Woman accompanied by child killed after opening fire inside famed pastor Joel Osteen's church

I saw an interview with the police chief about this on the local news just now. The suspect was “approximately” 30 to 35 years old; the child with her was “approximately” 5 to 6 years old. 🙄
 
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Button Pusher said:
Possibility child was shot by off duty officers.
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It looks like some of the articles are being updated, making it harder to separate early if-it-bleeds-it-leads stuff from edited and carefully reported stuff. (edit) dig for your archives now, because before long, only the "official story" will remain.

I'm not at all shocked though. Remember the pulse nightclub shooting? early on in the investigation the police said they believed some of the victims were probably shot by the police because they had to fire blindly through walls and such. a lot of those articles got scrubbed later on, in an effort to make the trained professionals look like they had done everything perfectly. Similarly, the mandalay bay started referring to the number of injured rather than the number of shot. much better story for the history books that way, and everything else goes down the memory hole.
 
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NCLivingBrit said:
The why attack Osteen? He's no more a Christian than I am.
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Low hanging fruit theory: dude promises wealth, happiness, and all that jazz but when mentally ill lady don't get it......
 
Exspiravit said:
I wonder if people in El Salvador consider themselves non-Hispanic?
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well, since both words in their friggin country name are hispanic...
it's possible the shooter was still more tied into indigenous heritage, but almost certainly would still be hispanic whether they identify that way or not.

In other news...
 
fishgutzy said:
(NYPD training budget was slashed under Bloomers. Bystander shootings by police went up steadily ever since.)
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I was thinking of this case
abcnews.go.com

NYPD Gunfire Wounded All 9 People Injured In Empire State Building Shootout

The New York Police Department confirmed that all nine people wounded in a shootout outside the Empire State Building were hit by police gunfire.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com
when i stumbled on this case
and this case
www.police1.com

Bystander dies after being shot by NYPD undercover officer

Officer opened fire on an armed suspect during an undercover gun buy that went bad
www.police1.com www.police1.com
and also this case
www.denver7.com

Denver police: Six bystanders injured after officers fired at man who flashed gun muzzle at them

Six bystanders were injured when three Denver police officers fired their weapons at a man the department says flashed a gun at officers early Sunday morning in downtown Denver.
www.denver7.com www.denver7.com
and now i'm thinking about starting a whole 'nother thread that some members will get touchy about
 
fishgutzy said:
Off duty cops. That explains the two innocent people shot. The cops have no fear of being charged. Mere mortal civilians train a lot more just to be sure that do not strike innocent people.
(NYPD training budget was slashed under Bloomers. Bystander shootings by police went up steadily ever since.)
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More likely cause are people are now trained to take videos when something happens rather than getting the heck out of there than police training or “cops have no fear of being charged nonsense “.
 
Woman accompanied by child killed after opening fire inside famed pastor Joel Osteen's church
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A more correct description would be:

Mentally-ill foreign criminal and terrorist supporter posing as a woman was killed while using a child as a human shield
 
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Goofyfoot2001 said:
He was 190lbs. If you're going to be trans then I think you really ought to have some friends let you know if you're good looking enough to lull it off. Nothing wrong with being trans if you're a looker!
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I think it was the other way around. Woman who wanted to be a "Jeff". The whole story is almost as confused as were/was.
 
News conference.
"She"
"She"
"She"...

Investigate!
Lift up the skirt!
Simple.
 
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