What’s required?

DrPhudd said:
Long gun, verify they live in the same state as you and you have no reason to believe they are otherwise prohibited
Handgun, verify they live in the same state as you and have a valid PPP (NC) or a CHP
No paperwork is required. Anyone requiring any hates freedom
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If you wanna talk requirements…

There’s actually no requirement for you to verify they have a valid PPP or CHP. The law only says the buyer has to obtain one, so it’s on the buyer to be legal to purchase. 😎
 
Spellnc9 said:
What is a CHP? Sorry , never purchased private party before.
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Concealed handgun permit. In NC if you have one and buy from a dealer they don't have to do the background check so a lot of folks get it just for that. A lot of us like to do a bill of sale or some other transactional record (like a bill of sale) just in case the buyer turns out to be shady making it a bit easier to document where the gun went should it ever be traced but that's not required.
 

I have used this form. Do you “legally”. Need to do it? I am not a lawyer so I can not say. As a rational person I would say it is a good idea to have some sort of paper trail in case a firearm you are connected with ends up someplace it shouldn’t be.
Again, “you do you” but remember even if blameless a good lawyer costs $400/hr.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
I didn’t say it was required, I said it was a good idea.
Hopefully your written comprehension skills of law books is better than your written comprehension skills of forum posts!
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You posted a snippet from the Wake Co website that said (highlighted) it was a misdemeanor to sell a gun without obtaining a pistol permit from the recipient.

That’s nonsense.

That’s not a reading comprehension issue.


That is indeed true for an FFL, but not an individual.

Next time, quote the statute…not some liberal sheriff’s interpretation of the statute.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
I didn’t say it was required, I said it was a good idea.
Hopefully your written comprehension skills of law books is better than your written comprehension skills of forum posts!
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Un-wad your panties. Post true and lawful snippets. Not some of what you read from an entity that has no bearing of the law.

And just because you want to add non-required bs to your sales and purchases, don't throw that as truth and law to someone asking a legitimate question because they don't know.


He ask what's required, not what do you add to what the law states.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
www.wake.gov

Pistol Purchase Permits

Pistol Purchase Permits
www.wake.gov www.wake.gov

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This is not required under state law, is there a county ordinance? I will say that the highlighted text is confusing as it would make things like gun “buybacks“ or even turning over a firearm to a LEO a violation of whatever code they are referring to. It looks like an unsupported, and incorrect, conclusion, but if you think it’s right then please tell me why so I’ll know not to ignore it when in Wake county.
 
If your NC resident and not a felon your GTG. Anyone wanting anything else is making a registry that they would gladly hand over to da man.
The Gov loves people that will sell other law abiding citizens out. People that ask for more have a liberal streak through them. They believe the gun is the issues not the person using it.
 
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Majicmike said:
If your NC resident and not a felon your GTG. Anyone wanting anything else is making a registry that they would gladly hand over to da man.
The Gov loves people that will sell other law abiding citizens out. People that ask for more have a liberal streak through them. They believe the gun is the issues not the person using it.
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Personally I think people are free to make whatever stipulations in private transactions they wish to. If the buyer does not agree they don’t have to buy.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
Personally I think people are free to make whatever stipulations in private transactions they wish to. If the buyer does not agree they don’t have to buy.
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nobody here is going to disagree with that statement.
we will vehemently disagree with people posting, like you did, that there is some requirement to do more than is required.
and we'll say bad things about your character, often in the members-only BST thread. because we're free to do that just as you're free to set ridiculous restrictions on sales
 
DrScaryGuy said:
nobody here is going to disagree with that statement.
we will vehemently disagree with people posting, like you did, that there is some requirement to do more than is required.
and we'll say bad things about your character, often in the members-only BST thread. because we're free to do that just as you're free to set ridiculous restrictions on sales
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This was so much better said than what I had typed out.
Glad it popped up before I hit post lol
 
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The end of the PPP will cause some folks concern. We see plenty of example of folks requiring the buyer to have a PPP, even for a longgun purchase, they generally say that it helps them ensure that the buyer isn’t a bad guy. Will these folks refuse to sell other than through an FFL when the PPP goes away? Will they only sell to CHP holders? Will the value they realize in the sale go down because they’ve increased the administrative costs for the transaction? Will we see an increase in BOS requirements?
 
DrScaryGuy said:
we will vehemently disagree with people posting, like you did, that there is some requirement to do more than is required.
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I simply posted a screen shot and link to the wake.gov website (you know ACTUAL verifiable facts, not “that’s not what the law says” post from some internet expert “) . All my post illustrates is that Wake county website says it is a misdemeanor.
If you have any information to the contrary it would be helpful to all to post it along with links for us to review.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
If you have any information to the contrary it would be helpful to all to post it along with links for us to review.
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The law expressly states the buyer must obtain a PPP or have a CHP.
Nowhere in the law does it say the seller must collect the PPP from the buyer.
 

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keepcalmandcarryon said:
I simply posted a screen shot and link to the wake.gov website (you know ACTUAL verifiable facts, not “that’s not what the law says” post from some internet expert “) . All my post illustrates is that Wake county website says it is a misdemeanor.
If you have any information to the contrary it would be helpful to all to post it along with links for us to review.
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That screenshot from my county’s website is blatantly false on multiple levels.
What you posted is incorrect, and I have verified it, as have others here many times reading the actual NC statutes.
You should do likewise.
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
I simply posted a screen shot and link to the wake.gov website (you know ACTUAL verifiable facts, not “that’s not what the law says” post from some internet expert “) . All my post illustrates is that Wake county website says it is a misdemeanor.
If you have any information to the contrary it would be helpful to all to post it along with links for us to review.
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can you prove to me that green isn't vanilla?
 
keepcalmandcarryon said:
Personally I think people are free to make whatever stipulations in private transactions they wish to. If the buyer does not agree they don’t have to buy.
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Everyone on here agrees with your statement there 1000%. The guy asked what is required not our opinions of what is needed.
I have missed some great deals on here but only I do as the laws states. The seller has the right to require anything he wants, I also have the right not to deal with him. Same as many in here. Nothing personal, I won’t sell any firearm knowingly that the buyer likes Mayo.
That’s more of a issue to me.
 
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