He didn’t have a backhoe.There’s a fella not far from me charged with first degree murder because of this. It’s conundrum knowing what to do with trespassers.
He didn’t have a backhoe.There’s a fella not far from me charged with first degree murder because of this. It’s conundrum knowing what to do with trespassers.
If you have the right to spray paint over my No Trespassing purple, then I have the right to spray "Weasel House" on your front door.On a day when I am grumpy (more often lately) I might be tempted to carry a can of spray paint in a contrasting color to spray over the purple squares.
From a hair-splitting legal precedent perspective, maybe. From the perspective of right vs. wrong, they're not.Property rights are weird.
(With the caveat of not sure what you mean by "buffered") Getting away with it is not the same as it being ethically or morally correct.There are areas out west in which there are acres, sometimes hundreds of acres, of buffered land in between ranches or properties. Some people will squat on them, sometimes one of the ranches will take over
Yeah, I wish it was chartreuse like my favorite color of spinnerbait skirt.I do not ignore other people's property rights, but I do find the concept that purple paint is supposed to mean something to be highly repugnant.
YMMV and probably will.
I suppose you find traffic lights to be repugnant also. It probably means something that is worth understanding if someone goes to all the trouble and expense of putting up paint rectangles every 100 yards. It is repugnant that you would not try to find out what it means and that you would vandalize his property.I do not ignore other people's property rights, but I do find the concept that purple paint is supposed to mean something to be highly repugnant.
YMMV and probably will.
I agree. Kids used to go all over others property and respected it and got permission first and everyone got to hunt and fish most everywhere. Now everyone wants to sue and has more rights on your property than you do so now things are crappy out of necessity. It sucks.The crappiest part of this whole thing is that it even IS something that needs to exist. The morality of people and our mutual respect for each other has been steadily degrading.
In my childhood, I was taught not to destroy other folks stuff, property included. Taught what our family property meant vs the neighboring ones as far as useage and care. It was basically dad saying "yes you can roam/hunt the neighbors side of the mountain too. But if he tells me you did ANYTHING you know not to, I will beat your ass".
I remember the day I knew that situation changed. The fella who owned the other side of the mountain had passed and his kin had been selling it off. 15ish year old me was walking the old logging road that separates the two (the road was on our side) dude comes literally running up the ridge yelling at me to get off his property. Threatening bodily harm and calling the law. Mind you to a confused as hell kid with a 12g...
But it turns out another parcel had been sold to someone else and their kids were tearing off down onto his property with atv's causing washes into his yard and leaving trash everywhere.
One group of idiots ruined the relationships of the owners of property in a huge area....
It's a danged shame but I fully agree. If it ain't yours. stay the hell out.
Property rights are an absolute.
Laughs in eminent domain
Protip: strip the bark off lightly with a draw knife before painting it purple.
On a day when I am grumpy (more often lately) I might be tempted to carry a can of spray paint in a contrasting color to spray over the purple squares.
I'm really trying to understand the sentiment here. You say you don't ignore other people's property rights, yet you find their property markers repugnant and would deface them? (Thereby, ignoring their property rights) You don't like purple? You prefer more traditional methods of delineation like barbed wire? You prefer the view of land as belonging to everyone and no one can own it?I do not ignore other people's property rights, but I do find the concept that purple paint is supposed to mean something to be highly repugnant.
YMMV and probably will.
That’s the way I’ve always looked at it. You own it, fine. You get permission, fine, treat it better than if you own it.
No permission, no own … don’t even think about it.
I'm really trying to understand the sentiment here. You say you don't ignore other people's property rights, yet you find their property markers repugnant and would deface them? (Thereby, ignoring their property rights) You don't like purple? You prefer more traditional methods of delineation like barbed wire? You prefer the view of land as belonging to everyone and no one can own it?
My comment was an inarticulate and tongue-in-cheek way of expressing that laws should be clear and readily known and understood by the population; obscure stuff like purple paint has no business being part of the law. Or, as you said, a more traditional method of property delineation is appropriate.
If somebody walks up to patch of woods and every 10th tree has a band of obnoxious purple paint on it and they don't question the significance of said markings, they probably shouldn't be outside in the first place.
Regardless of the paint color, you know when you're trespassing.
Stay off other people’s land you will have no issues.
Stay off land that is not your land unless you have permission. It is that simple.
If it isn’t your property stay the hell out.
Yes, you should easily know if you are not on your property. And as suck be aware what or who's property you are on.
This ^^^^^ is where it gets easy to understand in S.C....ALL private property is considered POSTED...No signage necessary. In S.C. the Law is simple....no written permission for where you are...You get a summons. Alot easier that way......A man told me....I didn't know this was Your land....I replied....You knew it wasn't Your land.Fields, farmland, property constrained by fences, but there's a veritable metric crapload of land out there that's not marked. And again, the courts have muddied the waters on absolute rights of non-owners using property.
My comment was an inarticulate and tongue-in-cheek way of expressing that laws should be clear and readily known and understood by the population; obscure stuff like purple paint has no business being part of the law. Or, as you said, a more traditional method of property delineation is appropriate.
Ok. Well, the purple paint thing is apparently relatively new in some areas. So, it will take a while too become public knowledge. It was new to me until last year. As a modest land owner, I was glad to find out about it. I can't afford the thousands of dollars to fence my property and there's been a serious problem with theft and vandalism in the area. Some people have used part of my property as a dump for refuse. The marking allows for some legal action, where there may be none if not marked. Or at least contestable. Some violators are hostile and I mean violently so. I think most don't post until there's a problem.I grew up near extensive experimental forested land where trees were marked with a variety of colored ribbons or paint to indicate different diseases, disease treatment, or cutting status. Before reading this thread, it would have never occurred to me to question why paint was on a tree and certainly not imagine that paint was a substitute for No Trespassing signs.
This ^^^^^ is where it gets easy to understand in S.C....ALL private property is considered POSTED...No signage necessary. In S.C. the Law is simple....no written permission for where you are...You get a summons. Alot easier that way......A man told me....I didn't know this was Your land....I replied....You knew it wasn't Your land.
I agree. Kids used to go all over others property and respected it and got permission first and everyone got to hunt and fish most everywhere. Now everyone wants to sue and has more rights on your property than you do so now things are crappy out of necessity. It sucks.
Now, THERE'S an idea, we can mark according to Cooper's color code!Going back at least fifty years in Montana, one color meant "OK, just be respectful, leave no trash, close gates behind you, etc", another color meant "No trespassing, expect to be arrested", and yet another meant: "better have said your goodbyes and have your affairs in order..."
Well, he doesn't have any trees to post on, duh! 🤪This thread is kind of funny to me. The guy who owns the property adjoining mine timbered his land a year ago. Took ALL the trees down on his land then had the nerve to cross onto my property and put signage up on MY trees stating No Trespassing…
Makes you wonder who raised these morons.This thread is kind of funny to me. The guy who owns the property adjoining mine timbered his land a year ago. Took ALL the trees down on his land then had the nerve to cross onto my property and put signage up on MY trees stating No Trespassing…
I think a bounty system should be enacted.A lot of you guys aren't going to want to hear this but what ruined it was Four-Wheelers. Their predecessor was a horse or a dirt bike (both of which take skill to ride) especially moving fast enough to disturb the ground beneath you. A four wheeler takes no skill to ride so any moron can do it, morons can't have any real fun unless they're spraying rooster tails everywhere they go (erosion problem) and morons can justify in their moron minds that leaving trash behind, cutting fences, tearing down signs is "morally just" ...and in general that property rights are "stupid". They're the most destructive trespassers since Sherman's Army.
Makes you wonder who raised these morons.
We just clear cut a 55 acre tract. We did exactly that.I wonder how old that boundary is. If it was a big enough tract to timber, it should likely have had a identifiable tree line right on the property line where birds used to sit on a fence and poop. Those trees should have stayed.
Our properties were divided by a 3 foot wide fire lane…. They cut all his stuff then crossed the fire lane to post on my property.I wonder how old that boundary is. If it was a big enough tract to timber, it should likely have had a identifiable tree line right on the property line where birds used to sit on a fence and poop. Those trees should have stayed.
To add to this, for those who "don't use technology"In this day and age of GPS on a phone, finding what you can and can't hunt is easy. If you don't us GPS, then you need to have land owner walk the line with you and make sure WHAT YOU CAN HUNT.
Knowing where you can hunt is no different that knowing when/ what/ how you can hunt.
If you don't understand this you are dumb, lazy or a thief.
Lowes in Asheville has a bunch, Krylon "No Hunting" Purple. Plan to get some as we had our SC property surveyed this week. It's just 2.3 acres but there's a lot of ATV use in the area.Just be aware that purple paint in spray cans is mighty scarce right now. All paint is empty shelf joe'd, but I've not seen purple anywhere. Lowes in Elkin had some weird tint of blue (as of today) that's kinda purple.
I can't speak for anywhere but my ao, about eye level, 2' in height, 360 degrees around the tree.Lowes in Asheville has a bunch, Krylon "No Hunting" Purple. Plan to get some as we had our SC property surveyed this week. It's just 2.3 acres but there's a lot of ATV use in the area.
Is there a particular pattern you're supposed to use? I saw mention of triangles, but all I have ever seen was a simple band painted around trees.
Lowes in Asheville has a bunch, Krylon "No Hunting" Purple. Plan to get some as we had our SC property surveyed this week. It's just 2.3 acres but there's a lot of ATV use in the area.
Is there a particular pattern you're supposed to use? I saw mention of triangles, but all I have ever seen was a simple band painted around trees.
Thank you just so I could like it again. Dam trespassers know exactly what they’re doing. In my deer hunting days it was all I could do to keep from shooting a few of em. And the repeat offenders needs shooting.Regardless of the paint color, you know when you're trespassing.
You certainly do know when you don’t have permission to hunt a property or you shouldn’t be hunting anywhere!But do you? Always? But yes, I agree that pain color is irrespective of the issue.