff wanting to have his citizens armed can make it happen quickly. Here’s the story of my wife’s CHP that I’ve mentioned elsewhere:

6/11 Class taken and certificate received
6/13 Call SO for appointment
6/14 Go in to apply, pay and get printed
7/1 Sheriff calls to thank and congratulate her. It’s 5:30 so too late to pickup that day. The CHP was issued 2.5 weeks from application.
7/5 Picked up the permit because that was the next working day. Three weeks from application
 
Average Joe said:
As much as the amount of applications they process. So about every 6 months.
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I went back a page and was concerned for a minute. The very first post on page 2 has the exact same info…and was posted in Nov ‘21. But it must be hot linked, as it mentions PPPs from June ‘22 being processed. 😳
 
Jeppo said:
As we all know, all these delays and excuses are just BS. A Sheriff wanting to have his citizens armed can make it happen quickly. Here’s the story of my wife’s CHP that I’ve mentioned elsewhere:

6/11 Class taken and certificate received
6/13 Call SO for appointment
6/14 Go in to apply, pay and get printed
7/1 Sheriff calls to thank and congratulate her. It’s 5:30 so too late to pickup that day. The CHP was issued 2.5 weeks from application.
7/5 Picked up the permit because that was the next working day. Three weeks from application
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And part of that time was the state’s part of the process in Raleigh which included mailing time also … I don’t think your Sheriff’s office let that paper sit on anyone’s desk for very long. You guys are lucky to have him and his staff.
 
BigWaylon said:
I went back a page and was concerned for a minute. The very first post on page 2 has the exact same info…and was posted in Nov ‘21. But it must be hot linked, as it mentions PPPs from June ‘22 being processed. 😳
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Nah. The sheriff has a police box….

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Just received my automated phone call/text message that my permit was approved and is being mailed. Thanks, CMPD :rolleyes:
 
Supermatch said:
Just received my automated phone call/text message that my permit was approved and is being mailed. Thanks, CMPD :rolleyes:
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When you receive it post what your expiration date is … let us see how long it sat in the Sheriff’s office after it was returned from Raleigh after the state did their part and printed it. It kinda shows if he’s dragging his feet in the final delivery portion of the process. It would be funny to compare with others … like say Mrs Jeppo’s Sheriff’s personally handling the call and such to other butt draggers like Wake.
 
NCFubar said:
When you receive it post what your expiration date is … let us see how long it sat in the Sheriff’s office after it was returned from Raleigh after the state did their part and printed it. It kinda shows if he’s dragging his feet in the final delivery portion of the process. It would be funny to compare with others … like say Mrs Jeppo’s Sheriff’s personally handling the call and such to other butt draggers like Wake.
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Will do.
 
I truly hope there is a karma bus on trajectory to land on this derelict pos s**t sheriff (cough, cough) and every one of his staff complicit in his holding a Constutional right hostage for so many law-abiding …

Be extra sweet if the bus is nick-named “Justice Clarence Thomas” …

Feature this (from another 2A forum), “the attached (leaked) email is supposedly from the upper ranks of the NJSP.

They are trying to address the issues with other departments sitting on applications waiting for "guidance".

So, yeah, the New Jersey State Police are doing a 1,000 times better job of complying with orders and decisions of the courts than the pos Sheriff of CM County, NC!

Yep, the world IS officially upside down …

NOTE PARA 2 on Page 2: “The carry permit application package should NOT sit long once the complete packet is received by the PD …” )

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NCFubar said:
When you receive it post what your expiration date is … let us see how long it sat in the Sheriff’s office after it was returned from Raleigh after the state did their part and printed it. It kinda shows if he’s dragging his feet in the final delivery portion of the process. It would be funny to compare with others … like say Mrs Jeppo’s Sheriff’s personally handling the call and such to other butt draggers like Wake.
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Received my permit today, 7/15, exp date is 6/28.
 
Supermatch said:
Received my permit today, 7/15, exp date is 6/28.
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So you got the call on 7/11 … and it’s dated 6/28 … 13 days. Allow a couple days mailings, 4 weekend days and the 4th of July … 7 days. So that means roughly 5 to 6 days in their office … guess it was not as much ass dragging as I was thinking it would be …
 
Question: what is the proper course of action for a NC resident who has a CHP app. in the MeckCo Sheriff’s limbo system but is about to move to Iredell Co?

Background: A family member who‘s CHP app has been caught up in the pos MeckCo Sheriff’s scheme since OCT of 2021 (f’prints submittted Feb, ‘22) is now moving to Iredell County …

Should she just take another course and restart the CHP app process w Iredell County?

She (family member) says she called Iredell Co Sheriff to notify them she is moving to Iredell County and that the woman answered the phone at the Iredell SO told her, “The MeckCo Sheriff is sposed to mail us your app. package once it is completed and then we issue you your CHP.”

I told my family member she might as well wait for pigs to fly (or even better for the pos Meck Co Sheriff to ever be held accountable) for the MeckCo Sheriff to ever mail anything, anywhere …
 
Probably quicker to start over. The course instructors keep records of who gets issued a course certificate, they may be able to generate a replacement certificate for her.
 
You could get a Virginia non resident permit online in a few weeks, that would let you carry until you get your NC permit.
 
MostWanted said:
You could get a Virginia non resident permit online in a few weeks, that would let you carry until you get your NC permit.
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She would still need a new certificate for course completion, but VA accepts photo copies in lieu of originals. I received mine from VA in 10 days including mail delivery both ways.
 
Thank you both!

I‘m passing the info along to her; I predict she’ll contact her instructor(s) as she still gushes about how professional and accommodating the husband wife team were ….
 
nhusa said:
can they use your NC concealed carry permit to prove you too the class?
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Here is what VA accepts:

B. The applicant shall demonstrate competence with a handgun in person by one of the following:

1. Completing a hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Virginia Department of Wildlife Resources or a similar agency of another state;

2. Completing any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;

3. Completing any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law-enforcement agency, institution of higher education, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Criminal Justice Services or a similar agency of another state;

4. Completing any law-enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;

5. Presenting evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition approved by the Department of State Police or current military service or proof of an honorable discharge from any branch of the armed services;

6. Obtaining or previously having held a license to carry a firearm in the Commonwealth or a locality thereof, unless such license has been revoked for cause;

7. Completing any in-person firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association-certified firearms instructor;

8. Completing any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualifying to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties; or

9. Completing any other firearms training that the Virginia Department of State Police deems adequate.

A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any such course or class; an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught such course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document that shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall satisfy the requirement for demonstration of competence with a handgun.
 
BigWaylon said:
They’re currently working on those who were fingerprinted in October ‘21. Although they list quite a few mid-Nov dates that show complete. If yours was one of those, you ought to call.

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I check the Meck site every day or two to see if they’ve updated their counts/dates. Today is the first day in over two months that I’ve seen anything updated.

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@73Chall


In English the term we use, "sheriff" is derived from and old Anglo-Saxon term "shire reeve."

Wikipedia's article "Sheriff" explains here:

Historically, a sheriff was a legal official with responsibility for a shire, the term being a contraction of "shire reeve" (Old English scīrgerefa).[1][2]

In British English, the political or legal office of a sheriff, term of office of a sheriff, or jurisdiction of a sheriff, is called a shrievalty[3] in England and Wales, and a sheriffdom[4] in Scotland.

In modern times, the specific combination of legal, political and ceremonial duties of a sheriff varies greatly from country to country.

In the article "Reeve" Wikipedia explains further:

In Anglo-Saxon England, the reeve was a senior official with local responsibilities under the Crown, such as the chief magistrate of a town or district. After the Norman conquest, it was an office held by a man of lower rank, appointed as manager of a manor and overseer of the peasants. In this later role, historian H. R. Loyn observes, "he is the earliest English specialist in estate management."[1]
 
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Not 100% sure but, at this point I’m thinking I may want to get the contact info for the attorney mentioned in the very first posts this thread … sigh …

UPDATE auto Post # 108 ^up-thread^

My relative called the Iredell Co Sheriff’s Office today for the second time and was told (very professionally, politely and nicely):

“Once you have submitted an application for a NC CHP in one county you canNOT start another application in another county even though your reason is you moved during the period in which you were / are waiting for your first application to be completed”

The SO rep agreed, “Obviously when they wrote the law, the NC General Assembly had no idea CharMeck County would wind up with as big a pos for Sheriff as they currently have and that law-abiding citizens would be made to wait MORE THAN A YEAR to receive their CHP!”

My relative notified the CharMeck SO IN WRITING they were moving over a month ago and the Iredell SO rep remembered my relative calling last week and re-confirmed:

1) CharMeck SO “is supposed to get in touch with us” (apparently, the address originally appearing on the application cannot be changed until right it is at the permit approval point, just before the permit is issued)

2) that they (that specific Iredell SO rep) was the one who called CharMeck SO last week to inquire where my relative’s application is in the CharMeck SO process;

3) that they (Iredell) were STILL WAITING for someone from CharMeck SO to respond to their request for status; and,

4) the Iredell SO rep was going to call CharMeck again. That was Monday of this week and still, crickets.


Sure hope “a friend of the court” is there when the pos excuse for a Sheriff in CharMeck Co is (figuratively speaking) “drowning” so they can toss him a cinder block … my only other request would be, be sure and lightly kiss the cinder block before you try to not (cough) hit him in the head with it!
 
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