US appeals court upholds California bullet stamping law

The absurdity of this is the genius of the law. If you want to get rid of Anything just make it inoperable by outlawing something it needs to work, not the thing itself. It doesn't matter on whit that it is impossible to make the product do what the law says. I said 10 years, it's less. Sad.
I respect a gun hater more when he comes straight at you and says I want to do away with ALL guns. This backdoor bull shit makes me want to slap somebody...now!
 
SPM said:
Back when our ancestors were facing a rising tide of official actions against their Rights as Englishmen, they formed several associations, committees, and organizations throughout what was then the colonies of British North America.

The focus of the majority of these official actions was aimed squarely at Boston and the Massachusetts Bay colony, and had little or no direct effects on the Backcountry of the Carolinas, the ports of Wilmington or Charleston, he urban Williamsburg in Virginia, or the city of Savannah in Georgia. There were no troops in home in Pennsylvania, nor the port of Philadelphia shut down to trade.

And yet, they recognized that a threat to Liberty anywhere in the colonies was a direct threat to Liberty everywhere in the colonies.

Massachusetts' charter was evicerated - local self governance destroyed, general warrants issued - all kinds of things.

Is it really different than that which is happening in the Republic today?

One of the things done in response was a non-importation pact - essentially a boycott on steroids that around 30% of the population refused to do business with or purchase goods imported through Great Britain.

Could gun owners not do the same?

Refuse to buy firearms' from manufacturers that sell firearms, training, ammunition and adcesaccess to any agency operating in California.

Gun owners pressure their local FFLs to stop selling the products of manufacturers who do business with the State of California (or New York, or Massachusetts, etc) while their legislation makes overt and purposeful violations of the inalienable Rights of the People.

Would it suck?

Yeah, it probably would for a while. You Glocksuckers would probably have to stop buying Austrian plastic for a while and get a 1911 like both God and our Lord and Savior JMB intended.:D

But in all seriousness - we could do this, if we only had the will. Start it here in the Carolinas. State our intentions publicly, inform FFLs and manufacturers. Take a solemn Oath or Pledge to see it through, and have the werewithalll and courage to hold ourselves to it.

Then spread it to Virginia.

Georgia.

Florida, Maryland.

They did it with horses and printing presses and soldiers in the streets, in some cases.

We have instant communication, the ability to meet without leaving the house.

We, the People have far more power than most realize - if only we would weild it.
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Couple of possible paths. We could do as you suggest and boycott firearm companies that deal with California, that would pressure companies to pressure California to change its stance, I don’t think that likely to be effective. On the other hand we could boycott all products of California, that would more directly affect them.

Almonds are out.
TV, Movies, even most music is out.
Fruits and vegetables would need to be checked for source, probably easy for us to avoid, a lot harder as you move westward.
Maybe boycott all companies with a HQ in CA?
 
BatteryOaksBilly said:
The absurdity of this is the genius of the law. If you want to get rid of Anything just make it inoperable by outlawing something it needs to work, not the thing itself. It doesn't matter on whit that it is impossible to make the product do what the law says. I said 10 years, it's less. Sad.
I respect a gun hater more when he comes straight at you and says I want to do away with ALL guns. This backdoor bull shit makes me want to slap somebody...now!
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You are looking at this all wrong. These are not gun haters. Marxists love using the police and military for their purposes. History has proven this. Did Bill Clinton or Obama refrain from killing people or using the FBI to do their dirty work? They love their private armed bodyguards and secret service protection. When they 'protest' in the streets they are violent. Some of them even love their own guns. They just want the control of all firearms, and of course the use of violence. Remember a key tenet of communism...

Everything inside the system, nothing outside the system. It is about control and having you think and act as they wish. And if you won't they want the monopoly on force to do with you as they please.

Basically they are evil mo fo's.
 
CZfool68 said:
Some of them even love their own guns. They just want the control of all firearms, and of course the use of violence. Remember a key tenet of communism...
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There are some on this forum who get all giddy when government uses violence against people.
 
JimB said:
The economy of CA is big, like really big, and I presume that they believe that if they require this that manufacturers will find a way to comply rather than sacrifice the market. This is really no different than the state taking a leadership position on auto emissions.

Will it work, I don’t know, but I doubt it. If they put in a carrot, like saying they’ll allow carry of any such gun, then someone might find the market attractive.

As for implementing the technology, I can’t think of a solution that will work reliably. Maybe adding a stamping pin above the firing pin to hit the case head? Defeated by sanding or removing said stamping pin, but compliant at sale.
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No new semi auto pistols have been added to the California 'Safe Handgun Roster" for some time due to the requirement for micro-stamping. The manufacturers refuse to do it. CADOJ considers any cosmetic or design improvement change to a handgun to constitute a new model which requires micro-stamping. Thus the handguns available to the market is steadily shrinking. All Colt 1911s dropped off the roster as of January of this year.

The newest push by the Dems in California are 'firearms precursor parts' such as barrels, firing pins, bolts, etc which will be registered and controlled as equivalent to firearms. This is to prevent 80% firearms construction as well as circumventing the micro-stamping law.
 
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