Most Accurate Non-AR Semi-Auto Service Rifle

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AR 15/10 can be very accurate but kind of boring. I want to try something new, but only accurate rifles are interesting. For this discussion I have no interest in bolt guns.

What’s the most accurate semi-auto service/battle rifle? I’m talking 1MOA or better with proper ammo.
 
ronn47 said:
M1 Garand or M14 set up for National Match.
M1 Garand if you want the real old school go at it.
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hp468 said:
Yea, M14/M1A in good chassis would be my guess.
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Ahhh…I should add that I have a Garand. I’m looking for a more modern platform. An M14 may be in the running.
 
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Tim said:
AR 15/10 can be very accurate but kind of boring. I want to try something new, but only accurate rifles are interesting. For this discussion I have no interest in bolt guns.

What’s the most accurate semi-auto service/battle rifle? I’m talking 1MOA or better with proper ammo.
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I'd echo the M14/M1 variants suggested so far. Fulton Armory is my particular favorite flavor in that vein, but there's plenty of good stuff out there.

A PSL with good ammo will also pleasantly surprise you, and you won't run into nearly as many folks who have the same gun.
 
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Tim said:
Ahhh…I should add that I have a Garand. I’m looking for a more modern platform. An M14 may be in the running.
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IIRC the Sage EBR was said to be a .5-.75 moa rifle.

It’s an oddball (and may not even be made anymore) but the old juggernaut bullpup chassis for the M1A was surprisingly accurate as well.
 
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PSG1, guaranteed 50 rounds at 1MOA or less before it leaves the factory. May need a second mortgage to play with one, though.

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Matt.Cross said:
I'd echo the M14/M1 variants suggested so far. Fulton Armory is my particular favorite flavor in that vein, but there's plenty of good stuff out there.

A PSL with good ammo will also pleasantly surprise you, and you won't run into nearly as many folks who have the same gun.
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Funny…I’m watching a Netflix show (Bodyguard) where the assassin uses a PSL. That’s what sparked my curiosity.

Interwebz says they’re good for 2MOA. Not quite what I’m after.
 
Tim said:
Yeah….no
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Always wanted one. Until I saw how shart the accuracy is. You can have them accurized for a bunch of money I believe. And I think 3 moa is being generous for a stock one.
 
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I like the concept of .308 SCARs but not a fan of the thin barrel of the SCAR17. I recently saw someone cut down a 7.62 SCAR20S to 16”. Makes it a fantastic length for <500yd engagements, much more maneuverable especially with a can, and you maintain the longer fore end and rail length.

Granted that’s gonna be on the higher end of pricing but if I was going to go all out and get a “forever” battle rifle, I’d try that
 
If you want modern, and accurate, the Robinson XCR in a light or heavy caliber might be an option. I have no personal experience with them(and have heard both good and bad) but the design is interesting and the company has been around for a while. Expensive, but still less or equivalent to some things mentioned here. Someday I'd like to try one.

I don't know if an HK417 is different enough than an AR to you. Those and SCAR-L/SCAR-H would be the other obvious choices. I don't think the Bren 2s or any of the bullpups will be accurate enough.

From everything I've read about M1As they are difficult and expensive to make somewhat accurate and even more difficult to maintain accuracy.
 
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Get a MCX Spear LT. It’s not really an AR.
 
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I have no idea how accurate it is, but I'm temped by the Cetme L in the Classifieds just because it's different and looks cool. If only the timing was right...

SOLD - Marcolmar Cetme L 556 - $1k

Non-railed version. Shot less than a mag. Very cool gun; built like a tank, really nice cerakote and the roller delay recoil impulse is sweet. Comes with a very nice range bag and manual. Would be sad to see this one go. FTF in Kernersville. Would need to see good guy docs for FTF. Or I can...
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Jim C. said:
I have no idea how accurate it is, but I'm temped by the Cetme L in the Classifieds just because it's different and looks cool. If only the timing was right...

SOLD - Marcolmar Cetme L 556 - $1k

Non-railed version. Shot less than a mag. Very cool gun; built like a tank, really nice cerakote and the roller delay recoil impulse is sweet. Comes with a very nice range bag and manual. Would be sad to see this one go. FTF in Kernersville. Would need to see good guy docs for FTF. Or I can...
carolinafirearmsforum.com carolinafirearmsforum.com
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I bought one a while ago, but only shot it once at 50 yds. at steel. Worked fine. I felt that it was going to be an investment because no one seemed to be buying them and there doesn't seem to be too many out there. Looked at this one again today and contemplated buying another - but there's just too many other things I want.
 
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Steyr AUG A3 Initial Accuracy Report

Today The Giant Ginger and I hit the range, and did a bit of accuracy testing with the AUG. He also put it through its paces, loaned me an ACOG, and provided a smorgasbord of ammunition to see...
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The NEW CZ Bren 2 MS – Reviewed by Former Special Forces Operator w/Video

It isn’t often we get a semi-auto rifle design that is wildly different, but not often also doesn’t mean never. And this week we got our hands on one that is way outside of current norms for a battle rifle. New, from CZ, the evolution of the Bren family of rifles. The Bren 2 MS!
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AUG looks pretty accurate. Same with Bren 2.
 
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pinkbunny said:
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Steyr AUG A3 Initial Accuracy Report

Today The Giant Ginger and I hit the range, and did a bit of accuracy testing with the AUG. He also put it through its paces, loaned me an ACOG, and provided a smorgasbord of ammunition to see...
www.randomgunstuff.com
www.gunsamerica.com

The NEW CZ Bren 2 MS – Reviewed by Former Special Forces Operator w/Video

It isn’t often we get a semi-auto rifle design that is wildly different, but not often also doesn’t mean never. And this week we got our hands on one that is way outside of current norms for a battle rifle. New, from CZ, the evolution of the Bren family of rifles. The Bren 2 MS!
www.gunsamerica.com www.gunsamerica.com

AUG looks pretty accurate. Same with Bren 2.
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That Bren just made the list. Pretty much exactly what I’m after.
 
IWI Carmel - Not quite a service rifle, but certainly designed / built with that in find.

CZ Bren 2 would be a contender, but honestly I'm not sure how much support is out there for those. CZ doesn't really seem to be pushing mil/le anymore after the Colt deal and seems to be focusing on competition race guns.

Pretty much every modern service rifle that is going to be anywhere near 1 MOA out the box is going to be an AR or AR variant.

There is a smattering of AK variants you could try as well. Some of the higher end ones do pretty good in the accuracy department from my understanding.

I'd stay away from the M14 for serious, hassle free, use. It's kinda like how all Southerners try to explain catfish & grits... Well have you tried it this way? Oh, if you don't do it just this one special way then yeah it tastes like garbage...
 
Go Bren2. Just ran another flawless 100rd thru mine this morning. Its definitely my fav 5.56 out of my horde. You wont be disappointed.
 
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Are purpose built competition M14s really "service" rifles? The average milspec M14 is a 3 moa rifle. Yes you can get M14s that are sub MOA but at what cost? The cheapest M14 from Fulton Armory is $3050 and the competition one is $3300.
Yea thats about the same as a SCAR 17 but the SCAR 17 is a far better platform.



11B CIB said:
I like the concept of .308 SCARs but not a fan of the thin barrel of the SCAR17. I recently saw someone cut down a 7.62 SCAR20S to 16”. Makes it a fantastic length for <500yd engagements, much more maneuverable especially with a can, and you maintain the longer fore end and rail length.

Granted that’s gonna be on the higher end of pricing but if I was going to go all out and get a “forever” battle rifle, I’d try that
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I was very impressed with a friends Mk17 Mod 0 clone.
 
I've been around quite a few National Match caliber shooters...to a man, they declared once they had completed their personal goals in Service Rifle Comps, the M1As would be Sold.....and they did....
 
Steyr Aug is supposed to be pretty accurate. I’ve never been a good enough shot to wring out the potential accuracy when shooting them but in more skilled hands, like the ones that Guns and Ammo apparently have access to:
“Even with military-grade ammo, the AUG/A3 had no problems printing five-shot groups from 100 yards into 1 inch or less.”
Maybe a little hyperbole but seems possible.
 
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You could probably make a FAL as accurate as an M14. Good looking guns.
 
Pretty sure I'm giving up on this project. Seems the answer is "you can pay 3x as much $$ for 1/3 the accuracy".

Guess I'll stick with boring.
 
Tim said:
Pretty sure I'm giving up on this project. Seems the answer is "you can pay 3x as much $$ for 1/3 the accuracy".

Guess I'll stick with boring.
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One of the most fun guns I ever owned was a Mid gas DPMS LR308 with a 14" BBL. The muzzle devise brought it to 16" OAL. I ran one of these handguards: https://www.precisionreflex.com/114-delta

The triangle shape was just great. The rifle had this ACOG on it: https://www.trijicon.com/products/details/ta11c

With the MagPul Carbine Stock: https://magpul.com/moe-fixed-carbine-stock-mil-spec.html?mp_global_color=118

I would assume you can rebuild that rifle
 
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