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No Trespassing .. ( Purple Paint Law)
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If you have the right to spray paint over my No Trespassing purple, then I have the right to spray "Weasel House" on your front door.
From a hair-splitting legal precedent perspective, maybe. From the perspective of right vs. wrong, they're not.
(With the caveat of not sure what you mean by "buffered") Getting away with it is not the same as it being ethically or morally correct.
Yeah, I wish it was chartreuse like my favorite color of spinnerbait skirt.
I suppose you find traffic lights to be repugnant also. It probably means something that is worth understanding if someone goes to all the trouble and expense of putting up paint rectangles every 100 yards. It is repugnant that you would not try to find out what it means and that you would vandalize his property.
Protip: strip the bark off lightly with a draw knife before painting it purple.
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The crappiest part of this whole thing is that it even IS something that needs to exist. The morality of people and our mutual respect for each other has been steadily degrading.
In my childhood, I was taught not to destroy other folks stuff, property included. Taught what our family property meant vs the neighboring ones as far as useage and care. It was basically dad saying "yes you can roam/hunt the neighbors side of the mountain too. But if he tells me you did ANYTHING you know not to, I will beat your ass".
I remember the day I knew that situation changed. The fella who owned the other side of the mountain had passed and his kin had been selling it off. 15ish year old me was walking the old logging road that separates the two (the road was on our side) dude comes literally running up the ridge yelling at me to get off his property. Threatening bodily harm and calling the law. Mind you to a confused as hell kid with a 12g...
But it turns out another parcel had been sold to someone else and their kids were tearing off down onto his property with atv's causing washes into his yard and leaving trash everywhere.
One group of idiots ruined the relationships of the owners of property in a huge area....
It's a danged shame but I fully agree. If it ain't yours. stay the hell out.
In my childhood, I was taught not to destroy other folks stuff, property included. Taught what our family property meant vs the neighboring ones as far as useage and care. It was basically dad saying "yes you can roam/hunt the neighbors side of the mountain too. But if he tells me you did ANYTHING you know not to, I will beat your ass".
I remember the day I knew that situation changed. The fella who owned the other side of the mountain had passed and his kin had been selling it off. 15ish year old me was walking the old logging road that separates the two (the road was on our side) dude comes literally running up the ridge yelling at me to get off his property. Threatening bodily harm and calling the law. Mind you to a confused as hell kid with a 12g...
But it turns out another parcel had been sold to someone else and their kids were tearing off down onto his property with atv's causing washes into his yard and leaving trash everywhere.
One group of idiots ruined the relationships of the owners of property in a huge area....
It's a danged shame but I fully agree. If it ain't yours. stay the hell out.
I agree. Kids used to go all over others property and respected it and got permission first and everyone got to hunt and fish most everywhere. Now everyone wants to sue and has more rights on your property than you do so now things are crappy out of necessity. It sucks.
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I'm really trying to understand the sentiment here. You say you don't ignore other people's property rights, yet you find their property markers repugnant and would deface them? (Thereby, ignoring their property rights) You don't like purple? You prefer more traditional methods of delineation like barbed wire? You prefer the view of land as belonging to everyone and no one can own it?
If a landowner let's you hunt their land, share what you harvest from their land. My father always took a tenderloin to a landowner who let him hunt their land when he he got a deer.
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My comment was an inarticulate and tongue-in-cheek way of expressing that laws should be clear and readily known and understood by the population; obscure stuff like purple paint has no business being part of the law. Or, as you said, a more traditional method of property delineation is appropriate.
People probably shouldn't have to spend several hundred bucks on U-channel and T-posts and No Trespassing signs to give their property rights any sort of teeth.
If somebody walks up to patch of woods and every 10th tree has a band of obnoxious purple paint on it and they don't question the significance of said markings, they probably shouldn't be outside in the first place.
With one can of paint, one can pretty easily cover the perimeter of a good 10 acre tract of woods. That same tract marked in a "traditional" method would cost considerably more (time and money) with sign posts, barbed wire through cedars, locusts posts, etc. As far as simply nailing signs to trees, a good 95% of the population doesn't realize you should use aluminum nails and that should be left sticking out about 4 inches if you want the signs to last longer than one year. Even then, "No Trespassing" signs are short lived items very prone to vandalization.
I grew up near extensive experimental forested land where trees were marked with a variety of colored ribbons or paint to indicate different diseases, disease treatment, or cutting status. Before reading this thread, it would have never occurred to me to question why paint was on a tree and certainly not imagine that paint was a substitute for No Trespassing signs.
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This ^^^^^ is where it gets easy to understand in S.C....ALL private property is considered POSTED...No signage necessary. In S.C. the Law is simple....no written permission for where you are...You get a summons. Alot easier that way......A man told me....I didn't know this was Your land....I replied....You knew it wasn't Your land.
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Ok. Well, the purple paint thing is apparently relatively new in some areas. So, it will take a while too become public knowledge. It was new to me until last year. As a modest land owner, I was glad to find out about it. I can't afford the thousands of dollars to fence my property and there's been a serious problem with theft and vandalism in the area. Some people have used part of my property as a dump for refuse. The marking allows for some legal action, where there may be none if not marked. Or at least contestable. Some violators are hostile and I mean violently so. I think most don't post until there's a problem.
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Going back at least fifty years in Montana, one color meant "OK, just be respectful, leave no trash, close gates behind you, etc", another color meant "No trespassing, expect to be arrested", and yet another meant: "better have said your goodbyes and have your affairs in order..."
This thread is kind of funny to me. The guy who owns the property adjoining mine timbered his land a year ago. Took ALL the trees down on his land then had the nerve to cross onto my property and put signage up on MY trees stating No Trespassing…
This is much more rational than the typical open-unless-posted approach. This is how laws should be - simple, easily understood, and consistent.
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A lot of you guys aren't going to want to hear this but what ruined it was Four-Wheelers. Their predecessor was a horse or a dirt bike (both of which take skill to ride) especially moving fast enough to disturb the ground beneath you. A four wheeler takes no skill to ride so any moron can do it, morons can't have any real fun unless they're spraying rooster tails everywhere they go (erosion problem) and morons can justify in their moron minds that leaving trash behind, cutting fences, tearing down signs is "morally just" ...and in general that property rights are "stupid". They're the most destructive trespassers since Sherman's Army.
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Now, THERE'S an idea, we can mark according to Cooper's color code!
Well, he doesn't have any trees to post on, duh! 🤪
Actually, I've considered T-post with PVC pipe sections over them, painted purple for one area.
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Makes you wonder who raised these morons.
I think a bounty system should be enacted.
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I wonder how old that boundary is. If it was a big enough tract to timber, it should likely have had a identifiable tree line right on the property line where birds used to sit on a fence and poop. Those trees should have stayed.
We just clear cut a 55 acre tract. We did exactly that.
The ancient barbed wire fence around it is pretty much rusted away into oblivion. Due to the 4-wheelers, meth heads, poachers, and people that either can't or won't read maps, we're looking into fencing the entire perimeter and having locked gates ($$$). It doesn't really need a fence for any other reason since it was and is a timber tract. It was time to clear cut it (had been thinned twice already), but these yahoos were also a motivation to clear cut, so they can't hide. The run-down three-room shack my mama grew up in is on that tract, and it had been vandalized with graffiti and trash. Similar comments apply to our other property.
We've posted a lot, but have not gotten around to purple painting; local knowledge about that is sparse. We are also going through all the paperwork to participate in this SC DNR program: https://www.dnr.sc.gov/propertywatch/index.html
Our properties were divided by a 3 foot wide fire lane…. They cut all his stuff then crossed the fire lane to post on my property.
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To add to this, for those who "don't use technology"
The tax office in every county in NC has plat maps of every property in that county. You can look up property lines free of charge, and they'll make you copies of maps for $0.25. In most NC counties, you can also access this information free of charge on the internet. If you're willing to do just a few minutes of homework, its not hard to figure out where you are, and aren't supposed to be.
I really like it. Have just over 60 acres in Rockingham County and once I originally marked it, I can go back around the boundary with a back pack full of spray cans in a couple hours. When I posted signs, it would take all day due to the hills and gullies. I would also carry a step ladder to try to get the signs high enough. Did not work, still got torn down on one side. Funny thing is, I did not even post the property when I first bought it and did not live here yet. Figured if somebody popped a deer during the week, I would never know it and the gut pile would be gone by the time I came up. Then had a tree stand tore up, then a feeder, then the four wheelers came. So I posted and became hardcore about running anybody off that I caught. They screwed themselves out of a good thing with their vandalism. Purple paint is the ticket. And I would assume that anyone on here that has not heard about it has not been hunting long or is not a property owner. Not funny when your property is damaged. And yes I hunt deer and deer hunters are in general the scum of the hunting community up this way.
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Just be aware that purple paint in spray cans is mighty scarce right now. All paint is empty shelf joe'd, but I've not seen purple anywhere. Lowes in Elkin had some weird tint of blue (as of today) that's kinda purple.
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Lowes in Asheville has a bunch, Krylon "No Hunting" Purple. Plan to get some as we had our SC property surveyed this week. It's just 2.3 acres but there's a lot of ATV use in the area.
Is there a particular pattern you're supposed to use? I saw mention of triangles, but all I have ever seen was a simple band painted around trees.
I can't speak for anywhere but my ao, about eye level, 2' in height, 360 degrees around the tree.
The technique is a high quality outdoor paint (not spray paint). Take a draw knife and shave off the bark (don't actually cut into the cambrium) then paint a nice wide band. Find some of the smaller diamond shaped "No Trespassing" signs and hang them with a 20d aluminum nails. Hammer them in at an angle, and only hammer them in half way, so as the tree grows, the sign is pushed forward, the nails straightened, instead of being torn out of the nail hole.
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As of 10-27-21 Lowes in Wilkesboro had a half-dozen Krylon "No Hunting" Purple over near the underground line marking and parking-lot striping paint.
Wilkesboro Walmart spraybum shelves are pretty much wiped out just like Elkin was, but I figured out the Rust-Oleum version NHP is right over with the towelbars and bathroom hardware just like it's supposed to be.
After reading the post by @beamernc I looked up the actual Purple Paint law § 14-159.7.(2). I was very surprised the law only dealt with trespass to "hunt, fish, or trap" or "remove pine needles or pine straw" rather than trespassing in general.
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So, yesterday, as we were preparing to leave the property on an errand, I hear a shotgun blast that was obviously on our property. I hear another one as we leave the gate. Our property goes back to another road. We go to investigate and as we turn the corner on the road, we see a white pickup parked in an unused driveway across from our property, with the driver door open. We drive up and there's a guy standing in the drive with an open carry Glock. We mention, someone is shooting on our property. He mentions it's deer season. He's apparently the adjacent property owner from our conversation. We talk a little local history, including a neighbor that borders my property. He says she was his teacher in school. We convey how we don't mind hunting, but not on our property.
We leave with pleasantries.
Obviously, he's linked to whomever was on our land shooting. Talking to the school teacher/neighbor reveals he was not who he says he was. That man he claimed to be is a preacher and "too big" to be trapsing through the woods hunting. But, based on photographs, he's probably related and the neighbor says a white pick up is on that property often a the mom's house. She's going to help us sort it out.
Anyway, annoyed that he lied and he knew it wasn't his land and he knew he was doing something wrong.
I have some 4" tall purple plastic non-adhesive tape marked with No Trespassing, to band some trees with. That's going up as soon as it stops raining.
We leave with pleasantries.
Obviously, he's linked to whomever was on our land shooting. Talking to the school teacher/neighbor reveals he was not who he says he was. That man he claimed to be is a preacher and "too big" to be trapsing through the woods hunting. But, based on photographs, he's probably related and the neighbor says a white pick up is on that property often a the mom's house. She's going to help us sort it out.
Anyway, annoyed that he lied and he knew it wasn't his land and he knew he was doing something wrong.
I have some 4" tall purple plastic non-adhesive tape marked with No Trespassing, to band some trees with. That's going up as soon as it stops raining.
What is the appropriate course of action if you’re hunting on land with permission and you shoot an animal but it still bolts into another person tract of land? Do you just go track it or is it a “sucks to be you” situation? I’m sure you could find the property owner and ask permission to look for the animal but what if it takes a day or two to get permission?
Thank you just so I could like it again. Dam trespassers know exactly what they’re doing. In my deer hunting days it was all I could do to keep from shooting a few of em. And the repeat offenders needs shooting.
You certainly do know when you don’t have permission to hunt a property or you shouldn’t be hunting anywhere!