Skull-Stomping Sacred Cows: Reality Isn’t Nice. It’s a 2×4 to the Teeth.

[Lawless]

and it comes down to who is the best prepared and has the fortitude to act decisively and sustain a certain readiness level and do whatever it takes to win.

Well, that increases the odds brother, but a handful of average non-mil folks (even those that have had some training) against a far larger group is fuqd. You can do everything right and still be unlucky. Me? I want numbers. I wish i had 50-100 people who wanted to be serious. Instead I have a small tribe that will probably be wiped out by a battalion of hungry zombies.

 

[Dale Gribble]

I wish i had 50-100 people who wanted to be serious. Instead I have a small tribe that will probably be wiped out by a battalion of hungry zombies.

You should not underestimate the left, neither should you underestimate you and yours.

Don't get me wrong...ain't none of us Superman. We're all mortal, we all bleed, but it has been proven the human will to live/survive can be pretty damned strong.

 

[CZfool68]

Well, that increases the odds brother, but a handful of average non-mil folks (even those that have had some training) against a far larger group is fuqd. You can do everything right and still be unlucky. Me? I want numbers. I wish i had 50-100 people who wanted to be serious. Instead I have a small tribe that will probably be wiped out by a battalion of hungry zombies.

Right now my tribe is a lean mean 2. And honestly I am not as lean as I should be, so at least your tribe has nothing to fear from mine! But I gotta warn ya, we're scrappers.

 

[pirate]

I've been watching pirate 's posts here for over four years. The only way I'm getting within 1000 yards of his place when SHTF is if I have a donkey caravan loaded with silver and gold to offer as tribute.

.........how much for the little girl?


In all seriousness and all the keyboard Rambo crap out the door......you can be a real true bad ass but one lucky bullet shot by a 16 year old dip shit can end your story. None of us here is a Navy Seal but any of us can be as prepared as possible for events even though we may never be truly able to be adequately prepared. I do think law enforcement in general would side with "us" if the SHTF in a major civil free for all. Heck, yesterday the National Sheriffs Association with a group of Sheriffs from all across the nation meet with Trump and it was a true love fest. I think outside the liberal bastions this is the real way LEO's feel. Can the left do real damage sure they can but I still think the sleeping giant in this nation is on the right and when it awakens it will not be a good outcome for the leftest.

This was good to see. Listen for the comments from the Sheriff of Rockingham Co. NC. (15:45)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNxBMs8p1QE

 

[Chuckman]

Well, that increases the odds brother, but a handful of average non-mil folks (even those that have had some training) against a far larger group is fuqd. You can do everything right and still be unlucky. Me? I want numbers. I wish i had 50-100 people who wanted to be serious. Instead I have a small tribe that will probably be wiped out by a battalion of hungry zombies.

But here's the thing. Where is that "larger group?" If a crowd gathers to protest-turn-riot, they own that location. That was a planned location. If that crowd moves, they have the safety of the crowd, but momentum shifts just a bit. Maybe not 'shifts,' but slightly lessens. If a crowd is threatening your AO, you have homefield advantage, and it would only likely take a shot or two, and with the types of people who most consistently engage in crowd mentality, most will scatter. The ones who remain are the hard-core and those are the ones you need to be concerned about.

It all boils down to shoot move, communicate. Get inside their loop. And that can just be with a discussion across a table, or with a gunfight, the principles are the same.

 

[Lawless]

Chuckman I think we are talking about 2 different things.

 

[Chuckman]

Chuckman I think we are talking about 2 different things.

Yeah, maybe I misread or misunderstood. I was simply speaking to how the advantage changes when things are on your turf.

 

[JBoyette]

Most people that come to my classes never understood what they do not know. Nor do they understand how to deploy ones equipment to be lethal and tactful.

Not tactical but life saving tactful techniques.

Owning a gun, a BOB, GHB is just that owning one.

Shortly I will have a full schedule out till June for training like minded people.

 

[Climberman]

Most people that come to my classes never understood what they do not know. Nor do they understand how to deploy ones equipment to be lethal and tactful.

Not tactical but life saving tactful techniques.

Owning a gun, a BOB, GHB is just that owning one.

Shortly I will have a full schedule out till June for training like minded people.

I am looking forward to learning some of what I do not know on the 18th.

 

[Lawless]

Yeah, maybe I misread or misunderstood. I was simply speaking to how the advantage changes when things are on your turf.

Well, I simply meant that desire to win, training and your previously mentioned home field advantage only increases your odds a fraction. Better? Absolutely and I do everything I can to help to stack those grains of preparedness in my favor. But...

There is no way that we can take on even a numerically similar force and expect to dominate. Even if the weapons and training are in our favor the reality is that people on your side will die.

Whether we are talking a mob from an urban area sweeping toward your home, being caught up in an event while out with friends or facing a hungry group who smelled your roasting opossum at your retreat post SHTF, fights are not one sided and the good guys (whoever that is) don't always win.

We as the prepper/survivalist/realist community HAVE to get that even under the ideal we are going to face HORROR and BRUTALITY that we as modern Americans cannot begin to yet understand. A tiny minority of military and others have seen it, but even they have not lived it. We are simply not, nor can we be, ready because to be ready means to have experience.

We also HAVE to get the idea that the collectivist minded people will not stop, will not coexist and will not live and let live.
Stomping them out completely is the only real answer, and we are not even .1% ready to do that.

All of us are in deep normalcy bias, and those who say they are not are lying to themselves. Reality will be a cruel bitch when she finally arrives and I for one dread that hour like nothing else. The bravado of some (not necessarily anyone here) tells me that they are not anyone I want to be close to when that train pulls into the station.

The author of the article I posted is a SF veteran, has tons of experience and a career of being able to understand how insurgencies and indigenous people operate in civil conflict. I think he is spot on and I also think that the leftist agitators we are seeing now destroying colleges and burning businesses have already begun this war which we mostly think is off in the future.

The future is now.

 

[Chuckman]

Your post.....

I read your post a few times just so I could chew on it a bit. I think generally I agree with most of your assertions. Some I don't, but that's OK. Like you I think about how to offset mob mentality. I am in no way concerned about a throng of fill-in-the-blank coming to Casa de Chuckman, but do get concerned about what I will face when I am out. Given that when I am out with my family, I am always encountering groups who hold a numerical superiority. Knowing this, I seek to offset their advantage: frequent movement, looking at trends, PACE planning, etc. I think the best way in preparation is to "fight them where they are not" (props to Sun Tzu), which as the author would know, is a truism of counterinsurgency warfare.

I don't know that I agree with needing the experience to be ready. I have never been shot, but I do know what it does to one's body. But I fully agree with being as ready as you can reasonably be (and 'reasonably' is a moving target for people), and that most people aren't. I would also submit that some of the people who claim to be, especially in the whole tacticool crowd, are actually bigger targets than they imagine.

It is indeed an interesting study in people--on both ends of the spectrum.

 

[The Green Heron]

I'm way ready. I've watched all of Yeager's videos.