That is a bannable offense!
Woman shot in head on zoom call, by toddler
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Man, I have shot with many cops and veterans.
Like all people there are several types, as there is nothing that makes you special for signing up for the military.
Some of the worst gun safety, handling, and shooting I have seen has come from military (former and current) and Law Enforcement. The idea that being in the Army or working at the Sheriff’s office makes you an expert shooter…. or even barely competent is dumb. It’s a false notion. Doesn’t necessarily make you a bad shooter either.
That said, some of the best shooters I know are military, and cops, several being on this forum.
I bet they’d consider this Hit fella here barely competent. Some of them are champion shooters.
Saying “I used to carry a gun for a living” as some kind of badge of authority is like a pizza delivery boy claiming “I used to drive cars for a living”.
Both true statements. But neither indicates competence or expertise or the opposite.
Max Michel: he doesn’t CARRY a gun for a living. He SHOOTS guns for a living. Against other world champions.
Let’s hope they don’t let Max decide who is capable or not of having a gun. Hit might have to give his up!
Like all people there are several types, as there is nothing that makes you special for signing up for the military.
Some of the worst gun safety, handling, and shooting I have seen has come from military (former and current) and Law Enforcement. The idea that being in the Army or working at the Sheriff’s office makes you an expert shooter…. or even barely competent is dumb. It’s a false notion. Doesn’t necessarily make you a bad shooter either.
That said, some of the best shooters I know are military, and cops, several being on this forum.
I bet they’d consider this Hit fella here barely competent. Some of them are champion shooters.
Saying “I used to carry a gun for a living” as some kind of badge of authority is like a pizza delivery boy claiming “I used to drive cars for a living”.
Both true statements. But neither indicates competence or expertise or the opposite.
Max Michel: he doesn’t CARRY a gun for a living. He SHOOTS guns for a living. Against other world champions.
Let’s hope they don’t let Max decide who is capable or not of having a gun. Hit might have to give his up!
I just swiped “right” my friend!!
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And don't ask anyone else to pay for it.
Reminder: The liberal narrative is that no matter who pulled the trigger, it's the gun's fault... which means so-called 'gun violence' (to artificially inflate numbers with sad but perfectly legal suicides) always fits the liberal narrative.
I never cared for the idea of people with a self-awarded sense of superiority setting the bar for other people's rights. Sure, elitists love trying to dictate what peons can do, but I'll stand with the common man and universal rights, even if individual freedom is sometimes a scary proposition.
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you sound like a domestic terrorist
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Lol so much passive aggressiveness on this board.
That would be ideal. A way to make gun culture a part of American culture (again). I hear it used to be that way before my time with rifle teams in most school districts. With kids in NYC carrying their weapons to school with them on the subway. This of course cannot exist in the low trust society which we currently live in.
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I dont know why you are taking some guy sharing his opinion so personally. Like many things there are levels to this, I dont really consider guys who shoot paper targets in a controlled environment subject matter experts. I never said you had to be John Wick to own a firearm. I would just like to do away with the ignorance of people who do not respect the power they have in their hands when they pick up a gun and treat it like a toy.
Tell that to the guys missing limbs from Afghanistan as they watch "their country" spit in their face.... yet again.
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I wont derail the thread into a veterans issues one but I will just say you couldnt be more wrong and yes I would prefer valet parking.
You've made it abundantly clear what you want.
You want the government to decide who can and cannot possess firearms.
History has proven innumerable times that this leads to governments disarming their citizens and is invariably a bad idea for those same citizens.
Liberty, freedom, and rights come with very heavy responsibilities. Democide has proven that taking these responsibilities away from the citizens does not provide "safety".
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Who is going to pay for your "competence" training? The State, city or individual person that wants to own a gun for self protection? You don't believe for one minute that the anti gun side would vote for tax dollars to fund training for gun safety classes, do you? So, that will put the monetary burden on the individual. Now you are limiting the senior citizen on a fixed income and other poor folks that live in a bad neighborhood that want to protect themselves but they can't afford it. Sounds a lot like another Jim Crowe gun law? Also, are you going to tell folks what level of gun safe they must have in their home to keep their gun secure? Is the gov going to go door to door to make sure everyone is complying? We already have a law in NC that says you must keep guns secured in the home from minors. We know that that law only works for people with common sense because you just can't fix stupid.
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No I havent, I offered my view on a solution to yet another child shooting someone with a gun found in the home and it clearly ruffled some feathers. It is clearly on topic. I hate to break it to you, but the govt already decides who can and cannot own a firearm. Where in the 2nd amendment does it say that non violent felons cannot own a firearm? All of this don't tread on me nonsense is just peacocking and I am not one to larp.
No, you proposed a useless, and dangerous, "solution".
And I certainly have a beef with the government removing any rights which are not relevant to the crime dfor which a person is convicted. I also have a beef with the lack of restoration of rights after a person has paid their dues.
But that's a topic for another thread, and one I'm pretty sure I've participated in somewhere on this site.
Personally? Haha sure buddy. Great "argument".
Yes, there are levels. Max Michel is the very TOP level, and he shoots for the Army. You don't consider Max Michel a "subject matter expert" because you don't even know who he is, and likely have never shot a match, and are likely completely clueless as to what good shooting actually is.
Your comment about shooting paper exposes your ignorance, as everybody, including ARMY/LEO/SEAL/SF all practice shooting on the same thing Max Michel does: paper and steel targets on a range (one way). There is literally nobody who trains by shooting ACTUAL PEOPLE, and nobody trains with ACTUAL BULLETS being shot at them.
I guess all the SF guys that shoot 3gun and USPSA (there are literally packs of them locally as we live next to Bragg) are dummies and they need to come to you to get to that next level. Derp.
They shoot competition to get to the next level.
The point I was trying to make, that you seem to have missed: yes there are levels to this stuff and you are likely pretty close to the bottom level. Like most of us. Nobody said anything about John Wick (except you), a ridiculous comic book character from a movie.
Just a discussion, don't take it personal.
They get their cars impounded and their drivers license suspended.
LOL.... yes you did take it personally by resorting to lame insults and pretending you know my level. Oh wow, you saw an SF guy at the range? congrats. Thats pretty high speed. Youre so emotional that you have completely lost the plot and you cannot comprehend anything I am trying to convey. Also hate to break it to you, there is match shooting where you wear your 5.11's and ridiculous fishing vest and shoot when the buzzer sounds and then there is shooting, moving, and communicating. You know, levels.
The shit I see here 😁 😭😁😭😁😭........Have had exactly two Poleeeece through here that I would let walk Behind me.
These are called the LOOKATME_LOOKATME folks.
Whut dat larp means????
Just to add.....I always Hated the fact that I had to jump through hoops in 1976 to get a permit to carry...still do. What makes it More goofy is to have watched the "test" as it was dumbed down over the years.
From the start you shot a 50 round course from 3 yards to 50 yards. This was on a standard B27 target and was scored by Actual ring value.
Today out to 15 yards Max with a handful of ammo on a coke bottle target as big as a man and are only required to keep MOST of your rounds somewhere in the Black!
I despise being tested on a Right that I was Born with. Also, I have asked every CWP Instructor if they have EVER Failed Anybody...Anybody....their answers have always been no....never........So I guess in That light there really is No Test for your birth given right.......
I don't suppose "they" can make the "test" more difficult than local LEO yearly Quals......so EVERYBODY gets Dumbed Down.
I am for Constitutional Carry and will work towards that end as long as I am alive.
You missed this question.
Did they or do you have to get training to buy a car?
Do you believe there are some unsavory, or loose moral people driving around with a suspended license?
“I want to be able to effectively defend myself from a home invasion and be secure in my own dwelling.”
“Ok, so you need to get X amount of hours training, spend Y amount of dollars on a license, submit Z documents for approval. You will also need to wait while we compile our decision for this.”
At some point in life adults come to the realization that “I do not get to decide what you need.”
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“Ok, so you need to get X amount of hours training, spend Y amount of dollars on a license, submit Z documents for approval. You will also need to wait while we compile our decision for this.”
At some point in life adults come to the realization that “I do not get to decide what you need.”
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I was 17 and in bootcamp when I got my first rifle.
There are ppl who break the law and that should carry a much more severe penalty that what we currently have going. My points have been getting people better trained which has nothing to do with restricting rights.
It most certainly restricts rights. Don't you know that requiring ID to vote restricts voting rights? How does your call for more training not restrict rights? I got my first shotgun at 12. I had been hunting by myself for 5 years before you even laid a hand on a gun. I had been hunting and trained by my dad since I was about 8! How would you, at 17, have been any more safe than I was? And my dad was a certified marksman from WWII.
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This post is solid gold.
Yeah i saw "one SF guy" at the range. LMFAO. You go to a 3gun match here and it is DOMINATED by current and former military. It could be 50 IN ONE MATCH.
But you wouldn't know because you have never been to one.
I am going to go ahead and bet we don't ever see any of your HIGH LEVEL SUPER SPEED shooting.
Exactly!
There is not one new law that would make this any better... none, zilch, nada..
Your insecurity is quite palpable. I dont care about match shooting so I dont know why you keep bringing it up.
If that is the highlight of your shooting life then congrats I guess. I never once said someone needs to shoot a 2 in group to be able to purchase a weapon. I was only concerned about safety and responsibility.