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Me. said:
Thing is.... if you don't lower the rear below factory, you don't violate the law.

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If you lift the rear and lift the front more, you haven't broken the law.



Prohibited Modifications. – A private
passenger automobile shall not be modified or altered by (i) elevating the automobile more than
3 inches from the manufacturer's specified height in the front and (ii) lowering the automobile
more than 2 inches from the manufacturer's specified height in the rear. A private passenger
automobile modified or altered in violation of this subsection shall not be operated upon any
highway or public vehicular area without the prior written approval of the Commissioner.area.
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If the law passes, no doubt some knuckheads will do exactly this. I doubt that the letter of the law will matter to the police charged with enforcement. If they see the steep angle of headlights pointing skyward they'll be writing a ticket.
 
Me. said:
When I was younger I certainly thought the opposite stance was cool... high in the back....

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Yeah, but that was cool and served a purpose
 
fieldgrade said:
What I want to know is how do they make them actually louder than running headers with no exhaust system?
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Now I’d like to know the answer to that too! And how do they sound like such garbadge?

A true hot rod, loud exhaust still today makes me smile, but not all these damn stock engines and crap.
 
fieldgrade said:
What I want to know is how do they make them actually louder than running headers with no exhaust system?
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The couple I failed on state inspection had no mufflers or cats.

This law is dumb. The vast majority of them will already fail a state inspection for several things. Most of them already shouldn't be on the road.
 
TRaGiK said:
The couple I failed on state inspection had no mufflers or cats.

This law is dumb. The vast majority of them will already fail a state inspection for several things. Most of them already shouldn't be on the road.
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I get the sense that the people who have ratty cars/trucks know who to pay for their inspections. My neighbors have a car with limo black tint that always passes. They have another, a van with a cracked windshield. Always passed.
Since the inspection is just a money grab, no doubt there's shops that'll pass you for beer money.
 
Timfoilhat said:
I get the sense that the people who have ratty cars/trucks know who to pay for their inspections. My neighbors have a car with limo black tint that always passes. They have another, a van with a cracked windshield. Always passed.
Since the inspection is just a money grab, no doubt there's shops that'll pass you for beer money.
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Cracked windshields WILL legally pass inspection. It can be completely fubard in front of the driver, and that will still pass.

And no doubt they know who to pay to pass their crap. If the DMV actually, TRULY, cared about anything but money, they'd be going after shops that pass vehicles that are truly safety hazards.

When I was still co owner of my shop, I frequently spoke to other shop owners. One of them had a squatted truck on the rack that was so bad he told us to come look at it. It was a 1 year old Ford Raptor. Suspension components were missing nuts, and the vehicle owner put zip ties on the end of the bolt to hold it in. The owner had also notched the rear of the frame so the rear of the truck would sit even lower (there's a right way and wrong way to do that....guess which way they did it).

Regardless, the new law is stupid, the squatted trucks are stupid (and many of them legitimately dangerous), and the whole inspection thing is a sham.
 
TRaGiK said:
Cracked windshields WILL legally pass inspection. It can be completely fubard in front of the driver, and that will still pass.

And no doubt they know who to pay to pass their crap. If the DMV actually, TRULY, cared about anything but money, they'd be going after shops that pass vehicles that are truly safety hazards.

When I was still co owner of my shop, I frequently spoke to other shop owners. One of them had a squatted truck on the rack that was so bad he told us to come look at it. It was a 1 year old Ford Raptor. Suspension components were missing nuts, and the vehicle owner put zip ties on the end of the bolt to hold it in. The owner had also notched the rear of the frame so the rear of the truck would sit even lower (there's a right way and wrong way to do that....guess which way they did it).

Regardless, the new law is stupid, the squatted trucks are stupid (and many of them legitimately dangerous), and the whole inspection thing is a sham.
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Zip ties 😯
 
TRaGiK said:
Literal zip ties and bailing wire is what held all the front suspension together on the truck. I wish I was joking, exaggerating, or flat out lying. Unfortunately I'm not.
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And on a new Raptor??
Holy crap. That’s like an $80,000 truck.
 
TRaGiK said:
Literal zip ties and bailing wire is what held all the front suspension together on the truck. I wish I was joking, exaggerating, or flat out lying. Unfortunately I'm not.
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I've seen shocks held in mounts by epoxy.
 
fieldgrade said:
And on a new Raptor??
Holy crap. That’s like an $80,000 truck.
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So you know how people say "built with daddy's money" or some such crap? This truck wasn't far off from that.

The following is info the shop owner where the truck was at, told me.

Grandpa of the vehicle owner (a 19 year old kid), bought the kid the truck. Grandpa also kept shoveling money to the kid so he could "build" the truck. Grandpa had no idea the kid was ruining it. Grandpa was great friends with the owner of the shop the truck was at, so shop owner let grandpa know what the kid had been doing. Grandpa was IRATE. Had the shop fix the truck as best as could possibly be done (rear part of the frame had been cut, so it was technically a salvage vehicle at this point), took the truck back, and sold it for like 1/4 of what he paid for it.
 
hey man. i held my cat to my muffler with c clamps and a wire hanger. it held together for years until some other parts finally rusted through. A well thought-out "quick and temporary" fix is at least as good as anything the auto engineers can come up with for the cheaper cars.

got my inspection done the other day at the shop where i get all my repairs done for my 07 chevy cobalt. $13 charge and a whole lot of "PASS" on a sheet. I know for a fact it was throwing a bunch of evap codes and other stuff when I dropped it off, because the check engine light was on and i used a bluetooth OBD reader. also, I know my rear passenger turn indicator is out. that should have been 2 fails. I also know that it spits a rich mix when i first start it up, so that should probably have been another.
but whatever. i can get my renewal now.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
hey man. i held my cat to my muffler with c clamps and a wire hanger. it held together for years until some other parts finally rusted through. A well thought-out "quick and temporary" fix is at least as good as anything the auto engineers can come up with for the cheaper cars.

got my inspection done the other day at the shop where i get all my repairs done for my 07 chevy cobalt. $13 charge and a whole lot of "PASS" on a sheet. I know for a fact it was throwing a bunch of evap codes and other stuff when I dropped it off, because the check engine light was on and i used a bluetooth OBD reader. also, I know my rear passenger turn indicator is out. that should have been 2 fails. I also know that it spits a rich mix when i first start it up, so that should probably have been another.
but whatever. i can get my renewal now.
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$13 is a safety only inspection. Meaning emissions isn't checked at all. I think most of the NC counties has reverted back to safety only inspections.

Should have failed for the turn signal. Many shops are lazy and don't check anything as they feel it isn't worth their time.
 
Timfoilhat said:
I've only seen one of these so far. I don't care for the look. I question the safety.
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Yep, I had one blinding me with his sky-aimed headlights this morning on the way to work. I bet you can't see a thing for 10 feet in front of you.
 
hp468 said:
Yay more laws!!!

So glad to see the folks in Raleigh working on things that matter. :rolleyes:
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Hard for me to get excited about more regulations. Even when they're banning something I don't like, it's still another law.
 
I'm not a fan of laws restricting vehicle modifications, but this is a good one. The WhistlinDiesel videos posted above are hilarious, and a perfect illustration of how unsafe these things really are.
 
TRaGiK said:
So you know how people say "built with daddy's money" or some such crap? This truck wasn't far off from that.

The following is info the shop owner where the truck was at, told me.

Grandpa of the vehicle owner (a 19 year old kid), bought the kid the truck. Grandpa also kept shoveling money to the kid so he could "build" the truck. Grandpa had no idea the kid was ruining it. Grandpa was great friends with the owner of the shop the truck was at, so shop owner let grandpa know what the kid had been doing. Grandpa was IRATE. Had the shop fix the truck as best as could possibly be done (rear part of the frame had been cut, so it was technically a salvage vehicle at this point), took the truck back, and sold it for like 1/4 of what he paid for it.
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I hope Granpa took him out behind the shed and beat him with a quarter stick of stovelength.
The gene pool needs a shot of chlorine smdh
 
HMP said:
This crap has plagued my high school parking lot. So dumb.

That said, it's their car and I dont think there should be a law banning it.
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I agree with you and @TRaGiK , without the suspension mods, the vehicles probably won't pass inspection anyway. Headlight alignment is the most obvious thing. I doubt if there is enough adjustment in the headlight to get them into spec.

That said, inspection stickers can be had. In Virginia many, many years ago, there was a place that you could go with the vehicle's VIN and mileage written on a piece of paper and get a new sticker without the vehicle being present. Those stickers would cost you a few dollars more than a legitimate sticker, though.

Here in TX, all they do is check the lights and odometer. Then the info is entered into a computer. You have to have a current inspection to renew your tags. When you go to renew the tags, your inspection info is displayed for them to see.
 
I'm not a fan either ,but we have way more important things for lawmakers to be working on.
We need to get rid of HSA's and 3/4 of the laws on the books . Then enforce the ones that are left.



If I had to guess, the squats with the Trump flags flying got this whole thing started.
 
HMP said:
This crap has plagued my high school parking lot. So dumb.

That said, it's their car and I dont think there should be a law banning it.
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Except their dumbass trend makes it way more likely an already distracted person (because this always seems to be dumbasses who have their phone in one hand permanently) can't see anything in front of them. If one of these chucklef**ks rams the back of my car or worse yet, climbs it, I am going to jail for shooting a dumbass.
 
When I was a kid in the 1970s jacked up rear ends, HiJackers, shackles, and traction bars were on full display everywhere, especially circling The Big Rebel Drive-In. Saw a lifted front a few times back then too. When I asked someone 'why the front-lift?' I was told "don't know, maybe it makes them think they're pulling a wheelie"...

I was hoping this was going to be a pic thread of drunk-girls-peeing.
 
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